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Jygallax posted:Uhm, a reddit comment that said it was reporting what was said at the press conference. Ah, cheers, bit of an inaccurate translation then. Suspicion is pretty close to saying "it could be possible and we're looking into it".
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I'll be interested to hear the reason he was denied asylum.
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:The interior ministry now confirming it was a bomb. ... oh poo poo http://m.faz.net/aktuell/gesellscha...h-14356143.html I like how the article states it's "possible" he wanted to kill other people alongside himself. maybe that's what he wanted, or maybe the guy going to a concert with a bomb strapped around himself never intended to hurt anybody 
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Celexi posted:The new normal in central Europe gently caress off.
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pidan posted:... oh poo poo The question is the one of motive. Yeah, he wanted to blow up a bunch of people. But did he want to blow up a bunch of people because he thought the concert was blasphemic, or because he held a grudge over being denied asylum?
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Mithaldu posted:The question is the one of motive. Yeah, he wanted to blow up a bunch of people. If it's true that he was suicidal it may have been a confluence of all three factors, i.e. being generally unstable, being angry and depressed over being denied asylum, with a sprinkle of jihadist ideology thrown on the top to add that last bit of justification in his mind.
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Mithaldu posted:The question is the one of motive. Yeah, he wanted to blow up a bunch of people. "Unklar ist laut Herrmann, ob der Mann in suizidaler Absicht handelte oder andere Menschen mit in den Tod reißen wollte" The question of whether he had a terrorist motive is discussed separately. But really, why'd it have to be Ansbach? That place always seemed like it'd be in the running for Germany's most boring town. Next thing you know there'll be an attack in Hof or Bonn or something.
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Exactly. The investigations still need to figure out exactly what cocktail of crazy this flower was.
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pidan posted:But really, why'd it have to be Ansbach?
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lol of course it way a terrorist attack
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Mithaldu posted:gently caress off. We had three terrorist attacks in 11 days (and a killing spree and a coup spilling over in between), what the gently caress else would you call it? They don't even bother to fly the flags at full mast anymore.
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ArchangeI posted:We had three terrorist attacks in 11 days (and a killing spree and a coup spilling over in between), what the gently caress else would you call it? America 
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ArchangeI posted:We had three terrorist attacks in 11 days (and a killing spree and a coup spilling over in between), what the gently caress else would you call it? They don't even bother to fly the flags at full mast anymore. Maybe people will appreciate the Israeli government now, because they are dealing with this poo poo for ages.
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ArchangeI posted:We had three terrorist attacks in 11 days (and a killing spree and a coup spilling over in between), what the gently caress else would you call it? They don't even bother to fly the flags at full mast anymore. We had one domestic killing spree, one murder by a retarded spurned lover and one that may turn out to be a terror attack, but has not yet been determined to be such. Terror attack means: Politically motivated. So: gently caress off.
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Mithaldu posted:We had one domestic killing spree, one murder by a retarded spurned lover and one that may turn out to be a terror attack, but has not yet been determined to be such. Nizza? Würzburg? Ring any bells?
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If you are not talking about the three most recent incidents, then say that clearly and upfront next time.
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Okay, so apparently we can't deport people from Syria back to Syria. Makes sense. How about we take a look at what the British did after ww2, carve up a piece of desert, send them there and let them establish their own state. Since they will probably all be muslim, I guess it's going to be an islamic state 
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Mithaldu posted:If you are not talking about the three most recent incidents, then say that clearly and upfront next time. quote:We had three terrorist attacks in 11 days Wer lesen kann ist klar im Vorteil.
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Entbindet dich nicht von der Pflicht klar zu kommunizieren. After all the shitposting over the weekend, don't expect me to give a poo poo about a poo poo stirrer who may be right, but can't even be bothered to speak clearly.
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Siehe: Germany Discussion (closed sundays) If anybody is doing polling, we'll see that over the week. Though i don't even know if germany has a regular polling culture like the usa. Do we? Edit: From the 7th July. 
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Our polling is rather sparse compared to the US but they do love their polls a lot. 2016 status: still bad.
