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What kind of casual doesn't have a missile damage spreadsheet +  When you fly cancer legion ships (garmur orthrus yo) you need to know how your bang bang pointy sticks are gonna hit other dudes with tiny sigs and huge speed. Fairly sure DRF got changed recently, doubt it makes much difference. Aaaand on topic, basically only ever fire fury cruise/torp missiles at shield battleships and capitals.
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MorsAnima posted:What kind of casual doesn't have a missile damage spreadsheet The bad and dumb kind. Can i get a link to that (just to copy paste it)
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lol if you even need a spreadsheet its a simple formula [(target sig radius / explosion radius)*(explosion velocity / target speed)]^Z Z is the missile's damage reduction factor nigga crab pollock fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jul 21, 2016 |
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Jul 21, 2016 18:00
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MorsAnima posted:Aaaand on topic, basically only ever fire fury cruise/torp missiles at shield battleships and capitals. also same with rage hams except battlecruisers. you probably wont even get full damage on a brick tanked gila also uh whats up with the missile types, there are no precision hams or torps, they get javelin which is the same as t1 with worse damage values but better range
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nigga crab pollock posted:also same with rage hams except battlecruisers. you probably wont even get full damage on a brick tanked gila All the "short-range" missiles (rockets, hams, torps) get Rage and Javelin. All the "long-range" missiles (lmls, hmls, cruises) get Fury and Precision. nigga crab pollock posted:lol if you even need a spreadsheet its a simple formula Don't forget the clamp function. It's actually a piecewise equation in 3 dimensions  MorsAnima posted:Fairly sure DRF got changed recently, doubt it makes much difference. It's still around -- they just precalculated the logarithm part of it, so it's a simple fractional exponent, and made it a normal visible attribute.
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nigga crab pollock posted:lol if you even need a spreadsheet its a simple formula FranktheBank posted:I'm bad and dumb. I've tried to make it extremely clear in this thread that I'm an idiot and retarded and need stuff explained like I am 5.
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nigga crab pollock posted:lol if you even need a spreadsheet its a simple formula That's only the final option, it's a min(a,b,c) formula where that = c. FranktheBank posted:The bad and dumb kind. Can i get a link to that (just to copy paste it) 50m to Vindico Atris. ullerrm posted:
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Jul 21, 2016 19:01
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Skill injectors, activate remotely like plex or not?
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Jul 21, 2016 19:41
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MorsAnima posted:Skill injectors, activate remotely like plex or not? I don't think so but I've never tried so I'm probably wrong.
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MorsAnima posted:Skill injectors, activate remotely like plex or not? Yes, as long as neither you nor your injector are in a citadel
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Jul 21, 2016 19:59
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Yep worked fine. Leadership 1 to 5 gone in an instant, felt good. It's great how alts can afk rat plexes and multiple injectors per month. Training alts isn't such a time-chore now.
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Otacon posted:Yes, as long as neither you nor your injector are in a citadel so you can extract/inject in a citadel now, but you still can't do it remotely if a citadel is involved?
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Jazzzzz posted:so you can extract/inject in a citadel now, but you still can't do it remotely if a citadel is involved? I'll leave this question for someone who has actually logged in sometime in the past month. However, the way I thought it worked was that you can't use a citadel for ANYTHING related to injectors/extractors (remote or local) and that extractors can NOT be used remotely from anywhere.
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MorsAnima posted:Is it still variable per missile type? Must be? A single constant across all would have hosed up the damage formula. I think they just changed the internal function from x^(ln drf/ln y) to x^drf, and for each missile type drf was redefined to ln old_drf/ln y. Since y is a constant for all missile types (5 or something, I don't remember) the end result is unchanged. However you would see the new drf in SDE, pyfa, etc so they had to explain it.
