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goddamnedtwisto posted:Currently reselection is only on the table in the event of boundary changes Trigger ballots before elections give unions a lot of power over this, don't they? e: ooer. 1320, Bernard of Kilwinning assures a European potentate that Scots have no truck with the pesky English and should not be excommunicated. Oh dear me fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jul 24, 2016 |
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Guys guys guys. Shut the gently caress up Robot Wars is on tonight.
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Jul 24, 2016 16:25
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kustomkarkommando posted:Also Paddy Ashdown's thingy launched today I've seen worse. At least these guys aren't saying they'll use the power of the blockchain to modernise politics. 
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Jul 24, 2016 16:30
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What exactly a "Trigger ballot" is is'nt actually defined anywhere in Labour's legal documents or paperwork anywhere, so no-one is actually sure what that process is. It might just be a vote in the CLP (which is good for those CLP's whose membership wants to throw out their MP: eg Eagle)
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Jul 24, 2016 16:35
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kustomkarkommando posted:Also Paddy Ashdown's thingy launched today I promise to provide every NHS hospital with modern efficient gallows to hang sick people back to full health. WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I've seen worse.
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Jul 24, 2016 16:43
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nothing to seehere posted:What exactly a "Trigger ballot" is is'nt actually defined anywhere in Labour's legal documents or paperwork anywhere, so no-one is actually sure what that process is. It might just be a vote in the CLP (which is good for those CLP's whose membership wants to throw out their MP: eg Eagle) I'm starting to think the Labour party doesn't really exist and it's actually some kind of mass delusion
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Jul 24, 2016 16:47
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baka kaba posted:I'm starting to think the Labour party doesn't really exist and it's actually some kind of mass delusion
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Jul 24, 2016 16:51
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Extreme0 posted:Guys guys guys. Get fookin' in 
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Jul 24, 2016 16:53
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...h-a7152106.htmlquote:Theresa May will reportedly replace some of the artwork hanging in Downing Street with framed quotations of the speech she made upon becoming Prime Minister. lol
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Jul 24, 2016 17:05
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https://twitter.com/MrMarkHayford/status/757188972225425408
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Jul 24, 2016 17:08
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ThomasPaine posted:Authoritarianism isn't tied to left or right. May is super authoritarian but there are people to the right of her politically. if we're discussing economic policy then anyone to the right of mass redistribution of wealth is objectively wrong about how the world works anyway, so given the entire tory party/plp siding labour are either sociopathic or deluded I can't see why using the classical french definition has any value at all
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Jul 24, 2016 17:11
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Jul 24, 2016 17:17
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been trying to make an analog to May in a US politician but i never thought it would be Ben Carson
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Jul 24, 2016 17:18
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Angepain posted:well with a theoretical non-lovely PLP there might be someone worthwhile to replace him, so I'm okay with this actually, out of the Labour MEPs soon to be looking for a new job are many on Team Corbyn? they could run as MPs and at least have that to fall back on.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:30
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Someone on reddit made an effortpost about MoreUnited:quote:Today the much anticipated "More United" political organisation launched, not by creating a new centre-left political party as some had suspected, but by creating a co-operative-like organisation which will back any candidates which backs its principles.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:35
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Cerv posted:do you mean replacing Corbyn as leader with an MP from the fresh intake? with absolutely zero experience in parliament? that might not go well. Assuming the next election isn't until 2020, someone like Clive Lewis would have as much experience as an MP as Owen Smith does now, and more than Cameron did when he became Tory leader.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:39
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Sounds like a soggy centrist version of Left Unity and promises to be about as successful.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:39
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Baron Corbyn posted:Assuming the next election isn't until 2020, someone like Clive Lewis would have as much experience as an MP as Owen Smith does now, and more than Cameron did when he became Tory leader. Will the boundary changes trigger instant by-elections or will they just dictate what happens in 2020?
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Jul 24, 2016 17:40
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Cerv posted:do you mean replacing Corbyn as leader with an MP from the fresh intake? with absolutely zero experience in parliament? that might not go well. It's the logical progression of the plan to deselect all sitting Labour MPs and replace them with shouty Green Party voters.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:40
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TomViolence posted:Sounds like a soggy centrist version of Left Unity and promises to be about as successful. what is it with these ridiculous centrist startups, new day lasted a single issue nobody wants centrism when it's called centrism. Nobody wants centrism at all, right now, except a few politicians who benefit massively.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:41
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TheRat posted:Will the boundary changes trigger instant by-elections or will they just dictate what happens in 2020? The boundary changes won't come into effect until the next election.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:42
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Spangly A posted:what is it with these ridiculous centrist startups, new day lasted a single issue The middle class needs a feel-good soft option that doesn't threaten their interests. Or those of the rich.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:44
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Cerv posted:do you mean replacing Corbyn as leader with an MP from the fresh intake? with absolutely zero experience in parliament? that might not go well. It's more that the change in balance in the PLP will make it possible for a non-Corbyn left candidate to get on the ballot.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:45
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TomViolence posted:Sounds like a soggy centrist version of Left Unity and promises to be about as successful. The name is pretty hilarious in that context though, it's more united! That's like more than twice the unity! will unity let me feed my children Patriotism is the only food you'll need now, citizen! what about actual food So much unity!
