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Neurosis posted:not going to watch until i know if the djinni having crazy gay sex with the taxi driver makes it in. Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:But, what about the giant man eating vagina? Pretty sure both these bits are going to be in it.
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Jul 24, 2016 09:16
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WarLocke posted:I googled those books because I'm with this guy, 'Harry Dresden but a woman' was enough to sell me. Contrasting with Dresden, who has many love interests that last a few books before expiring, Kate has one love interest* who she finally hooks up with in book 4 and sticks with. He's a possessive and controlling rear end in a top hat, as is the Genre Standard, although I guess that she gives as well as she takes as far as the dynamics go. Also, there's generally a sex scene per book starting with book 4, but they're short enough and skippable. It's still very much urban fantasy though, not paranormal romance. The plots are about the protagonist finding and killing monsters with her sword. * Technically there's a second, but that one doesn't last very long before she ends up leading an armed posse to his door, long story.
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Jul 24, 2016 10:15
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WarLocke posted:I googled those books because I'm with this guy, 'Harry Dresden but a woman' was enough to sell me. Yeah, it's actually not squicky and awful. The whole "shapeshifter lover" thing is more about the politics than furry sex.
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Jul 24, 2016 11:27
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Shab posted:I don't understand the comparison. Anvil of Stars is much closer to Lord of the Flies or Ender's Game than what MockingQuantum is describing. If you're referring to the Brothers, all I would say is that while they are definitely alien, they are far from being treated as horrific, tonally. Surely you mean the Mothers? The whole uncertainty of whether their mission is true or not, plus the warped rapist society they built, sense of despair due to the loss of Earth, meeting with the dead ship, the decision to genocide the other civilization... It just felt gut wrenching and ominous and horrific to me. It was also written by the same author so I thought the OP might like it.
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neongrey posted:Yeah they've both been cast, afaik. The djinn is in the trailer even Edit: the cast looks great too, I don't recognize shadow but Ian mcshane, Pablo schreiber, Peter stormare and crispin glover are all in it andrew smash fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Jul 24, 2016 |
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Jul 24, 2016 14:50
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neongrey posted:Yeah they've both been cast, afaik. excellent. i jest but in a book that was at times tedious that stuff gave some much needed colour.
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mcustic posted:Surely you mean the Mothers? The whole uncertainty of whether their mission is true or not, plus the warped rapist society they built, sense of despair due to the loss of Earth, meeting with the dead ship, the decision to genocide the other civilization... It just felt gut wrenching and ominous and horrific to me. It was also written by the same author so I thought the OP might like it. Fair point, I actually forgot about the Mothers, as their mysteriousness was sort of benignly aloof and didn't pull me in enough to really care about their backstory... which is for the best since very little was ultimately revealed about them anyway. I personally didn't get a sense of horror from Anvil of Stars but I can see how one might. To me the overriding feeling was the dread of making a moral decision with incomplete information.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:But, what about the giant man eating vagina? I'm not that tall, and I never got the call.
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e: nevermind, I found something
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Jul 24, 2016 20:58
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Shitshow posted:MockingQuantum, it's not sci fi but Dan Simmons' "The Terror" checks all of the other boxes. Hah, good to know, I just grabbed it from the library a couple of days ago.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The TV adaptation of Neil Gaiman's American Gods has a trailer if anyone was waiting for that. Megazver posted:Neil said if you can think of any bit you really liked in the books, it probably made it. Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:But, what about the giant man eating vagina?
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Jul 25, 2016 00:06
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I think the Cold White North bit is going to be season two.
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WarLocke posted:I googled those books because I'm with this guy, 'Harry Dresden but a woman' was enough to sell me. I'm only on the first book, but Kate and the shapeshifter's relationship isn't making me reach for an insulin shot. The world itself is pretty interesting. Unlike Dresden or Faust, it's not our world with magic off to the side--magic is everywhere, and the world has reacted to that in various ways. I'm enjoying the sense of exploration. And Kate carries a sword called Slayer on her back, which I mean, really, what more do you need in a novel?
