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TheOneOutside posted:Ahem, I think you meant Michael Jordan
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The Modern Leper posted:Muslim dad holds an LLM (international law degree) from Harvard. It was a very strong speech, but I'm concerned that too much of the awe is based on a patronizing attitude because English isn't his first language. Can't speak for anyone else, but I was in awe because "You have sacrificed nothing" coming from the father of a deceased Muslim soldier towards a privileged, arrogant, idiotic blowhard like Trump is rhetorically devastating stuff
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Yeah the optics helped but those were some snaps.
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My dad has the same (naturalized citizen) Constitution, and I am trying to persuade him to make a copy and mail it to Trump. I was 6 when my father was naturalized and was so excited that I could show how proud I was by wearing red, white and blue ribbons in my hair. Hair virtue signaling?
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Presto posted:I'm sorry, son, I think you have him confused with someone else. His name is Roger Murdock. Son of a bitch, I botched the joke last night!
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Jul 30, 2016 03:31
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It's crazy how many people refuse to believe Hillary is anti CU despite the history of CU.
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The Modern Leper posted:Muslim dad holds an LLM (international law degree) from Harvard. It was a very strong speech, but I'm concerned that too much of the awe is based on a patronizing attitude because English isn't his first language. Nah his "have you even read the Constitution" line, as well as the "you've sacrificed nothing" line, was just hands down perfect regardless of him not being a native speaker. His wife looked awkward though and I was hoping she'd say something, anything. 
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Evil Fluffy posted:Nah his "have you even read the Constitution" line, as well as the "you've sacrificed nothing" line, was just hands down perfect regardless of him not being a native speaker. His wife looked awkward though and I was hoping she'd say something, anything. Nah I liked how she just stared at the camera with barely concealed scorn for trump. Don't buy into the scott adams line that she is submissive or something. One of the fathers of a dead cop did the same while his wife spoke.
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The Modern Leper posted:Muslim dad holds an LLM (international law degree) from Harvard. It was a very strong speech, but I'm concerned that too much of the awe is based on a patronizing attitude because English isn't his first language.  Is there a fund or any cause I can donate that's set up in their son's memory? Miss Nomer fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jul 30, 2016 |
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Jul 30, 2016 03:57
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SedanChair posted:Nah I liked how she just stared at the camera with barely concealed scorn for trump. Don't buy into the scott adams line that she is submissive or something. One of the fathers of a dead cop did the same while his wife spoke.
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Speculating why a grieving mother chose not to speak at a national convention is pointless honestly
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SedanChair posted:Nah I liked how she just stared at the camera with barely concealed scorn for trump. Don't buy into the scott adams line that she is submissive or something. One of the fathers of a dead cop did the same while his wife spoke. Yeah, I saw that less of the wife was submissive and more she probably wasn't comfortable speaking to millions but wanted to support her husband and son. If she really was a walking submissive Muslim wife stereotype, she wouldn't even be on stage in the first place. If I was invited to give a speech at the DNC, I don't think I could do it. It's bad enough when I have to give speeches to 100+ people in a room, but a speech to over 10 million people that's being filmed? Uuuuuuuuugh. I'd be shaking the entire time.
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SedanChair posted:Nah I liked how she just stared at the camera with barely concealed scorn for trump. Don't buy into the scott adams line that she is submissive or something. One of the fathers of a dead cop did the same while his wife spoke. They were just on Lawrence O Donnell, and in addition to savaging the gently caress out of both Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell for being the respective leaders of the senate and house and yet they haven't condemned Trumps very obvious hate speech against Muslims, apparently his wife gets destroyed every time she sees a picture of her son and it was all she could do to just not burst into tears since if you see a wide shot of the speech his picture was on a 20' tall screen opposite her where her husband was speaking. And yeah, she spoke during that interview and it's obvious she's not submissive to her husband or any of that other racist as bullshit at all. A Winner is Jew fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jul 30, 2016 |
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I think she didn't speak because the networks would have to edit out the repeated use of expletives she'd use to describe Trump. Silent fury in those eyes I saw...
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Mr. Kahn's speech made my wife straight up sob by the end. I'm a political junkie that watches all the debates, all the convention coverage, and she sat down to watch Hillary's speech with me last night; the first time she's really had time at all to invest in political poo poo (just finished her first year of nursing school as a "non traditional" student and worked full-time for the first half of the year). She and I were both Bernie supporters and were going to vote for Hillary before the convention. Now she wants to volunteer for the Clinton campaign. The message hit home, I guess, so good job DNC and the Clinton folks. Also, I'm happy to live in a swing state where the votes count, I suppose.
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A Winner is Jew posted:And yeah, she spoke during that interview and it's obvious she's not submissive to her husband or any of that other racist as bullshit at all. Yeah, if she were a submissive conservative traditional muslim woman yadda yadda she would not have been wearing hijab like that Its a bunch of racist distraction from an undeniable powerful message
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Jul 30, 2016 04:16
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yeah, if she were a submissive conservative traditional muslim woman yadda yadda she would not have been wearing hijab like that Speaking of which... that was entirely free form. https://twitter.com/gabrielroth/status/759206374781968384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw No speechwriter or teleprompter, not even notes.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Speaking of which... that was entirely free form. thats so goddamn unamerican
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TBeats posted:thats so goddamn unamerican I'll have you know that going into something with nothing but confidence is extremely American
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Metapod posted:I'll have you know that going into something with nothing but confidence is extremely American Hence, Donald Trump.
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Yoshifan823 posted:Hence, Donald Trump. You're mistaking confidence with ignorance.
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so remind me gain why did we dislike tim kaine??? Real question: Can anyone explain to me, what CU is and why it's bad? Like if I could get an easy-to-read effortpost, I would love you and think you're cool.