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Jul 24, 2016 17:46
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Yinlock posted:The name is pretty hilarious in that context though, it's more united! That's like more than twice the unity! It supposedly references a speech made by Jo Cox, which means its a bunch of assholes trying to abuse her memory for political point-scoring.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:47
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I personally wouldn't like to have my own lies staring me in the face around my own home. I guess for a Tory ignoring your own lies is business as usual though. This was funny too: quote:The change is intended to remind staff of the need to deliver results in tackling inequality and improving the lives of the worst-off "A note to all staff: Keep my promises for me and make sure it doesn't inconvenience the rich in any way. It's your fault if any of these promises go unfulfilled. Toodles!"
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Jul 24, 2016 17:51
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TheRat posted:It supposedly references a speech made by Jo Cox, which means its a bunch of assholes trying to abuse her memory for political point-scoring. wow that's loving awful and if true it means they're co-opting Jo Cox's(who, by all accounts, was very progressive and generally a Very Good Person) beliefs and death for their own use. Which is horrific on both a moral and logical level. Moral because duh, logical because it hasn't even remotely been enough time for people to forget what she stood for.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:55
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Baron Corbyn posted:Assuming the next election isn't until 2020, someone like Clive Lewis would have as much experience as an MP as Owen Smith does now, and more than Cameron did when he became Tory leader. This exactly. The likes of Clive Lewis, Richard Burgon, and other 2010 and 2015 intake MPs will have more than enough experience by the next election. Especially given the current baptism of fire...
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kustomkarkommando posted:Also Paddy Ashdown's thingy launched today so Momentum for liberals?
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Jul 24, 2016 18:04
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TheRat posted:Someone on reddit made an effortpost about MoreUnited:
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spiderbot posted:so Momentum for liberals? Isnt that Progress? Guavanaut posted:How does this apply to Co-op MPs? I assume they fall under affiliated as far as the Labour code of conduct, but they actually go by their own? I shall forward your question!
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Yinlock posted:The name is pretty hilarious in that context though, it's more united! That's like more than twice the unity! It's basically this but for political parties, I guess Yinlock posted:and if true it means they're co-opting Jo Cox's(who, by all accounts, was very progressive and generally a Very Good Person) beliefs and death for their own use. Yup, it's even directly on their website: United Unity posted:Inspired by a speech given by the late Jo Cox MP, More United believes in hope and unity, and rejects hatred and division. We have five fundamental beliefs that we will work towards:
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Yinlock posted:I personally wouldn't like to have my own lies staring me in the face around my own home. I guess for a Tory ignoring your own lies is business as usual though. http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/06/official-income-inequality-has-fallen-under-david-cameron/ The issue is that these people genuinely do believe their own lies
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Jul 24, 2016 18:08
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TheRat posted:Isnt that Progress? Isn't Progress explicitly a think tank rather than attempting to be (or present itself as) a mass movement/organisation?
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Niric posted:Isn't Progress explicitly a think tank rather than attempting to be (or present itself as) a mass movement/organisation? Sure that's just not a nice way of saying they have no mass appeal?
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Jul 24, 2016 18:11
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quote:Criteria for membership: I bet the PLP wish they had thought of that.
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Jul 24, 2016 18:13
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Niric posted:Isn't Progress explicitly a think tank rather than attempting to be (or present itself as) a mass movement/organisation? Nah, it's a group within the party. It's a movement, though, not a mass movement.
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So does that mean that if you've ever in your life voted for anyone other than a Labour candidate you're forever and always barred from membership, amen? Like if you voted Lib Dem this one time when you were 18 and you're now 68 can you join Labour? edit: though of course there's no way for them to know, but is that at least the spirit of the law?
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Jul 24, 2016 18:16
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British politics is really just a whole load of this as Jezza fights off the shallow, lip-service appropriation of his democratic socialism and progressive anti-austerity values from his women-only war rig.
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Bryter posted:Nah, it's a group within the party. It's a movement, though, not a mass movement. I can definitely think of some kinds of movement it could be counted as.
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