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Morris posted:I think they just changed the internal function from x^(ln drf/ln y) to x^drf, and for each missile type drf was redefined to ln old_drf/ln y. Since y is a constant for all missile types (5 or something, I don't remember) the end result is unchanged. However you would see the new drf in SDE, pyfa, etc so they had to explain it. Correct. It's kinda like how the tracking equation didn't change, they just adjusted all target sig resolutions to 40km and then tweaked all turrets' tracking to match.
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why don't the missiles blow up in front of the ship, causing double the damage? or a better question, shouldn't the explosion be traveling at the same speed of the missile which is traveling at the same speed or greater to the target making velocity pointless? eve is really dumb
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Otacon posted:I'll leave this question for someone who has actually logged in sometime in the past month. However, the way I thought it worked was that you can't use a citadel for ANYTHING related to injectors/extractors (remote or local) and that extractors can NOT be used remotely from anywhere. they patched in using injectors/extractors in citadels a few weeks ago (can confirm it works) but I haven't tried remotely injecting, ever, so I don't know if that got fixed too avatarinwin posted:eve is really dumb
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I'm currently in an Astero on my exploration alt and enjoying it, the covert ops cloak makes getting back with the loot useful, and I've had one or two heartstopping scraps with other people in similar fits in relic sites etc. My question is: what comes next? Do I just perfect the skills for this ship or is there something that I should move up to? I know the Buzzard is well known for exploration, but it seems like with no guns/drones you're a sitting duck if someone finds you in a site. I'd kind of like to be able to fight the occasional solo-er I come across.
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avatarinwin posted:why don't the missiles blow up in front of the ship, causing double the damage? The best thing with a missile boat is to make people/npc chase you for maximum damage. NtotheTC posted:I'm currently in an Astero on my exploration alt and enjoying it, the covert ops cloak makes getting back with the loot useful, and I've had one or two heartstopping scraps with other people in similar fits in relic sites etc. My question is: what comes next? Do I just perfect the skills for this ship or is there something that I should move up to? I know the Buzzard is well known for exploration, but it seems like with no guns/drones you're a sitting duck if someone finds you in a site. I'd kind of like to be able to fight the occasional solo-er I come across. My opinion is that the astero is a great exploration or pick and choose pvp ship. The next step up is the stratios, it has a cov ops cloak and a huge amount of drone firepower. It suits long term exploration and hunting. Stealth bombers are good if you are just looking for fights. If you are happy moving away from cov ops cloaks t3 destroyers, faction cruisers and similar pvp ships fitted with a probe launcher are great for finding trouble or destroying explorers. Devian666 fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jul 21, 2016 |
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NtotheTC posted:I'm currently in an Astero on my exploration alt and enjoying it, the covert ops cloak makes getting back with the loot useful, and I've had one or two heartstopping scraps with other people in similar fits in relic sites etc. My question is: what comes next? Do I just perfect the skills for this ship or is there something that I should move up to? I know the Buzzard is well known for exploration, but it seems like with no guns/drones you're a sitting duck if someone finds you in a site. I'd kind of like to be able to fight the occasional solo-er I come across. Stratios and T3Cs are the next steps up. Generally you can deploy for longer and actually complete combat sites if you find them in these ships.
