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tanglewood1420 posted:I like AMVY quite a bit, but that's possibly just because the use of Inner City Blues was so perfect for the tone and mood of the film. Best use of a pop song in a film score in a long time. That is a fantastic opening, and there's a lot of really intense and touching scenes beside. I just didn't feel the entirety I guess? E: Maybe I should give it another shot. Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Jul 30, 2016 |
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tanglewood1420 posted:I like AMVY quite a bit, but that's possibly just because the use of Inner City Blues was so perfect for the tone and mood of the film. Best use of a pop song in a film score in a long time. I love it too, but I kind of get the complaints. It's like a Godfather Part II fanfiction/fan-film, but in the best way. J.C. Chandor isn't one of my favourite new-ish directors, but he's one of the more interesting ones.
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I really liked that his hands are pretty much clean the whole way through, from his perspective. There might be an unspoken nudge somewhere around the union thing, but mostly he's clean as a whistle. (A Most Violent Year spoilers)
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Parachute posted:He's played a Colombian (Colombiana) and was the middle-eastern guy being interrogated in Three Kings off the top of my head. Erick Avari's another one. Egyptian, Turkish, Greek, etc
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Tars Tarkas posted:Remember when Zhang Yimou made good movies? Now he makes movies about Matt Damon saving China from monsters at the Great Wall. This is being released in February in the USA; it's going to bomb hugely.
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Corek posted:This is being released in February in the USA; it's going to bomb hugely. I guess the official strategy is "Make half a billion in China and who cares if the US likes it, but perhaps dump it in that month where Deadpool made crazy bank because who even knows what audiences want now  "
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Maybe if you have 2 billion usd worth of yuan that you can't bring out of the country, it's acceptable to have like 100 million usd that are now outside the country. It's still a bunch
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Chinese box office is even more screwed up than the US box office as they'll print tickets for the movie you want to see but it will have another movie's name on it, they'll show movies to empty screens that the system says are sold out shows, and all sorts of other weird stuff. Some of that has been reformed but a lot of it still goes on. Also this might not even be the most expensive Chinese movie by the time it hits US theaters, that benchmark gets surpassed all the time thanks to people buying their way into the movie industry and February is when all the New Years stuff comes out and something from that group will be a huge film.
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The MSJ posted:It appears that Skiptrace, the Renny Harlin movie starring Jackie Chan and Johnny Knoxville, is quite a success in China. It grossed $58.5 million in China this past weekend, making it Chan's most successful opening in the country. I won tickets for this movie yesterday, and it has a strange quality arc. The beginning parts of establishing Jackie Chan's and Johnny Knoxville's characters were hastily done, where almost every person involved were fairly obviously phoning in despite Chan destroying and blowing up a village in the process. Knoxville's characters' Russian nemeses (who are great) fight Chan and somehow, they manage to drop some weird 90s action style of "humour": Chan: I don't fight girls! Huge Muscular Russian Enforcer Girl: Then fight me... not as a girl! Also she gets herself stuck in between two steel beams because of her huge breasts. At least the matroska doll gag is good? SUDDENLY when they get out of Russia in a (really beautiful) train, things become weird. The whole movie is suddenly well-directed, with some fun humour (the Adele joke is somehow longer but better in the actual film), great scenery, wonderful small/side characters, chemistry between the leads, obvious unscripted gags, etc. The thing is, it's turned into a promotional documentary film advertising the southern parts of China. Those bits are REALLY beautiful and makes me want to visit them except I know it's probably teeming full of mainland china tourists there? Oh then after a really awkward maybe homophobic bit they get cold in a cave, remove all their clothes and hugged each other for warmth no homo they return to Hong Kong and it's back to Chan kicking thugs and hopping around, with Knoxville dropping a Kramer v Kramer joke at one point. Then when you watch the bloopers you can feel Chan's age creeping on him which is v  Also they hack a smartphone and the computer screen gets filled with 11111111101010101010, until Chan recognises the pattern creates some arbitrary logo linking it to a shipyard. it's great The music is outstanding in how loving poo poo it is because everything sounds like they are in an all American rodeo overall i don't recommend it other than the middle travel documentary oh an fan bingbing is super beautiful and i like her
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Tars Tarkas posted:Chinese box office is even more screwed up than the US box office as they'll print tickets for the movie you want to see but it will have another movie's name on it, they'll show movies to empty screens that the system says are sold out shows, and all sorts of other weird stuff. Some of that has been reformed but a lot of it still goes on. Also this might not even be the most expensive Chinese movie by the time it hits US theaters, that benchmark gets surpassed all the time thanks to people buying their way into the movie industry and February is when all the New Years stuff comes out and something from that group will be a huge film. I don't understand why they would do this? Just to shift money around?
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Hollismason posted:I don't understand why they would do this? Just to shift money around? Potemkin
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Hollismason posted:I don't understand why they would do this? Just to shift money around? The entire Chinese economy is a shell game at the western world's expense, essentially.
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mr. stefan posted:The entire Chinese economy is a shell game at the western world's expense, essentially. One of the reasons Vancouver is so expensive to live in is there's a bunch of empty high-end apartment buildings owned by Chinese investors who don't really care about making a profit or anything, they just want their money invested in physical assets.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:I won tickets for this movie yesterday, and it has a strange quality arc. Sounds pretty easy to recommend to me.
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Hollismason posted:I don't understand why they would do this? Just to shift money around? China is fundamentally corrupt and rotten to the core.
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Stop the thread! https://twitter.com/JerrySeinfeld/status/759236173265039361 ' What about Bee Movie 2 '
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well why not posted:Stop the thread! It's gold Jerry!
