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RBA Starblade posted:I can't believe nobody thought to just use a voice modulator for Batman before, it's perfect. They've all been trying to live up to Keaton and Conroy, who were both able to make their voices different enough as Batman as to be a passable explanation for why he's never identified as Bruce Wayne. Of the two, Conroy is obviously the master of it. His technique seemed to be to use more of his normal voice as Batman, and to put on a more airy, light, carefree voice when playing Bruce. Bale's problem was that he used his normal brooding voice for Bruce Wayne, so he had nowhere to go for Batman other than to growl. I'm fine with Bale's growl though, personally.
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seravid posted:Yeah, but put a BvS sucked but man is it pretty to look at 
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Basebf555 posted:I think "You're not brave, men are brave" might be my favorite line in the movie. having finally watched this movie, this is definitely one of the very few cool parts. possibly the only one. edit: Bruce and Diana flirting with Shostakovich in that background was okay too, and it's hard to make Jeremy Irons as a salty butler not at least a little fun.
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Jul 28, 2016 19:23
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Yaws posted:BvS sucked but man is it pretty to look at I understand some of the criticism directed at BvS, but it baffles me whenever anybody calls it ugly.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Superman: 'Save my mother' (dies)
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"Save Martha..." "...My... car!?"
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In a thread full of the dumbest loving discussions and arguments, this Martha discussion may be the stupidest thing ever talked about.
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dublish posted:I understand some of the criticism directed at BvS, but it baffles me whenever anybody calls it ugly. The single shot that likely won't even end up in the finished film of Aquaman being buffeted by the waves as hey crash upon him is better to me than any shot I can recall in the entire MCU. The struggles of the Greek Gods may not clique with everyone as superhero fare but Snyder makes them suitably sumptuous and metahuman.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:having finally watched this movie, this is definitely one of the very few cool parts. possibly the only one. It even works from Bruce's perspective: how brave can Superman be when hardly anything is a genuine threat to him? Bruce is merely a mortal man picking a fight with the next thing to a living god. quote:edit: Bruce and Diana flirting with Shostakovich in that background was okay too, and it's hard to make Jeremy Irons as a salty butler not at least a little fun. Between that, the JLA trailer, and the old cartoon, I'm starting to notice that intentional or not Bats and Wonder Woman tend to have an awful lot of chemistry.
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dublish posted:I understand some of the criticism directed at BvS, but it baffles me whenever anybody calls it ugly. Agreed.     
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Bruce in the batcave is the only one of those that really appeals to me. There were some cool shots though, Lois talking in the doorway to her source stood out. The funeral shots at the end were fugly, were they shot in a weird frame rate or something?
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Jul 28, 2016 20:50
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Bruce in the batcave is the only one of those that really appeals to me. There were some cool shots though, Lois talking in the doorway to her source stood out. The funeral shots at the end were fugly, were they shot in a weird frame rate or something? Yes they were shot in a weird frame rate. Just kidding no they weren't, get your eyes checked.
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Jul 28, 2016 21:04
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teagone posted:Yes they were shot in a weird frame rate. *checks* On double checking, I do, in fact, have eyes. Thanks for the concern. Anyway, does anyone actually know the answer?
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There's some slow-motion in the funeral scenes, so, yeah, they probably were shot in a weird frame rate.
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Sir Kodiak posted:There's some slow-motion in the funeral scenes, so, yeah, they probably were shot in a weird frame rate. The slow motion stuff looked fine (although the fetishizing of the guns in the 21 gun salute was hilarious), but in that shot of the funeral procession walking up the hill, there was his weird flicker to everything. I noticed it earlier in the movie during some of Bruce's flashbacks to being a kid, too. Some scenes looked way granier than others too which was weird. The scene where Luthor is talking to Holly Hunter in the lab early on has a super high film grain I didn't notice anywhere else in the movie, although maybe it was just because of the brightness of that scene.
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Pretty sure it wasn't fetishism. Just opening and closing the movie with gunshots and casings falling to the ground.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Bruce in the batcave is the only one of those that really appeals to me. There were some cool shots though, Lois talking in the doorway to her source stood out. The funeral shots at the end were fugly, were they shot in a weird frame rate or something?     e: you clarified. Thanks
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The military funeral is purposefully inappropriate. Bruce and Diana comment on it.Uncle Boogeyman posted:The slow motion stuff looked fine (although the fetishizing of the guns in the 21 gun salute was hilarious), but in that shot of the funeral procession walking up the hill, there was his weird flicker to everything. I noticed it earlier in the movie during some of Bruce's flashbacks to being a kid, too. Huh. Just put it on to test and looks fine to me. I'm not saying what you're seeing isn't there, but I can't spot it.
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The movement of the actors and camera in this scene: was really good.
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Sir Kodiak posted:The military funeral is purposefully inappropriate. Bruce and Diana comment on it. I think Snyder is too in love with his slo-mo shots of guns and shell casings to really put this across. It's pretty much my sole complaint about Dawn of the Dead '04 too, there's tons of moments in that movie where he kills the momentum to show another loving slo-mo closeups of guns going off and shell casings flying out. MacheteZombie posted:The movement of the actors and camera in this scene: I think this is the exact shot I had in mind. Basically any scene with grass had this really ugly flicker, like a film print being projected with not enough light. And I know it's not just my tv cuz I've been on a big Malick binge lately and believe you me, his movies have hella grass.
