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Sagebrush posted:That baby 787 is a LeMons car? Isn't anyone supposed to be able to buy them for 500 bucks? Not anyone, only the event organizers. Rule is in place to stop people pulling bullshit like the "$500" V12 mercedes - http://jalopnik.com/5410613/for-the-first-time-chief-perp-lamm-claims-a-lemons-car-for-500-bucks
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Still, 500 dollars seems like total bullshit for that thing. They might have only spent that much on new parts, but it's got thousands of dollars of professional labor (e.g. the paint job and custom bodywork) in it. Though I suppose that stuff doesn't really affect the race standings, so it's still kind of in the spirit of the thing. Eh. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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If you do it yourself it doesn't count towards the $500. Anything you sell off the car subtracts from what you spend.
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Sagebrush posted:Still, 500 dollars seems like total bullshit for that thing. They might have only spent that much on new parts, but it's got thousands of dollars of professional labor (e.g. the paint job and custom bodywork) in it. The rules of LeMons is that there are no rules. It's supposed to be a goofy and casual race series where any rule that doesn't have to do with safety is easily pliable by buddying up to the judges with beer and other assorted bribes, or bypassing them entirely by doing something so completely ludicrous and stupid as a radial engined MR2. And even if you do fall afoul of the rules, you still can race. You just get penalty laps. Plus, safety equipment like fuel cells, a roll cage, seat + harness etc are not counted towards the $500 total, and you can make money back by selling off anything that came off the car.
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mekilljoydammit posted:That's what I mean, I thought it was just used as an air supply to the engine itself. Hard to say without going over the car though. If you can decipher those engine photos I posted, the answer is probably in there.
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Sagebrush posted:That baby 787 is a LeMons car? Isn't anyone supposed to be able to buy them for 500 bucks? Yeah, I was scratching my head when I got to the loving Hudson.
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ishikabibble posted:The rules of LeMons is that there are no rules. It's supposed to be a goofy and casual race series where any rule that doesn't have to do with safety is easily pliable by buddying up to the judges with beer and other assorted bribes, or bypassing them entirely by doing something so completely ludicrous and stupid as a radial engined MR2. And even if you do fall afoul of the rules, you still can race. You just get penalty laps. I hate lemons for that reason. It ends up being a popularity contest with the judges, rather than a competition to build the fastest car possible within the budget. It rewards ~~omg wacky~~ and penalizes competitiveness.
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That's fine, "competitiveness" ruins every other sport eventually so at least there's something different out there for people that just want to have a friendly race weekend.
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Given that the entire point of LeMons is that it's not actually about winning the race, it's about seeing if your magnificently ragegineered hooptie spends more time on track than not (And most importantly about, you know, having fun) I don't think it's really a problem. Anyone who goes into LeMons trying to build the perfect vehicle to win the race is doing it wrong 
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Raluek posted:I hate lemons for that reason. It ends up being a popularity contest with the judges, rather than a competition to build the fastest car possible within the budget. It rewards ~~omg wacky~~ and penalizes competitiveness. That seems to be what chumpcar is for. But way to hate fun.
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Casual Racing Society seem to have it nailedquote:The Casual Racing Society might be the very team that embodies LeMons attitude. Their window-louvered Ford Capri looks great from about 60 feet away and their themes are always pretty high-minded and bizarre, like Mad Maxel Tov (Think Road Warrior with Orthodox Jews), Dungeons and Dragsters, Starsky and the Bandit, Beevil Mnievil, and of course Buck Yeager and the Casual Sound Barrier Society. More importantly, they have little-to-no interest in “competing” or “racing” or “having a car that runs.” Rather, they enjoy the social atmosphere and will take the occasional turn around the racetrack. It’s not unusual to find them sitting in street clothes in their paddock space next to their Capri (which they recently replaced after a foray in that pesky “racing” business ended poorly for the first car) with nothing wrong with the car other than the fact that they were hungry and they happened to have some sandwiches that needed eating and the race will be fine without them for an hour while they soak in some rays so have a seat and talk about anything other than the terrible racket coming from that BMW that’s on fire over there.