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SSNeoman posted:so remind me gain why did we dislike tim kaine??? Very few people in D&D knew anything about him or had heard him speak, so he was presumed to be the safe, boring choice for VP as opposed to perennial subforum favorites Perez, Castro, or outside bets like Warren. Tim Kaine was assumed to be the Generic White Guy Option.
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Tim Kaine owns e: however, he inexplicably accepted gifts while in office
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SedanChair posted:e: however, he inexplicably accepted gifts while in office
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A Winner is Jew posted:You're mistaking confidence with ignorance. I think in his case, the two go hand in hand.
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Spacebump posted:It's crazy how many people refuse to believe Hillary is anti CU despite the history of CU. It's because she's good at raising money, and the Right Wing has spent decades painting her as corrupt. Which also plays into the usual purity arguments used against her. People like Bernie because he doesn't give a gently caress about the politically expedient thing, and dislike Hillary because that's a core tenant of her image. They see her actions as craven poll chasing and a smoke screen to hide her secret conservative dreams. The idea that Hillary doesn't want to stick a knife in the gut of Citizens United, twist said knife, and keep cold, hateful eye contact as the light of life slowly dims in it's eyes is crazy. But only if you take the time to look into the actual facts of the situation instead of just going with the glib idea that Hillary loves the gently caress out of Donors and taking money, so she's obviously for more money in politics. It's similar to the line of thinking that Hillary and Bill are flip flopping opportunists, just following the winds of change on gay issues. It's real Truthy, but if you take any time to look into the facts it's clearly not true. SSNeoman posted:so remind me gain why did we dislike tim kaine??? Anyone who dislikes Tim Kaine is a bad person. How can you not like the physical embodiment of a fusion of Mr. Rogers and Ned Flanders the ding dang diddly politician? SedanChair posted:Tim Kaine owns Virginia doesn't give a gently caress as long as you declare the gifts, so I don't really see it as a big deal. Of course my governor is Rick Scott, so my outrage meter might need some calibration. I mean, it's not like Tim Kaine set up a law to funnel money into his business and then argued that there was no conflict of interest because he no longer owned any stake in the company, having given all his shares to his completely unrelated wife.
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Cythereal posted:Very few people in D&D knew anything about him or had heard him speak, so he was presumed to be the safe, boring choice for VP as opposed to perennial subforum favorites Perez, Castro, or outside bets like Warren. Tim Kaine was assumed to be the Generic White Guy Option. He is, but similar to how biden complimented Obama's lack of experience Kaine compliments Hilary's lack of likability.
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SedanChair posted:Tim Kaine owns
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Regardless of the law, for politicians a gift should be viewed with the same suspicion as a nubile aide throwing herself at you.
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SedanChair posted:Regardless of the law, for politicians a gift should be viewed with the same suspicion as a nubile aide throwing herself at you. Well in that case I'm glad Kaine isn't going to end up hosting a morning show on MSNBC.
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An atheist I know hates Kaine because she views his selection as pandering to Christians. She might be partially right but come on. She's actually a cool uber feminist most of the time but right now she's gone full blown Stein. I'm disappointed.
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SedanChair posted:Regardless of the law, for politicians a gift should be viewed with the same suspicion as a nubile aide throwing herself at you. I've asked this previously, possibly in another thread - do we actually have a list of the gifts that he accepted and were they limited to just him or were his staff included?
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SedanChair posted:Regardless of the law, for politicians a gift should be viewed with the same suspicion as a nubile aide throwing herself at you. I don't think he ever planned on going further than being being a Virginian politician or an appointee, so he didn't consider the way it would look if he became the VP or a candidate for POTUS. Also it's the way Virginia seems to do things, so it would be even less likely to be looked at from an outside perspective. Remember his father in law is also a former Virginia Governor. citybeatnik posted:I've asked this previously, possibly in another thread - do we actually have a list of the gifts that he accepted and were they limited to just him or were his staff included? The list is at the Virginia Public Access Project. The vast majority of the gifts are paying for travel expenses from various political groups.
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Bast Relief posted:An atheist I know hates Kaine because she views his selection as pandering to Christians. She might be partially right but come on. She's actually a cool uber feminist most of the time but right now she's gone full blown Stein. I'm disappointed. Yeah that's pretty ridiculous. He's a Catholic trained by Jesuits. Any proper godless socialist knows such a man to be an ally.
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Gyges posted:I don't think he ever planned on going further than being being a Virginian politician or an appointee, so he didn't consider the way it would look if he became the VP or a candidate for POTUS. Also it's the way Virginia seems to do things, so it would be even less likely to be looked at from an outside perspective. Remember his father in law is also a former Virginia Governor. I like the typos in some of these. But, yeah, nothing's leaping out at me with this either, particularly when it's broken down by year. Virginia's got some of the laxer approaches to how much you can accept, right?
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Gyges posted:I don't think he ever planned on going further than being being a Virginian politician or an appointee, so he didn't consider the way it would look if he became the VP or a candidate for POTUS. Also it's the way Virginia seems to do things, so it would be even less likely to be looked at from an outside perspective. Remember his father in law is also a former Virginia Governor. The only gifts that looks suspicious there is from Teva pharmasuticals for $12,000 (which digging into them it looks like they specialize in generic drugs) for travel to a governors meeting, and free use of a venture capitalists vacation home for $18,000. Everything else over like $2000 seems to be travel and spaced over several years.
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SedanChair posted:Yeah that's pretty ridiculous. He's a Catholic trained by Jesuits. Any proper godless socialist knows such a man to be an ally. It's nuts. He had to stare down his own beliefs and push them aside in favor of what's best for his constituents, and I can respect that as a godless heathen.
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