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Good grief I am awful at solo. So far I've traded 1 Tristan, 3 Incursus, 1 dual MASB Harpy, and 1 dual-prop Taranis for a single Incursus. Granted the Harpy and Taranis were insurance fraud yolos, but I should have taken someone with me in the Harpy. I was camping a conveniently abandoned MC drag bubble when the (entosis) Maller landed, so I started on him when the Corms landed ~15k away. I tried to burn over to them since the Maller and I were doing precisely dick to each other, but in the heat of the moment I forgot that the orbit/approach hotkeys work off the overview and not the selected target. So instead of zipping over to the Cormorants, getting under their guns, and melting them, I ended up orbiting the Maller at 500m with my MWD on, shooting Void at targets 15k away  This confused me, I lost track of my tank, and it was over.If anyone's willing to trade a pre-made ~honor
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Anyone want to send me a Recall offer? I've been out for 6-months. Looking over the offer it seems like a goon could get some cool stuff and I get 7-days to check stuff out and hopefully realize what a bad decision I'm making. Better than me just resubbing. I don't 100% promise I will resub. Send to "Chipaya" I used to play Eve under (Auktabe/Chipaya)
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somnolence posted:Stratios and T3Cs are the next steps up. Generally you can deploy for longer and actually complete combat sites if you find them in these ships. Do you know of a decent fit or a site for checking these out? I had an attempt at making my own, but with zero experience it has a tendency to get into autism-chariot territory very quickly. This is the one I'm least unhappy with: e: just realised I have zero idea what those combat sites require as well, so this probably won't work. code:NtotheTC fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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NtotheTC posted:Do you know of a decent fit or a site for checking these out? I had an attempt at making my own, but with zero experience it has a tendency to get into autism-chariot territory very quickly. This is the one I'm least unhappy with: Remember, there are now insanely expensive faction analyzer modules who combine both Relic and Data analyzing. So if you have the money, you have a free midslot now.
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Libluini posted:Remember, there are now insanely expensive faction analyzer modules who combine both Relic and Data analyzing. So if you have the money, you have a free midslot now. Yeah I was toying with those, but it bumps the price from 250m to 600m, and I'm not space-rich enough to fly something like that and not feel the loss. I enjoy getting into scraps because it helps me learn, so I'm probably going to lose ships at some point.
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Zephyrine posted:Redeemer or Panther? For what? Bridging or killing?
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Panther so you can roll two large smartbombs to frag pods and cynobombers.
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Rhymenoserous posted:For what? Bridging or killing? Killing. MacPac posted:Panther so you can roll two large smartbombs to frag pods and cynobombers. That sounds dangerously elite pvp.
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A redeemer can poo poo out over a thousand dps. A panther can have two heavy neuts, duel prop, a couple different options for scrams/webs, and a very respectable armor tank. Also, selectable damage types. Either choice is pretty prime in a group of blops, are you planning on going in a fleet or solo?
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Zephyrine posted:Redeemer or Panther? brb putting some guys in horde to awox your shinies
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I almost authed Catpiss Everdeen back in because some of you dummies have a bunch of HOMMAGE alts with similar spelling. That is all, have a great day. 
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doesnt someone not him own that character
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:doesnt someone not him own that character Yes he sold it. 
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Landsknecht posted:brb putting some guys in horde to awox your shinies Not muh shinies   Edit: actually you can have the jackdaws because I'm not very happy with those.
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NtotheTC posted:Do you know of a decent fit or a site for checking these out? I had an attempt at making my own, but with zero experience it has a tendency to get into autism-chariot territory very quickly. This is the one I'm least unhappy with: I can't comment on the fit, but I will say that data sites usually suck so you can either dump the data analyzer entirely or better yet carry a mobile depot so you can refit at a safe as needed. o.smium.org is a decent site for looking for fits but there are a ton of poo poo-fits out there (LOOK AT MY OFFICER FIT STRATIOS USING BLASTERS, GUYS)
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Zephyrine posted:Yes he sold it. He sold catpiss to buy one of my ratting alts so he could AFKtar his way to riches. Memories.
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Jazzzzz posted:I can't comment on the fit, but I will say that data sites usually suck so you can either dump the data analyzer entirely or better yet carry a mobile depot so you can refit at a safe as needed. o.smium.org is a decent site for looking for fits but there are a ton of poo poo-fits out there (LOOK AT MY OFFICER FIT STRATIOS USING BLASTERS, GUYS) The issue is I love the Sleeper Cache sites that use a data analyser as well as the relic, but they're rare enough that your idea of using a mobile depot makes a lot of sense so thanks I'll check that site out, and get a sanity check on anything before I decide to train into it
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