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Tagesschau posts a Deutschlandtrend like every week or so. At least it feels that way at times, while sometimes it seems to take longer. It might take a while until recent events are actually reflected in the polls, in any case. So, look. I'm not saying twelve people injured is a great turnout or anything, but it seems like that coulda gone a lot worse and the security measures at the entrance seem to have sort of worked even if it was just a ticket check. (And what kind of inept terrorist doesn't find a way to get a ticket, anyway?) That's good. Really, if you already got to the point where someone walks around with an armed explosive, you know some poo poo's going down.
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What, no Riso coming in going "neener neener, toldya so" ? Really disappointed. 2016 blows. I have a friend who has a theory that David Bowie was what was tying the universe together, and now he's gone it's coming unraveled. Looking more and more likely.
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Sonntagsfrage mein Neger: http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/index.htm There's the Landtagswahlen on that page too, and if you click on the polling institute names you get to see the numbers over time. The main reason Merkel is holding up is that the government has been moving towards the AfD on asylum. Ansbach is going to provide further impetus to erode protections against deportation for example. States have been pointing to their increasing deportation numbers as proof that they're doing something, and there was a bit of a media discussion a while back of alleged abuses of the medical exemption to deportation.
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Jygallax posted:I'll be interested to hear the reason he was denied asylum. Very few people from Syria can claim asylum, as they are not politically persecuted but here as GFK refugees (though not all of Syria is a war zone). So they get a Duldung, this guy is the norm.
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2016 isn't all that bad yet. To match the per capita gun death rate the USA has reached in 2016 alone, with the german per capita murder rate, you need to reach back over 5 years. http://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/2229/umfrage/mordopfer-in-deutschland-entwicklung-seit-1987/ http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ Keep in mind this poo poo is in the news because it's still extraordinary. Get worried when it stops being news-worthy internationally. :/ aphid_licker posted:Sonntagsfrage mein Neger: http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/index.htm And yeah, the bavarian minister of the interior is already calling for stronger deportation reasons.
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Mithaldu posted:And yeah, the bavarian minister of the interior is already calling for stronger deportation reasons.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Reasons why Bavaria is a strategically good terrorism target: if you want to promote distrust against the people you intend to recruit and radicalize by leveraging that distrust, there's no better place to reliably trigger statements and measures to that effect from an elected official. Given that the guy allegedly did not want to pay the entry fee for the musical festival he planned to bomb and that's the reason he only killed himself, I'm not sure your average terrorist is concerning himself with the political landscape of Germany and where his attack would have the biggest long-term strategic impact. Especially since the CSU is basically staying course. If you wanted to have some real impact you would target regions that don't have a CDU government to pressure the SPD and Green into action against Muslims. I guess that makes Reutlingen a great target, especially given it's proximity to Tübingen, where the most sane Green, Boris Palmer, is based.
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GaussianCopula posted:I'm not sure your average terrorist is concerning himself with the political landscape of Germany And the bomber did have a phone call before he went out, though it's unknown as of yet with whom. About the rest you probably know more than i do.
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Honestly don't think it's government statements that are the major driver of distrust a day after a literal suicide bombing by a Syrian.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Reasons why Bavaria is a strategically good terrorism target: if you want to promote distrust against the people you intend to recruit and radicalize by leveraging that distrust, there's no better place to reliably trigger statements and measures to that effect from an elected official. Meh, you can probably get a "Hitler did nothing wrong!" out of some regional East German politicians if you allahakbar enough people over there.
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David S. liked AfD.quote:David flüchtet sich mehr und mehr in die Welt der Computerspiele. Vor allem der Ego-Shooter Counter-Strike hat es ihm angetan. Laut einem Mitspieler meldet er sich in Chats unter Namen wie "Amokläufer" und "Hass" an. Dort lebt er offenbar auch seine Wut auf die Türken aus. Er habe "Türkei =ISIS" gepostet und die rechtspopulistische AFD verehrt, berichtet der Mitspieler.
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waitwhatno posted:Meh, you can probably get a "Hitler did nothing wrong!" out of some regional East German politicians if you allahakbar enough people over there. You can get that without doing literally anything at all so this is setting the bar a bit low.
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Mithaldu posted:Bavaria truly is Germany's Texas. So what are the regional stereotypes in germany then? I always assumed that munich was the more cultured artsy place and say dortmund was rougher more working class (I can only think in terms of football teams  ).
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