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Just finished the first of the Engineer trilogy by KJ Parker. I'm a sucker for too clever protagonists. On balance, I really enjoyed it.
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The Kate Daniels books are a lot of fun, and the "open magic" setting (as opposed to the Urban Fantasy default, where everything is like the World of Darkne--I mean, magic is hidden because of the Masquera--I mean nevermind) makes for cool worldbuilding. Yeah, the Anita Blake books did it first, but they never felt like Hamilton thought anything out beyond "our world, but there are hot vampire strip clubs." The Daniels books actually bring some neat ideas to the table.
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andrew smash posted:The djinn is in the trailer even Shadow is played by Ricky Whittle who's only real big thing in America was a side character on the show The 100. I started reading The Ninefox Gambit and while I'm enjoying it, you can really tell it was a first novel. The author goes a little too far with bombarding you with their unique terms and while I'm not that far in I've already noticed that it could have probably used another pass from an editor. Two characters describe something exactly word for word the same which probably should have been written a little differently.
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muscles like this? posted:I started reading The Ninefox Gambit and while I'm enjoying it, you can really tell it was a first novel. The author goes a little too far with bombarding you with their unique terms and while I'm not that far in I've already noticed that it could have probably used another pass from an editor. *cough*tribadism*cough* Yes, I know it's a real word, but it's not one I've ever seen used and it was all a bit Thomas Covenant.
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Jedit posted:*cough*tribadism*cough* The Traitor Baru Cormorant uses it all the time so it is now a thread-approved word (because TTBC is awesome)
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muscles like this? posted:I started reading The Ninefox Gambit and while I'm enjoying it, you can really tell it was a first novel. The author goes a little too far with bombarding you with their unique terms and while I'm not that far in I've already noticed that it could have probably used another pass from an editor. I guess that's a symptom of mostly having published short stories? That, and some of the tech being actually weird as gently caress. Hopefully his editor does a better job on the sequel, Tenfox Gambit.
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Jul 25, 2016 19:47
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Well we know who hasn't been reading their Gene Wolfe, then. 
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Jul 25, 2016 19:48
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Amazon has Ninefox Gambit for like 7 bucks. Gonna read the hell out of here this week.
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It's a pretty solid book. The relationship between Jedao and Cheris is really interesting. Definitely looking forward to the sequel! Speaking of that book, there was a really cool section from the perspective of an assassin. Are there any recommendable books focusing on an assassin character? Something kind of heisty like Locke Lamora?
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apophenium posted:Are there any recommendable books focusing on an assassin character? Something kind of heisty like Locke Lamora? Stephen Brust's Jhereg.
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Finished up The Medusa Chronicles last night. Enjoyed the hell out of it. The first third is a bit slow as characters build their relationships to one another. Once everyone is anchored in place, the story begins in earnest twisting elements around in interesting directions. It's not an overly heavy book to read; there's a strong emotional component to the plot, which breathes a bit more life into the narrative.
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blackmongoose posted:The Traitor Baru Cormorant uses it all the time so it is now a thread-approved word (because TTBC is awesome) Honest opinion: I thought it was an error on General Battuta's part to use it. It's a very obscure word, but the fault was that before using it he'd already established that Baru's people engage in three-way marriages and that the evil empire considers this perverse. So when they talk of Baru as a suspected tribadist, a lot of people who didn't know the word (I admit, me included) would assume they were referring to the customs of her people not being trained out of her rather than to her being a lesbian. While I figured it out eventually, I felt the good General had tried to be a bit too clever for his own good.
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You're suggesting that he was too clever for using a word that meant what he had meant to say?
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Jedit posted:Honest opinion: I thought it was an error on General Battuta's part to use it. It's a very obscure word, but the fault was that before using it he'd already established that Baru's people engage in three-way marriages and that the evil empire considers this perverse. So when they talk of Baru as a suspected tribadist, a lot of people who didn't know the word (I admit, me included) would assume they were referring to the customs of her people not being trained out of her rather than to her being a lesbian. While I figured it out eventually, I felt the good General had tried to be a bit too clever for his own good. It's, uh, not that obscure a word. Git gud, etc.