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The Saddest Rhino posted:I won tickets for this movie yesterday, and it has a strange quality arc. A friend and I were talking about this movie and musing about who's more physically broken down between the two leads.
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Guy Mann posted:Potemkin And the fun is that the Chinese media market is so heavily controlled that they only allow a certain number of foreign productions to be shown there every year. Which is why you see so much China pandering in recent movies; it's not for the actual Chinese audiences, it's for the sake of the government officials who say whether or not a studio can release a film in China. The Chinese coproductions are an attempt to get around this, though it seems like it's not always successful at that. There's this weird top down push by the Chinese government that they must be economically and technologically the best, or at least equal of any western nation. So they've got to have the biggest movie ever even if it means playing to empty theaters with quotas on movie ticket sales. But as the Chinese economy has obviously been hitting a depression while the Chinese government loudly announces how much the economy has grown and is still growing and shut the gently caress up about how everything makes it clear that it isn't or we will kidnap you from another country and convict you of committing a hit and run in a city you've never been to (really, the most compelling argument that the Chinese economy is fine), that decline has been making people stop taking these proud announcements at face value and finding not a lot underneath.
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Random Stranger posted:There's this weird top down push by the Chinese government that they must be economically and technologically the best, or at least equal of any western nation.
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Hollismason posted:I don't understand why they would do this? Just to shift money around? No why
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Hollismason posted:I don't understand why they would do this? Just to shift money around? I'm not certain, but just a guess: They have fairly strict quotas about the number of theaters and number of showings of western movies in order to protect the domestic movie industry, but nobody actually gives a poo poo about Chinese movies. Western movies are the ones that people actually want to see. So the accounting records all say people are turning out to see whichever Chinese movie, while the actual movie shown is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or whatever. Nobody in China cares about the deception, because everybody benefits from it. Hollywood probably cares quite a bit, but what are they going to do, not release their movies in China?
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Also bear in mind that the Chinese cinema industry is vertically integrated in a way that is illegal in the US. That's why it was such a big deal when Legendary got bought by the Wanda group, because they are both a distributor and the owner of the largest cinema chain in China. One reason why Warcraft did gangbusters in China (supposedly? who knows really) is because it was mainlined direct onto 3,000 screens without any competition.TetsuoTW posted:It's not that weird really when you look at the last like 150 years of history. They got hosed real hard by the imperial powers through both lovely treaties and shadier poo poo like opium, then they got hosed over by the Japanese while in the middle of loving themselves over, with one side of them explicitly kissing America's rear end (and then losing), and then they were one of the pitiful backward fuckups of the world for the latter half of the 20th century. The Chinese state(s, although one far more than the other) still has a pretty powerful inferiority complex as a result. From China's perspective they have always been and will always rightfully be the wealthiest, most cultured and most advanced nation on the planet, the 19th and 20th centuries were just a blip. tanglewood1420 fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jul 30, 2016 |
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Chinese civilization is amazing and cool but it's a shame that the people in charge of it have done such a poo poo job for so long now. I feel like the USA had an unfair advantage because we didn't exist until 240 years ago and had nowhere to go but up (and we waited until 1877 to actually try improving anyting).
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Apollodorus posted:Chinese civilization is amazing and cool but it's a shame that the people in charge of it have done such a poo poo job for so long now. I feel like the USA had an unfair advantage because we didn't exist until 240 years ago and had nowhere to go but up (and we waited until 1877 to actually try improving anyting). Just like Orc, from a worm into a might serpent. William Blake's prophecy made flesh.
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China didn't have the opportunity to salvage all that sweet sweet german tech that was left behind at the end of WW2 after Russia defeated the nazis
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well why not posted:Stop the thread! Yeasssssssss
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bring back old gbs posted:Yeasssssssss Am I to understand that Bee Movie was good in some way? Because that is not the impression I had when it came out.
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Bee movie is the best movie.
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Gilok posted:Am I to understand that Bee Movie was good in some way? Because that is not the impression I had when it came out. It was strangely tone deaf and I got the feeling it was more or less Seinfelds stream of consciousness dictated to a room of writers for a day. That sounds not so bad but then they made it a CG kids movie  So if he wants to make another one I can't wait to see what he'll be ranting to those writers about this time.
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bring back old gbs posted:It was strangely tone deaf and I got the feeling it was more or less Seinfelds stream of consciousness dictated to a room of writers for a day. That sounds not so bad but then they made it a CG kids movie Was the Bee Movie thread goldmined? because that was an amazing thread.
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bring back old gbs posted:So if he wants to make another one I can't wait to see what he'll be ranting to those writers about this time. Bee Movie 2: Comedians in Cars Getting Honey
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Movie had a strong bee plot but a very weak b plot.
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Antz is better.
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Bee movie is an amazing show where these happen: A worker bee seduces a human woman in an existing healthy relationship. The bee succeeds. Courtroom drama where the lawyer representing the humans is a straw man who cosplays as a baby A bee nearly dies so they send him to hospital A swarm of bees lift a plane A sniper takes out people eating honey under court order The only person making any sense is the ex lover of the human girl but nobody listens to him True progressive representation of transgender bees : the worker bees, traditionally female, identify and act as male and nobody cares about their trans status
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Bee movie is an amazing show where these happen: Seriously, some one with archives needs to dump the Bee Movie thread into a pdf or something, it was amazing.
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Bee Movie Thread (archives) link - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3538818
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Tars Tarkas posted:Bee Movie Thread (archives) link - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3538818 This is even more amazing than I remembered. Jesus Christ is it a weird movie.
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