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Fuckman posted:As a person living on a planet that does not engage in space trade, yes, I need to have it explained why space trade is so necessary and why a blockade is so heinous, especially over such a negligible period of time. I am willing to be generous! Is there a plague where only space medicine can help? Ok, fair play. Do they need food? Why they can't grow their own food on an entire planet? Maybe economics had suppressed local farming! if they had said that even remotely: OK. And thanks to all the waterfalls we see, after food and medicine, already we've run out of stuff that would be such an immediate pressing issue that they literally can't survive without it for a couple of days, without reference to Mega-Maid. Man you are like one of those failed Ripley clones in the tubes in Alien Resurrection, but of SMG
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“Adults...struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life. Adults foolishly demand to know how Superman can possibly fly, or how Batman can possibly run a multibillion-dollar business empire during the day and fight crime at night, when the answer is obvious even to the smallest child: because it's not real.”
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# ? Jul 31, 2016 16:37 |
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quote:as always, my ban history is a wall of being completely right and whimpering idiot trash heaps running to mommy. i am however gratified that large numbers of you have come to accept my inescapable conclusions. i can't begrudge you the time it took any more than i can begrudge a bear time to learn to ride a tiny motorcycle
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Phi230 posted:ROGUE ONE: WORST CASE I skip to this page to catch up in thread.. Glad to see I was greeted by the worst post ever.
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# ? Jul 31, 2016 17:10 |
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imagine hating a movie so much that you spend $10 multiple times so you can get mad at people who dont hate it as much as you
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# ? Jul 31, 2016 17:47 |
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Kly posted:imagine hating a movie so much that you spend $10 multiple times so you can get mad at people who dont hate it as much as you "But this time, the outcome will be different!"
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:“Adults...struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life. Adults foolishly demand to know how Superman can possibly fly, or how Batman can possibly run a multibillion-dollar business empire during the day and fight crime at night, when the answer is obvious even to the smallest child: because it's not real.” Just because it's not real doesn't mean it can't be good. I understand that TPM is a unique movie. But this is Star Wars. It should be held to a higher standard, and some people don't believe it has met that standard. You don't see former stars of That 70s Show making "super cuts" of the original trilogy. If someone asks me whether I want to watch TPM or ANH, I'm going to answer ANH every. single. time.
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PBS Newshour posted:I skip to this page to catch up in thread.. Glad to see I was greeted by the worst post ever. Welcome to the fuckin show youngblood This is the Star Wars thread where spergs come to die
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Apparently the cold open is young Jyn playing in a field when Clone Troopers land at her little house, Poggle the Lesser getting out and trying to persuade her father to help build the Death Star and then, when a CGI de-aged Mads has turned him down and killed him Vader coming in, choking Jyn and Mads agreeing to come so long as the girl is left alone.
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# ? Jul 31, 2016 18:02 |
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:But this is Star Wars. It should be held to a higher standard Never have these words been combined in such a manner.
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# ? Jul 31, 2016 18:18 |
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The Phantom Menace becomes an excellent film when you realize that Jar Jar is driving the events of the film, and he's also the sith lord.
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# ? Jul 31, 2016 18:36 |
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If this is an actual spoiler, you may want to toss spoiler tags on it...
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# ? Jul 31, 2016 19:13 |
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Just because it's not real doesn't mean it can't be good. I understand that TPM is a unique movie. But this is Star Wars. It should be held to a higher standard, Star Wars, from the start, has run on basic visual Flash Gordon logic. Naboo is a pretty garden world, here's a bunch of machines coming knocking over trees and marching skeletal robot soldiers into cities. This is a bad thing.
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Brainiac Five posted:An emphasis on form over content is, erm, not exactly a sign of intellectualism. Just as a poorly made script shot with skill and vision may give the illusion of great competency, so may a clever argument delivered lazily and sloppily give the impression of idiocy.
