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Thom12255 posted:It makes me think that CBS is giving them barely any money to do anything. I've assumed this to be the case ever since it was announced to be exclusive to All Access.
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Jul 23, 2016 23:21
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Pakled posted:Apparently there was a teaser trailer, at least. Looks like it's already on youtube. Yeah that looks like something a fan would have whipped up and posted to scifimeshes.com circa 2003. Completely underwhelming and fugly looking at that.
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Jul 23, 2016 23:21
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Gnome de plume posted:The drive section with the large wing-like pylons makes it look like a TOS Klingon warship. I thought it looked pretty Klingon too. Maybe a Federation ship run by Klingons. And still, nobody will invite Michael Dorn in to #BringBackWorf
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Jul 23, 2016 23:22
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Thom12255 posted:Literally the ugliest ship. It has a solidity and seriousness that I find oddly appealing, but it doesn't feel like a proper Starfleet design. More like a Maquis kitbash. I mean, they're saying all the right things, but that ship design. I'm just like "That's what you went with? Really?"
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HD DAD posted:So any speculation on a time period? Almost looks post-ENT yet still pre-TOS. 1031 is a pretty low number, so if that has any particular bearing on when this ship launched then somewhere between ENT and TOS would make sense, yeah. It could even be close to Axanar's time period which is funny to me for some reason.
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Jul 23, 2016 23:23
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Thom12255 posted:It makes me think that CBS is giving them barely any money to do anything. After fronting all the money for the TNG Blurays it was bound to be fairly tight but yeesh that does not looks good. And I say this after having lowered expectations about Beyond and ending up liking it the best of the 3 new movies.
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Yeah I mean it's nice to go back to old concept art for inspiration but sometimes that poo poo was rejected for a reason, yo
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Maybe they can get Andy Probert on the phone and have him whip something up to salvage that ... that thing.
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Jul 23, 2016 23:26
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That ship is hideous and the music is ridiculous.
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Jul 23, 2016 23:27
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It looks like it should be hauling garbage.
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It's interesting how it's deploying from an asteroid base, too.
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Evek posted:It should be hauled away AS garbage. FTFY
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Jul 23, 2016 23:28
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I can't get over how ugly the ship is. How do you mess up so bad. The teaser is terrible. Bad music, terrible graphics, doesn't tell you a thing about the show but shows you a ship no one would ever want to fly or own. You can't attract an audience with stuff like this. Why did they make this?
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Jul 23, 2016 23:29
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You know you have a problem when the Axanar stuff looks more professional than the stuff by the network. That's not something you should be showing that early, if it's indeed just test CGI or whatever. The design is garbage too....and it seems clear there is some kind of Klingon influence. Parts of that music remind me of the Klingon themes from TNG.
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I'm still stunned there weren't any casting announcements. They've got to start shooting in, like, six weeks at the latest to make their premiere date.
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It's not clear that there's any Klingon influence, or whatever the hell people are saying. It does appear to be inspired by the Ralph McQuarrie design, for some reason I cannot fathom. Really amateurish CGI too. No idea what they're thinking with that, but bad CGI doesn't necessarily mean bad acting, writing, or direction (though in B5 it certainly did...)
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Pakled posted:Apparently there was a teaser trailer, at least. Looks like it's already on youtube. I'm in the mood to play roulette for some reason.
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I think they said it was test footage, which makes more sense. The CGI is one of the last things they would be doing.
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That Planet of the Titans concept is one of the few McQuarrie concepts I outright hate and I can't believe they used it for the new show. I mean goddamn, what a loving horrendous looking ship. And another loving pre-TOS show from the looks of it. You'd think the anniversary would be a perfect opportunity to push the series forward, but what do I know? Between this, no casting info, and Fuller listing Janeway as his favorite captain, my enthusiasm for the new show has dwindled to almost nothing.
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Jul 23, 2016 23:36
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I came out of Star Trek Beyond today feeling super hopeful that Star Trek was finally getting back into the swing of things and this panel has put so much doubt on it. At least we get another JJTrek movie?
