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Simulacra posted:Is ryu a wizard? he knows firebolt and fireball
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Insensitive posted:How on earth does Ryu only weigh 150lbs??? His arms probably weigh 50lbs each. Clearly it's his Fighting Street weight. 
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Jul 22, 2016 03:26
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Sagat's weight is still the best and stupidest
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Jul 22, 2016 03:36
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Simulacra posted:Is ryu a wizard? He's shootin fuckin fireballs out of his hands all day you tell me
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Dias posted:http://www.capcom-unity.com/haunts/blog/2016/07/21/juri-joins-the-street-fighter-v-roster capcom posted:What has Juri been up to since defeating Seth? Why is she back? Be sure to check out the free story DLC “A Shadow Falls” to find out! I dunno if I zoned out during the story mode but I feel like I don't have the answers to those questions, even though I played through it.
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Jul 22, 2016 03:42
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She was just taking a motorcycle ride around the planet and happened to run into some of her buds.
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maybe this exposes me as a person who Doesn't Play This Game, but after really trying to learn guilty gear, I just cant come back to this. It feels insanely incomplete, and not just in relation to GG. So many random fightcade games feel better as well. This and USFIV were good gateway drugs, but I just cant bring myself to play a worse game.
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Jul 22, 2016 04:37
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Booyah- posted:maybe this exposes me as a person who Doesn't Play This Game, but after really trying to learn guilty gear, I just cant come back to this. It feels insanely incomplete, and not just in relation to GG. So many random fightcade games feel better as well. This and USFIV were good gateway drugs, but I just cant bring myself to play a worse game. Maybe you will be the chosen one then, the one who learns to stop playing a game you burn your free time on if you don't like it.
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Jul 22, 2016 04:45
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The Gorp posted:I can't place my finger on exactly why it is, but the longer the game is out the more I feel like SFV was trying to get the MOBA audience. A friend of mine who doesn't play fighting games tuned into Evo and was asking me about the different "heroes" lol.
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Jul 22, 2016 04:46
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Booyah- posted:maybe this exposes me as a person who Doesn't Play This Game, but after really trying to learn guilty gear, I just cant come back to this. It feels insanely incomplete, and not just in relation to GG. So many random fightcade games feel better as well. This and USFIV were good gateway drugs, but I just cant bring myself to play a worse game. gonna break this down. Doesn't play sfv - good trying to leard xrd - great fightcade - excellent Booyah is a good name for you
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Jul 22, 2016 04:47
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Evil Canadian posted:Maybe you will be the chosen one then, the one who learns to stop playing a game you burn your free time on if you don't like it. i already dont play the game you loving idiot
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Jul 22, 2016 05:03
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Booyah- posted:i already dont play the game you loving idiot I could be wrong but I think he was praising you.
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Jul 22, 2016 05:05
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Golden Battler posted:I could be wrong but I think he was praising you. ok sure. theres just a lot of WHY CRITICIZE THE GAME IF YOU DONT EVEN PLAY IT in this thread so I may be hyper-sensitive
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Jul 22, 2016 05:09
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I don't necessarily care for those who go crazy on the negativity, but those who hate the game vehemently while still playing it are out and out mentally ill, so good job not being one of those 
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Jul 22, 2016 05:17
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Evil Canadian posted:I don't necessarily care for those who go crazy on the negativity, but those who hate the game vehemently while still playing it are out and out mentally ill, so good job not being one of those I agree
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Jul 22, 2016 05:18
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Evil Canadian posted:I don't necessarily care for those who go crazy on the negativity, but those who hate the game vehemently while still playing it are out and out mentally ill, so good job not being one of those But does criticizing it for its flaws but still liking it and playing it make one also out and out mentally ill? Or only half? A quarter?
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Jul 22, 2016 05:40
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:But does criticizing it for its flaws but still liking it and playing it make one also out and out mentally ill? Or only half? A quarter? It makes you totally fine
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Jul 22, 2016 05:44
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:But does criticizing it for its flaws but still liking it and playing it make one also out and out mentally ill? Or only half? A quarter? can you honestly say that everything you like and enjoy is completely perfect and flawless? complaining about the problems that exist in a patchable game or in an influential game that stands to change how new games are made is not only fine but necessary if you truly enjoy the game or genre in general.
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Evil Canadian posted:Maybe you will be the chosen one then, the one who learns to stop playing a game you burn your free time on if you don't like it. goddamn this one hits close to home
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Jul 22, 2016 06:29
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Zand posted:can you honestly say that everything you like and enjoy is completely perfect and flawless? complaining about the problems that exist in a patchable game or in an influential game that stands to change how new games are made is not only fine but necessary if you truly enjoy the game or genre in general. 
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Jul 22, 2016 08:49
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Booyah- posted:ok sure. theres just a lot of WHY CRITICIZE THE GAME IF YOU DONT EVEN PLAY IT in this thread so I may be hyper-sensitive I thought I had seen a similar misinterpretation earlier in the thread. Made me think that, perhaps, the vitriol being thrown around in the thread has reached such a sustained point, that the lines between slights and praises are beginning to blur. But the last 5 pages didn't seem too abnormal, so, eh.