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iwentdoodie posted:That seems to be what chumpcar is for. No, Chumpcar was half full of people trying to race shitheap rust buckets that give you tetanus as soon as you look at them, plus the stupid parade float rubbish from Lemons, and a rulebook that was 56" thick. WRL is for people who just want to race (and hopefully win).
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Raluek posted:I hate lemons for that reason. It [...] penalizes competitiveness.
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Collateral Damage posted:Nobody gives a hoot about who "wins" in LeMons. It's not the point of it. It's about getting together with other gearheads and doing something silly on a track. The $500 rule is mainly there as a fail-safe against people starting to take it seriously. It's basically automotive burning man. That was the point when we all started it at Altamont. Hell, in the beginning we didn't even have to have full roll cages - just hoops and open face helmets were good enough. I can't wait to finish being back in college so I can get back into wacky racing.
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 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_ajcKhHLjU
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scuz posted:
 
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I wore my Bad Obsession t-shirt today, because it is Binky day. 
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HandlingByJebus posted:I wore my Bad Obsession t-shirt today, because it is Binky day. It's a glorious holiday that comes but twice a year, but is made more magical by its unpredictable nature and whimsical energy
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"So I guess that brings us to the fairly obvious solution of aluminum. But instead, we're going to use aluminium, because that's what it's called."
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The Door Frame posted:It's a glorious holiday that comes but twice a year, but is made more magical by its unpredictable nature and whimsical energy 4 times a year
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Raluek posted:I hate lemons for that reason. It ends up being a popularity contest with the judges, rather than a competition to build the fastest car possible within the budget. It rewards ~~omg wacky~~ and penalizes competitiveness. Are you for real? lmao
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Canada has the micra cup, with a $20,000 race car with actual racing, and people can't just throw extra money at it and win. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJkmAFi0nI4 it's pretty metal sometimes.
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Actually the best event in Canada is that annual race in a corn field that someone linked a ways back. Invite only, just a bunch of jokers that show up and thrash the wheels off their beaters.
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If you're not able to cheat by loving around with the mechanicals, where's the fun in that? The real winner is whoever directly causes a new or rewritten rule to be put in for next season.
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InitialDave posted:The real winner is whoever directly causes a new or rewritten rule to be put in for next season.
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Delivery McGee posted:They should get a trophy named after Smokey Yunick.
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scuz posted:
Pure pornography
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InitialDave posted:The real winner is whoever directly causes a new or rewritten rule to be put in for next season. Delivery McGee posted:They should get a trophy named after Smokey Yunick. InitialDave posted:You have to give it back at the end of the year with something added to it, but which no-one can spot you've done. This is all very good.
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InitialDave posted:You have to give it back at the end of the year with something added to it, but which no-one can spot you've done. Each successive winner gets a trophy 7/8 the size of the winner before.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/triggerscarstuff/albums This guy's got some interesting old road tests if that's your thing, well worth a look.
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Gay Nudist Dad posted:Each successive winner gets a trophy 7/8 the size of the winner before. this is actually a myth 
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Powershift posted:Canada has the micra cup, with a $20,000 race car with actual racing, and people can't just throw extra money at it and win. That's some pretty good swerving around the chaos
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http://i.imgur.com/PsHy8Kl.gifv
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VikingSkull posted:this is actually a myth Fine they shave off inside the base of the statue and fill it with ball bearings.
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VikingSkull posted:this is actually a myth Each winner gets a trophy progressively re-proportioned and shifted slightly off-center to optimize aerodynamics.
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VikingSkull posted:this is actually a myth shhh it's okay i know
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 more here
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I'm sorry guys, Smokey untruths trigger me It was the truck arm rear suspension that made the Chevelle fast
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This makes me happy.
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