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HotCanadianChick posted:Just as a poorly made script shot with skill and vision may give the illusion of great competency, so may a clever argument delivered lazily and sloppily give the impression of idiocy. Well, bud, you aren't providing any cleverness to go with your laziness and sloppiness, so what does that make you? EDIT: Forgot to put this in APA format.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Star Wars, from the start, has run on basic visual Flash Gordon logic. Naboo is a pretty garden world, here's a bunch of machines coming knocking over trees and marching skeletal robot soldiers into cities. This is a bad thing. It's a great example of ideology at work, since the imagery really is that simple. Fans conjure up this notion of 'unfathomable political complexity' to escape from the terrifying simplicity of a phrase like 'the heroes are racist imperialists'. This logic is why you get tens of thousands of youtubes devoted to plot holes, making grand displays of mock incomprehension. The goal is to prevent understanding. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jul 31, 2016 |
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Why waste perfectly good hate on the prequels, which are good, when the Holiday Special is right there.
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Tunicate posted:The Phantom Menace becomes an excellent film when you realize that Jar Jar is driving the events of the film, and he's also the sith lord. Again, this is unironically the point of the movie and almost certainly author's intent (minus the Sith Lord part). Qui-Gon: Nothing happens by accident. Anakin: Oops! The entire movie is a celebration of the clumsiness of the universe and the redemptive potential inherent in human folly: George Lucas posted:I think it is obvious that [Qui-Gon] was wrong in Episode I and made a dangerous decision, but ultimately this decision may be correct. The “phantom menace” refers to the force of the dark side of the universe. Anakin will be taken over by dark forces which in turn destroy the balance of the Galaxy, but the individual who kills the Emperor is Darth Vader—also Anakin. The tale meanders and both the prediction and Qui-Gon are correct—Anakin is the chosen one, and he did bring peace at last with his own sacrifice. Luke couldn't kill the Emperor himself, but he could make Anakin reflect on his life and kill the Emperor. That's the real reason why there's that (in)famous clip of Lucas saying Jar Jar is the "key" to everything. He's the most visible embodiment of the movie's central metaphor about the elasticity of the Force. Human error is ultimately just another means the cosmic Force (which you can think of as either the deterministic laws of the universe or as some kind of conscious higher power) uses to its own ends. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jul 31, 2016 |
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PriorMarcus posted:Apparently the cold open is young Jyn playing in a field when Clone Troopers land at her little house, Poggle the Lesser getting out and trying to persuade her father to help build the Death Star and then, when a CGI de-aged Mads has turned him down and killed him Vader coming in, choking Jyn and Mads agreeing to come so long as the girl is left alone. Poggle the Lesser dies in Episode III.
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# ? Jul 31, 2016 22:36 |
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Proposition Joe posted:Poggle the Lesser dies in Episode III. Did the EU ever explain who Poggle the Greater was because if not that was a huge missed opportunity.
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# ? Jul 31, 2016 22:42 |
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Brainiac Five posted:Did the EU ever explain who Poggle the Greater was because if not that was a huge missed opportunity. There wasn't a Poggle the Greater. The "Lesser" came from him being born into the lower social caste
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jivjov posted:There wasn't a Poggle the Greater. The "Lesser" came from him being born into the lower social caste This is one of the worst things I have ever heard. My god.
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George Lucas posted:The story meanders This is true.
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Brainiac Five posted:This is one of the worst things I have ever heard. My god. It's like having Seneca the Younger and saying there never was a Seneca the Elder.
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# ? Jul 31, 2016 23:14 |
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Bongo Bill posted:Why waste perfectly good hate on the prequels, which are good, when the Holiday Special is right there. Tracking down a copy of the holiday special to watch would actually require work and effort, and the people who come here just to post about how much they hate a movie aren't interested in either of those things. It's so much easier to come in here and regurgitate RLM soundbites instead.
