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TheRat posted:The research, which media commentator Roy Greenslade said confronted journalists, “and their editors, with the reality of their bias,” claimed there was a “strong tendency within the main BBC evening news bulletins for reporters to use pejorative language when describing Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters, including words like ‘hostile’ and ‘hard core’.” This makes much more sense when you realise the BBC isn't attempting a fair and balanced representation of reality, but of the narratives coming from other major news outlets. The prevailing view says Corbyn bad? Corbyn bad! (good approximately 10% of the time, maybe) e/ in 1348, the Black Death spreads to central and western Europe, proving that free movement is a terrible idea and shouldn't be allowed. e2/ I realise it should have been X358 but I hosed up and it's now too late to back down, much like brexit. Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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toe knee hand posted:Ehm. He moved the Liberal message to the left of the NDP for the duration of the election. The Liberal government has been decidedly centrist and not followed through on a whole bunch of their promises. This is disappointing. I don't exactly follow Canadian politics and perhaps shouldn't be surprised, though
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Private Speech posted:Guardian continues on it's inexorable march towards supplanting The Onion: Why are you dismissive? This article raises important questions about the role of technology in terrorism and counter-terrorism.
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Kurtofan posted:Why are you dismissive? This article raises important questions about the role of technology in terrorism and counter-terrorism. that image does seem to equate "learning about islam" with "terrorism" though
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Yinlock posted:that image does seem to equate "learning about islam" with "terrorism" though If the result brings up terrorist propaganda outlets when you search that, well that's part of the issue.
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Guavanaut posted:I don't know what a counterspeech event is, but when massive multinationals host them I'm suspicious.
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Kurtofan posted:If the result brings up terrorist propaganda outlets when you search that, well that's part of the issue. fair enough
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Kurtofan posted:If the result brings up terrorist propaganda outlets when you search that, well that's part of the issue. It doesn't.
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Zephro posted:I can't get internet over the phone line (4.6k of copper to the cabinet and no one is ever going to do anything about it), I have to drive for a pint of milk, oil fired heating is a pain and I can't drink after work. It's The Worst Oil fired? Positive luxury we had a fire place, back burner and pump
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Guavanaut posted:I don't know what a counterspeech event is, but when massive multinationals host them I'm suspicious. organized production of anti-right-wing messaging, so to speak quote:In one test, a think tank last year helped former members of right-wing and Islamist extremist groups create fake accounts to send private messages to current members of those groups. The messages prompted more, and longer-lasting, conversations than researchers expected, according to Ross Frenett, who conducted the test as a fellow at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a London-based think tank that studies violent extremism. Facebook was informed of the research but not the fake accounts.
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Kurtofan posted:If the result brings up terrorist propaganda outlets when you search that, well that's part of the issue. When 91% of people will never look beyond the first page of a google search, looking at all 68,100,000 results and finding 44% are linked with violent messages when you look at innocuous keywords isn't particularly frightening.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:When 91% of people will never look beyond the first page of a google search, looking at all 68,100,000 results and finding 44% are linked with violent messages when you look at innocuous keywords isn't particularly frightening. What if those results are on the first page? This was already an issue when I was a teen and internet was still a wild new thing, searching about nazism on google would bring up neo-nazi websites first and foremost, when you consider the role internet has regarding mass radicalization, google must take steps to prevent dangerous content from reaching people who are easily manipulated. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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quote:...claims from a Greek right-wing group that eating halal meat is poisonous to Christians. How the gently caress would that even work? Does the meat know? Do Muslims take an antidote every day as part of their prayers? Does it contain something that reacts with communion wine? Seriously, baking into every person a skepticism and desire that people in power prove their hypotheses and show their working could do so much good. limited posted:I've got a mental image of them following any speech, just getting up on a stage, saying, 'I DISAGREE WITH ALL THE STATEMENTS MADE BY THE PRIOR PERSON' then dropping the mic, and walking away. Zephro posted:4.6k of copper to the cabinet and no one is ever going to do anything about it
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Guavanaut posted:
Probably via the same action that gives me a burning/itching sensation every time I enter a church
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Incense? Poor air quality?
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Guavanaut posted:
there's the certified-nutbar version where the meat is genuinely tainted by malign demonic influences at some level, which I have had personally attested to me by some Buddhists and Christians but not, curiously, anywhere in Britain. the slightly-less-nutbar version goes like this. This one I have seen in the UK; it was especially popular when the horsemeat scandal was in the popular consciousness. the least nutty version focuses on animal cruelty and assorted alleged hormonal/chemical impacts of having animals killed by burly men with sharp knives - not especially objective but nothing that would look out of place in standard organic-granola writing
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ronya posted:the slightly-less-nutbar version goes like this. This one I have seen in the UK; it was especially popular when the horsemeat scandal was in the popular consciousness. Yes, one of the things that halal kill plants are notorious for is one of the major things forbidden by halal. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if some slaughterhouses were breaking code, not just halal but USDA and red tractor and all sorts, but that's not something specific to halal, it's just the industry. I like that it makes excuses for kosher food too, which is near identical. That's interesting because the UK versions I've seen tend to be more "[some country] has banned halal and kosher food! Like and share if you think animal welfare is more important than religion."