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Lothire posted:I thought I had seen a similar misinterpretation earlier in the thread. Made me think that, perhaps, the vitriol being thrown around in the thread has reached such a sustained point, that the lines between slights and praises are beginning to blur. Only way to find out is fightcade tourny. And the guy doing it's: set date and time
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I still find it impossible to reliably tech throws or block cross ups from half the cast yet I enjoy this game. Sat there for an hour at my locals getting bodied (I took one round off him playing sim) by some guy playing random select despite trying pretty hard to learn what I'm supposed to be doing. A lot of the criticism in this thread seems to be to make it more like this game or that game, but they are all unplayable to a scrub like me. I've tried every 2D fighter released since marvel vanilla and with the exception of marvel of all things for some reason they are all impenetrable. A lot of the changes in SFV are clearly aimed at people like me who want to play but find most fighting games too obtuse. So if you are actually wanting to criticise the game for the choices, it probably should take into account what they were trying to do and not what you want them to do. Or whatever fingerpuzzles/kappa twitch chat meme you want to go with.
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Fellblade posted:I still find it impossible to reliably tech throws or block cross ups from half the cast yet I enjoy this game. Sat there for an hour at my locals getting bodied (I took one round off him playing sim) by some guy playing random select despite trying pretty hard to learn what I'm supposed to be doing. Maybe stop making grand judgments about the entire history of fighting games when the entire reason you like sf5 is because you're permanently too poo poo for anything else. And I have to say I'm suspecting youre poo poo at 5 too. Finger puzzles (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jul 22, 2016 10:26
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i would criticize more in detail but that post is so loving stupid its like unwrapping a pompous orange
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Jul 22, 2016 10:32
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I am too poo poo and the game is made for people too poo poo! E: also grand judgements about the history of fighting games lol
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Jul 22, 2016 10:47
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i really want to setup fightcade on my arcade cab but i can't be assed to someday
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Jul 22, 2016 11:08
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dangerdoom volvo posted:i would criticize more in detail but that post is so loving stupid its like unwrapping a pompous orange You need counselling.
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Jul 22, 2016 11:17
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I get what I'm meant to do in fighting games and have a head for anticipating what other people will do, but my execution has always been dogshit and I have old man reactions now. The only game I've ever been good at is Melee (and maybe Soul Calibur 2) because I picked Peach and was able to bypass all the execution in that game and rely on knowing how my opponents would act. The issue is that makes this a problem I'm a competitive person so I want to play to a standard that I feel is acceptable. So in Marvel an acceptable standard would be to master an OTG combo for all three of my characters. So I would spend months in the lab trying to get this down and just couldn't do it which made actually playing the game feel like a chore, even if I was improving. This means I end up enjoying SF more than I do GG or Marvel because the execution floor is a lot lower and I can play to the standard I want to. (Perhaps unsurprisingly I play Laura in V) Whilst I accept that SFV is a bad game, it is fundamentally always going to be more fun for me than better games because it's much more suited to my style of play. It's just sad that Capcom shat the bed so badly and there isn't something in SFV's style that I can play.
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Jul 22, 2016 11:26
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Mega Comrade posted:You need counselling. probably but pointing out dumb posts is not the reason
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dangerdoom volvo posted:probably but pointing out dumb posts is not the reason The first step is to admit you're in denial.
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I hate V less than IV because I don't have to hit one frame links to do basic combos.
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Fellblade posted:A lot of the changes in SFV are clearly aimed at people like me who want to play but find most fighting games too obtuse. So if you are actually wanting to criticise the game for the choices, it probably should take into account what they were trying to do and not what you want them to do. Can you cite some of these changes and how they made the game easier for you to understand? I will grant that control has been made easier (at least combos and stuff like vskill/vtrigger being designed for casuals and pad players) but I don't think SF5 actually made the genre easier to understand or get into. There's a lot of dressing and balance changes to make new players perceive the game better but I don't think it actually serves the end goal. I'd also take issue with defending SFV as a product for a casual and beginner audience, when the Capcom Pro Tour is a thing and keeping its schedule was more important than releasing a finished game. Edit: SFV was definitely made for a casual audience, I just don't think it actually teaches them about fighting games better than any other game, esp with such poo poo tutorials. Ixiggle fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Yorkshire Tea posted:So in Marvel an acceptable standard would be to master an OTG combo for all three of my characters. So I would spend months in the lab trying to get this down and just couldn't do it
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A.o.D. posted:I hate V less than IV because I don't have to hit one frame links to do basic combos. How many characters really needed 1-frame links, like two? Out of 44.
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Jack Trades posted:How many characters really needed 1-frame links, like two? Out of 44. Yeah. lIke two characters. Fei and Rose come to mind. Plinking made 1-frame links super easy anyway. Even unplinkable ones weren't that hard with some practice. If anything the SJC's with Viper were way harder than links. Partial Octopus fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Partial Octopus posted:Yeah. lIke two characters. Fei and Rose come to mind. Plinking made 1-frame links super easy anyway. Even unplinkable ones weren't that hard with some practice. Bison had a pretty important one too
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Isn't Rufus st.LK to st.HP a 1f link? I remember it being somewhat infamous
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ADTerminal posted:Isn't Rufus st.LK to st.HP a 1f link? I remember it being somewhat infamous It is, and it's quite important for him.
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