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# ? Aug 1, 2016 00:02 |
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I think the prequels are flaw but i liked them. my only beef is i feel the trade federation is the worst villains in star wars and i feel they are not a threat to the heroes. and yet i am ok with the sepatrist and they are just puppets for the sith to gain more power in the republic, and was disposed of when he got said power. palpatine was the best thing about the 3 movies, the worst being using a ton of early 2000 CGI but that is more of a fault of the tech. funny enough i don't see the black in jar jar, the trade fedaration on the other hand to me sound like a white guy doing yellow face in the 30's, and yes i know flash gorden did that poo poo a ton, but that poo poo was hated even by 1999. Cyron fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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TPM is mostly garbage, but it's not garbage because it didn't explain why being blockaded is a bad thing, good grief.
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http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/fed...729-gqgqx4.html quote:In the 2011 census 64,390 Australians marked Jedi as their religion, up from 58,053 in 2006. This put the number of Jedi in Australia just behind Sikhs and above Seventh Day Adventists. quote:Mr Brennan said there are "many genuine followers of the Jedi way and they're not all nut jobs and ferals".
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It's all cut straight from the first trailer, but we have a TV Spot for Rogue One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHtdmWVmzQ
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Oh god I'm suddenly 13 and reading the Thrawn books again what is happening.
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jivjov posted:It's all cut straight from the first trailer, but we have a TV Spot for Rogue One: Fookin 'ell I can't wait for this movie
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# ? Aug 2, 2016 03:21 |
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I don't know about you but the klaxons really do it for me in these trailers.
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# ? Aug 2, 2016 04:13 |
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So nobody honestly responded to my question if their prequel defense was just a joke, therefore, I must assume it is or they are just being contrary. However: For those of whom simply have mental problems, I'm not really interested in bashing The Phantom Menace, that's Easy Mode. I'm more interested in making you realize that your opinions on film, while your defend the prequels, are axiomatically invalid. That was the impetus of the argument, a poster whining about how The Force Awakens was bad, while he spent innumerable hours defending the prequels. They are such unequivocally garbage films in every way that there's virtually no film you can criticize consistently as a human with worthwhile opinions while defending the Star Wars prequels, let alone a competent and beloved Star Wars film. You think the cinematography in The Avengers is lame? You like Attack of the Clones. You think the womens' roles are underwritten in BvS? You like Revenge of the Sith. You don't like the racism in Birth of a Nation? You like The Phantom Menace. etc, etc Fuckman fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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ShineDog posted:TPM is mostly garbage, but it's not garbage because it didn't explain why being blockaded is a bad thing, good grief. Actually yes, its failure to connect with the audience and make them care at all is a major reason it failed.
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Fuckman posted:Actually yes, its failure to connect with the audience and make them care at all is a major reason it failed. The sentence you quoted did not mention the thing you seem to think it did.
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Bongo Bill posted:The sentence you quoted did not mention the thing you seem to think it did. Yes it did. The failure of the film to demonstrate the consequences of the blockade is a major reason why it didn't connect and why people outside of the fanboy demographic consider these films boring, terrible failures.
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Fuckman posted:Yes it did. The failure of the film to demonstrate the consequences of the blockade is a major reason why it didn't connect and why people outside of the fanboy demographic consider these films boring, terrible failures. The sentence you quoted was talking about whether the events were clearly understandable, but you are talking about whether they are emotionally compelling. Those are two different things.
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Fuckman posted:Actually yes, its failure to connect with the audience and make them care at all is a major reason it failed. You apparently care enough to rereg multiple times.
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# ? Aug 2, 2016 05:34 |
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computer parts posted:You apparently care enough to rereg multiple times. Re-regging multiple times is indeed insane. But the fact remains that the prequels suck. Flash Gordon-visuals are not solely responsible for the original Star Wars series' success, and to ignore the human, everyday relatable elements that made the OT so successful is folly.
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Re-regging multiple times is indeed insane. But the fact remains that the prequels suck. Flash Gordon-visuals are not solely responsible for the original Star Wars series' success, and to ignore the human, everyday relatable elements that made the OT so successful is folly. Literally the past decade of Star Wars merchandising has been entirely about events deriving from the Prequels. They are quite literally a larger cultural cachet than the OT right now, especially for those under 30.
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