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Kurtofan posted:What if those results are on the first page? Could you please link the terrorist propaganda that's on the first page of those google searches?
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Andrast posted:Could you please link the terrorist propaganda that's on the first page of those google searches? I don't think it's up to me to do that kind of research, but the possibility to abuse the new media is there and vigilance is key.
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Kurtofan posted:I don't think it's up to me to do that kind of research, but the possibility is there. Answer: There is none.
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Kurtofan posted:I don't think it's up to me to do that kind of research, but the possibility to abuse the new media is there and vigilance is key. It sort of is if you're suggesting google hasn't refined it's search algorithm since 1993.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Clearly, Momentum should be nationalised. So you're saying the Party should become the State?
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OwlFancier posted:Sort of, I can't remember when it was first unified but I think we're just outside of 1000 years from it still? I seem to remember it being just before the Norman conquest. Mostly I wanted to say that because it won't be true for very much longer. The Norman conquest was rather famously in 1066. England was made a unified thing by this chap in 927AD - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86thelstan - then briefly became part of a Scandinavian empire - you may have heard of Canute and his thing with turning back the waves, but it's more properly spelled Knut - then back to being its own thing before the Normans rolled on up. If things had gone otherwise we might still be culturally part of Scandinavia, social justice, high taxes and rotten fish for all! Edit: and this is for the actual unified state. You could probably talk of an England quite a while before that, just like there was 'Germany' and 'Italy' long before 1870 or so. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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Send all the english back to Athelstan imo.
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Æthelred is the only king I submit to.
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Barry Foster posted:This is disappointing. I don't exactly follow Canadian politics and perhaps shouldn't be surprised, though Disappointing compared to what was promised but it's still a colossal breath of fresh air compared to what came before. ie: A decade of loving idiot Harper betting everything on the ecological disaster that is the tar sands.
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Tesseraction posted:Æthelred is the only king I submit to. Do you think he's prepared for that?
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Niric posted:Do you think he's prepared for that? Hoho, you fell into my trap, I was not referring to the King of England, but the kings of Mercia and East Anglia! My Middle Anglian blood lusts for Hwicce death.
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OJ has an interview with Jeremy Corbyn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGXVHHxxnZQ Haven't watched it all yet but 45 mins of interview seems promising.
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OvineYeast posted:OJ has an interview with Jeremy Corbyn: haven't clicked yet but am hoping for either OJ Simpson or for Corbyn to be talking to an unresponsive carton of tropicana for the best part of an hour e: hopes dashed
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Angepain posted:haven't clicked yet but am hoping for either OJ Simpson or for Corbyn to be talking to an unresponsive carton of tropicana for the best part of an hour Hope IS a mistake, comrade
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Guavanaut posted:Incense? Poor air quality? I was mostly joking (referencing the nutbar theory ronya posted), but those things do actually make me pass out. All the better to indoctrinate me with their mind waves
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At least they've got lead roofs so the cellphone radio waves won't turn you racist. Unless someone's nicked the lead again. Then the radiation leaks in and you start blaming it on Latvians.
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Tesseraction posted:Hoho, you fell into my trap, I was not referring to the King of England, but the kings of Mercia and East Anglia!
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Guavanaut posted:At least they've got lead roofs so the cellphone radio waves won't turn you racist. Well, they nicked the lead from the roof!
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*hastily builds Hwiccepedia to document atrocities*
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OvineYeast posted:OJ has an interview with Jeremy Corbyn: Jeremy made a maths mistake at 5:20, he said "25% increase" when it should have been 33%. Not fit to be leader.
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Guavanaut posted:At least they've got lead roofs so the cellphone radio waves won't turn you racist. I think you'll find the Latvians were innocent and it was those dodgy 2 Corinthians. Express posted:Correction - Amazing things we get back if we leave EU - 26/7/2016 Edit https://twitter.com/ja_madden/status/758240859313827840 Vengeance of Pandas fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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I've always thought the easiest way to deal with that kind of bullshit (wherein papers spout lies and then correct them in a tiny box on page 36) would be to force newspapers to announce corrections on the front page of the following edition. You can bet giving up juicy headlines would force rags like the Express to do a little more fact checking.
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quote:Express posted: Can we get a link to this correction? I believe it deserves a wider circulation.
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