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Megazver posted:It's, uh, not that obscure a word. Git gud, etc. Spell check doesn't recognize it, that's a pretty good measure.
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Even if you don't know the word, he usually pairs it with "sodomite" so you can infer the meaning. I know I did.
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dy. posted:Come on, it absolutely is obscure, and it's kind of hilarious that you're trying to do literary dick measuring here. I am a pretty voracious reader and I hadn't ever seen it before Baru Cormorant. I also think the book's use of it made sense, since the empire had a bit of a different lexicon for many of its concepts, like the way 'hygiene' was used in a more moral sense. It's not in the stock Kindle dictionary, either, but in the book it is almost always paired with sodomite("Sodomites fear the hot iron, but we do not envy tribadists the knife", etc) in such a way that it should be clear what they are talking about. Edit: Looked it up in my Kindle. By page 20 it says "For the science of sanitary inheritance they had learned made it very clear what a horror it was to lie with another woman, and what punishment the tribadist would receive", so it makes it very clear what it is very early on. Edit Edit: Max Gladstone's fifth Craft Sequence book is out today. Hooray. Khizan fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jul 26, 2016 |
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I think a very good lesson on writing fantasy is being taught here. In that be it a word that you made up or a word that's a little arcane, as long as you use it correctly people will get it, shrug and move on.
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I both understood it and was annoyed by it. Go full Gene Wolfe or don't do poo poo like that.
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Khizan posted:It's not in the stock Kindle dictionary, either, but in the book it is almost always paired with sodomite("Sodomites fear the hot iron, but we do not envy tribadists the knife", etc) in such a way that it should be clear what they are talking about.
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Jul 26, 2016 18:52
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And thus the goons turned on one of their own.
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Jul 26, 2016 18:54
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I could try to save the General's honour, but it would be throwing Yoon Ha Lee under the bus by making him a bigger target. Dilemma. To post his custom My Little Pony Jedao, or not to post...
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The cool thing about not knowing a word in 2016 is that you can still find dictionaries in antique stores if you look hard enough.
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Someone spoil me - in a limited way - on Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora. I'm just over halfway through a book that was sold to me as a pessimistic take on extrasolar colonization, and it seems clear that isn't what the book is about at all. I've read more than enough about balancing the resources of the ship and its failing systems on the voyage to Tau Ceti, and the politics of a generation ship - I have no interest at all in spending the rest of the novel reading about those same things, but in reverse, especially when the characters are paper-thin and seen from such a remote vantage that I really couldn't care less about any of them except Ship. So, would someone mind telling me whether they actually end up turning the ship around and heading back to Earth? Because if that's the case I'll put it down here and look for something else.
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Kestral posted:Someone spoil me - in a limited way - on Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora. I'm just over halfway through a book that was sold to me as a pessimistic take on extrasolar colonization, and it seems clear that isn't what the book is about at all. I've read more than enough about balancing the resources of the ship and its failing systems on the voyage to Tau Ceti, and the politics of a generation ship - I have no interest at all in spending the rest of the novel reading about those same things, but in reverse, especially when the characters are paper-thin and seen from such a remote vantage that I really couldn't care less about any of them except Ship. So, would someone mind telling me whether they actually end up turning the ship around and heading back to Earth? Because if that's the case I'll put it down here and look for something else. Yes, but the ending is glorious and poignant
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Jedit posted:Honest opinion: I thought it was an error on General Battuta's part to use it. It's a very obscure word, but the fault was that before using it he'd already established that Baru's people engage in three-way marriages and that the evil empire considers this perverse. So when they talk of Baru as a suspected tribadist, a lot of people who didn't know the word (I admit, me included) would assume they were referring to the customs of her people not being trained out of her rather than to her being a lesbian. While I figured it out eventually, I felt the good General had tried to be a bit too clever for his own good. The traitor in general felt like a book written by someone trying to be a little too clever. So in other words like a normal goon. He will probably be better in next book, considering The traitor had clear "first book" vibes.
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