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http://motion.kodak.com/kodakgcg/sg/en/motion/blog/blog_post?contentid=4294995322Larry Fong posted:I chose KODAK VISION 500T (Color Negative Film) 5219 throughout in 35mm, IMAX and even 16mm. It's an amazing stock with great speed, latitude and contrast. For large night exteriors we occasionally pushed a stop. With 35mm anamorphic, one has to be careful not to shoot too wide open. With IMAX, depth of field is about as shallow as you can get, which is also a challenge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5CkXgcafB0 This might be effecting the 'flickering' Boogeystein is describing, though it appears to have more to do with the granularity of the film stock in response to harsher lighting conditions. Something that's out of focus is also gonna appear grainier than something in critical focus.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I think this is the exact shot I had in mind. Basically any scene with grass had this really ugly flicker, like a film print being projected with not enough light. And I know it's not just my tv cuz I've been on a big Malick binge lately and believe you me, his movies have hella grass. Hmm I didn't notice any flickering when I watched it. Not doubting you though.
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K. Waste posted:http://motion.kodak.com/kodakgcg/sg/en/motion/blog/blog_post?contentid=4294995322 Thanks for the answer, was genuinely curious about this. I did dig the grain in many scenes. I kind of just assumed this movie would've been shot digitally so it was a surprise to watch it and have it very clearly be film.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Thanks for the answer, was genuinely curious about this. Grain is dope, and another reason I kinda wish the movie was in black-and-white.
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Jul 28, 2016 21:32
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I think Snyder is too in love with his slo-mo shots of guns and shell casings to really put this across. It's pretty much my sole complaint about Dawn of the Dead '04 too, there's tons of moments in that movie where he kills the momentum to show another loving slo-mo closeups of guns going off and shell casings flying out. You're being a little unfair, don't you think? Disregarding the merits and meaning of a scene based off of what you think a director fetishizes.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I did dig the grain in many scenes. I kind of just assumed this movie would've been shot digitally so it was a surprise to watch it and have it very clearly be film. I'm pretty sure all of Snyder's stuff has been shot on film. Ayer also shot Suicide Squad on film and Wonder Woman is as well.
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Jimbot posted:You're being a little unfair, don't you think? Disregarding the merits and meaning of a scene based off of what you think a director fetishizes. How is applying my knowledge of a director's previous movies to the one I'm watching unfair? People do this to directors all the time.
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Jul 28, 2016 21:46
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:How is applying my knowledge of a director's previous movies to the one I'm watching unfair? People do this to directors all the time. I just don't get why you watched the movie after everyone you asked said you wouldn't like it.
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Jul 28, 2016 21:49
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Hat Thoughts posted:I just don't get why you watched the movie after everyone you asked said you wouldn't like it. surely I am not the first person you have encountered who occasionally enjoys watching bad movies
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:surely I am not the first person you have encountered who occasionally enjoys watching bad movies You're certainly not the first one who doesn't enjoy good movies.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:surely I am not the first person you have encountered who occasionally enjoys watching bad movies Honestly man if you're happy I'm happy
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:How is applying my knowledge of a director's previous movies to the one I'm watching unfair? People do this to directors all the time. Bruce's arc in the film is that he goes from fetishizing his parents' death (and running away from their funeral) to dismissing that whole scene as a 'circus', and attending a more genuine funeral instead. Dawn of the Dead satirized the gun fetishism also. The most prominent example, in that film, is a scene where two good people kill each other for no reason, and then a baby gets shot in the face. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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dublish posted:You're certainly not the first one who doesn't enjoy good movies. Which good movie does he not like? I only know his opinions about BvS.
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MacheteZombie posted:Hmm I didn't notice any flickering when I watched it. Not doubting you though. Me neither, although I can check my digital copy tonight. Maybe it was genuine issues at the showing? Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Which good movie does he not like? I only know his opinions about BvS. Hiyoooooooo   zing-a-rooooni
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Barudak posted:Affeck was pretty much my ideal Batman and the fact he got scenery emulsifying lines to back up his horror monster vibe was the icing on the cake. Same. I didn't particularly care for BvS, but I loved everything about Batfleck. I thought he'd be awesome and he was. Psyched for the Batman solo movie.
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dublish posted:You're certainly not the first one who doesn't enjoy good movies. idgi Jenny Angel posted:Honestly man if you're happy I'm happy bad movies are good for the soul. and sometimes there are genuinely good elements hiding in there, like Ben Affleck's remarkably solid Bruce Wayne in this (I'm not crazy about his Batman). SuperMechagodzilla posted:Dawn of the Dead is satirized the gun fetishism also. put this on my tombstone
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Sir Kodiak posted:I'm pretty sure all of Snyder's stuff has been shot on film. Ayer also shot Suicide Squad on film and Wonder Woman is as well. I think Bugblatter brought up either in this thread or the BvS one that Snyder's so dedicated to shooting on film his movies are like one of, if not the, last projects using an insanely high speed film camera for his speed ramping shots and slow-mo inserts instead of just switching over to a digital camera to get them.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:How is applying my knowledge of a director's previous movies to the one I'm watching unfair? People do this to directors all the time. By ignoring the context of the scene in which he uses that technique. Instead of reading the scene or reading people interpretations of it, you just dismiss it as the director fetishizing something. But hey, you do you.
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Jimbot posted:By ignoring the context of the scene in which he uses that technique. Instead of reading the scene or reading people interpretations of it, you just dismiss it as the director fetishizing something. But hey, you do you. fair enough. having now read your interpretation, i find that i still agree with my own.
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