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FlamingLiberal posted:I think they said it was test footage, which makes more sense. The CGI is one of the last things they would be doing. Yeah, but even for test footage that was rough. If all you've got is 90 seconds of garbage, don't show the garbage, just announce the title and logo and be done with it.
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WickedHate posted:It's very Starfleet to design something with the intention of being a "true front line heavy cruiser" and calling it Ambassador. "Front line heavy cruiser" means nothing in any historical context. These website guys are totally making things up.
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Jul 23, 2016 23:43
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Since it looks like TOS or pre-TOS I'm hoping it's just another flat-out different timeline, without any time travel stuff to try and explain. Just say you're doing you're own new version of Star Trek, own your own vision of the future, and be done with it.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Since it looks like TOS or pre-TOS I'm hoping it's just another flat-out different timeline, without any time travel stuff to try and explain. Just say you're doing you're own new version of Star Trek, own your own vision of the future, and be done with it. https://twitter.com/adambvary/status/756981563699503104 Confirmed for Prime Universe.
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Arglebargle III posted:"Front line heavy cruiser" means nothing in any historical context. These website guys are totally making things up. I believe the Ambassador class is referred to as a heavy cruiser in Conspiracy.
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Mister Kingdom posted:I'm in the mood to play roulette for some reason. Dabo!
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Trickjaw posted:Dabo! Pfft, Dabo is a child's game. Tongo is where it's at.
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Still better than this dogshit MikeJF posted:I want a Trek where Deck 9 section 3 is vapour sulphuric acid atmosphere and section 5 is 400 degrees and deck 10 and 11 starboard are entirely submerged and etc Sector General TV show, got it.
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Thom12255 posted:https://twitter.com/adambvary/status/756981563699503104 Aw, man. Seriously, though, in my opinion I'm hungry for a Star Trek that does that TOS and TNG did in the sense of taking the science we know now and imagining where it could go. A vision of the future relevant to today's audience. It seems like at some point you have to let go of cannon that started fifty years ago in order to do that.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Fuller listing Janeway as his favorite captain, my enthusiasm for the new show has dwindled to almost nothing. That IS worrying.
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He said he had a soft spot for Kate Mulgrew. Not surprising really considering Voyager was one of his first writing gigs.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:That IS worrying. Well, he was the story editor and a producer on Voyager's final four seasons...
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I just got out of Star Trek Beyond. It is the best Trek movie since the Undiscovered Country. Hell, this movie blows Star Wars: the Force Awakens out of the water. It more than makes up for the shitshow that was Into Darkness.I think JJ Trek must be the mirror universe because the odd numbered movies are good and the even ones are bad and not the other way around. Oh, and this movie actually felt like Star Trek. They didn't beat the bad guys by shooting a lot of guns at them, they did something clever instead. And... wow. drat. I just got outta the movie and saw the footage for Star Trek: Discovery. That might be the fastest buzzkill I've ever had in history.
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As I was watching that video I seriously thought someone was taking the piss on me. "Oh, ha ha, someone's taken some cheapshit fan render of the old McQuarrie concept and made a fake link to it on SA, what a laugh..." I feel like someone was all "hey let's make the bottom section an arrowhead. Get it? GET IT??!" Man, just... nobody involved in Star Trek has any sense of "too much" any more, do they? It's like that stupid loving fan render someone posted a thread or two of the Enterprise under construction, and "NCC-1701" was splashed in huge letters across the hull like five different times.
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Thom12255 posted:They've taken it down? Yeah, it's 'not available' on the Trek YouTube page. I think they maybe misjudged what the response would be, and were like "SDCC footage! This'll get the nerds buzzing!" and then everyone hated it. Plus that does look just outright ripped from that concept. It's not hard to make a Starfleet ship. Little rectangle, 1-4 big cylinders and a saucer. Slap em together however you want and it'll probably look passable with enough time spent touching it up.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Aw, man. Beyond kinda started looking a little like that, actually. But otherwise, if you want that, you have to go to print SF.
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