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Top headline on FoxNews.com right now: Don't know why they're literally echoing Russian propaganda, but there you go.
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exquisite tea posted:I guess if you're super realpolitik about keeping Republicans out of the white house you'll want a very close election where Trump could plausibly have won so that his platform is not rejected outright and some of the true believers stick around in the party. I am willing to sacrifice a Cruz presidency after Hillary gets in her Supreme Court nominees if it means the white nationalism of Trump's campaign is purged for another generation. I am not Machiavellian enough to consider the rise of explicit white nationalism in the political discourse worth if for the election turnout
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Jul 31, 2016 22:58
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Colorado Springs is Christian as gently caress but it's not that bad. I've lived here like 6 years and you just usually just hear have a blessed day. Though they might have something to do with no recreational weed in the city but lol if you don't have a medical card
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Jul 31, 2016 22:58
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Jul 31, 2016 22:58
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beergod posted:And also literally the most terrifying thing I've ever read. Does anyone think Trump is going to go away quietly when he loses? It's going to get real ugly. can someone link the Trump narcism meltdown effort post? sounds like a good read and I missed it.
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Jul 31, 2016 22:59
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:The obvious nightmare scenario here is that Clinton beats Trump by provoking him and goading him into more and more outrageous positions and never actually address the economic discontent that accounted for the (non-racist half of) Trump's success, and 4 years and a mild recession later, Ted loving Cruz comes in and cleans up in 2020. Sure is weird how that "economic discontent" appeared years before any economic problems, back in the 60s.
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Jul 31, 2016 23:00
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exquisite tea posted:I guess if you're super realpolitik about keeping Republicans out of the white house you'll want a very close election where Trump could plausibly have won so that his platform is not rejected outright and some of the true believers stick around in the party. a bigger loss would definitely make it easier for the party to try for a 'clean break' with trump (i'm sure the media can't wait for when they get to fawn all over paul ryan again for example) but just remember that in 2020 the electorate is going to be another 2% less white and minorities aren't dumb enough to forget which party welcomed in the white supremacists regardless of how little/much trump loses the election by
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Jul 31, 2016 23:02
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fishmech posted:Sure is weird how that "economic discontent" appeared years before any economic problems, back in the 60s. frustration with email security protocols likewise predates the invention of email
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Jul 31, 2016 23:03
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Nonsense posted:Only go to barbers that use that lovely shave cream machine that warms it Hot and Foamy?
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Jul 31, 2016 23:03
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fishmech posted:Sure is weird how that "economic discontent" appeared years before any economic problems, back in the 60s. The Deep South has always struggled economically in contrast to the North even in the relatively prosperous mid-20th century. Racism and Nationalism have always been inseparable from blue-collar economic frustration.
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Jul 31, 2016 23:04
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Fox Ironic posted:Say what you want about Mormons, but they are fairly tolerant of outsider's worldviews. Comes with the whole "getting unfairly labelled a cult" thing. "unfairly" lol, they wear magical underwear and are sworn to secrecy regarding their rituals on pain of death
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Jul 31, 2016 23:05
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:i know he didn't endorse trump but if he really thinks it's truly unacceptable, trump's his leader now and there's nothing he can do about it short of ditching the party Nah. Graham is cool, I mean not really, his actual belief system is poo poo, but I think saying the GOP are required to renounce their party is a bit much just don't endorse the bigot running for President under your banner.
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Jul 31, 2016 23:06
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Constant Hamprince posted:"unfairly" lol, they wear magical underwear and are sworn to secrecy regarding their rituals on pain of death the only practical difference between a cult and a religion is membership number
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Jul 31, 2016 23:07
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America. https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/759871424391680000
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Jul 31, 2016 23:08
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DynamicSloth posted:Nah. Graham is cool, I mean not really, his actual belief system is poo poo, but I think saying the GOP are required to renounce their party is a bit much just don't endorse the bigot running for President under your banner. ok yeah that's probably a little harsh but it would be nice for more republicans to have some self-awareness that trump is a direct product of the viewpoints and policies that they've spent the last several decades actively promoting, it's just frustrating to see the "good ones" position be "trump sucks but none of us had anything to do with him"
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Jul 31, 2016 23:09
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Constant Hamprince posted:"unfairly" lol, they wear magical underwear and are sworn to secrecy regarding their rituals on pain of death Pentecostals speak in tongues. Certain Evangelical sects handle snakes. Orthodox Christians believe Communion is literally Time Travel. Magic Underwear is pretty par for the course.
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Jul 31, 2016 23:10
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The Deep South has always struggled economically in contrast to the North even in the relatively prosperous mid-20th century. Racism and Nationalism have always been inseparable from blue-collar economic frustration. sure is weird how the deep south suddenly covered the entire united states from about the time the civil rights act was signed
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Jul 31, 2016 23:10
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I forget, Jeb, where was Mr. Khan when he died and why was he there again?
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Jul 31, 2016 23:12
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Jul 31, 2016 23:14
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i still cant believe he has been beaten down that badly.
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Jul 31, 2016 23:16
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I'll never forget that war...it started in 2009?2005? The 2000s
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Jul 31, 2016 23:19
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Fox Ironic posted:Pentecostals speak in tongues. Certain Evangelical sects handle snakes. Orthodox Christians believe Communion is literally Time Travel. They didn't consider black people to be fully human until the '60s dog
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Jul 31, 2016 23:19
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Consummate Professional posted:I'll never forget that war...it started in 2009?2005? The 2000s To be fair, if anyone can speak for families grieving from the Iraq War its Jeb!
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Jul 31, 2016 23:21
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Jul 31, 2016 23:22
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Fox Ironic posted:Pentecostals speak in tongues. Certain Evangelical sects handle snakes. Orthodox Christians believe Communion is literally Time Travel. wait, explain the time travel thing. also i never understood why the snake handling churches didn't use use a weird looking ball python morph instead of super deadly one. the verse says snakes not venom saced ones.
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Jul 31, 2016 23:23
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Mel Mudkiper posted:To be fair, if anyone can speak for families grieving from the Iraq War its Jeb! If only cause he wasn't sure if it was bad or not
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Jul 31, 2016 23:23
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Dapper_Swindler posted:wait, explain the time travel thing. also i never understood why the snake handling churches didn't use use a weird looking ball python morph instead of super deadly one. Because, all credit to snake handling churches, they honestly believe their poo poo
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Jul 31, 2016 23:24
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Dapper_Swindler posted:wait, explain the time travel thing. also i never understood why the snake handling churches didn't use use a weird looking ball python morph instead of super deadly one. the verse says snakes not venom saced ones. To the latter the snakes have to be poisonous, it's the point. There's several passages referencing serpents not harming the bearer. If they aren't venomous they can't harm: And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues. They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. (Mark 16:17-18)
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Jul 31, 2016 23:27
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sarmhan posted:I'm not sure on the first, from what I can read the Orthodox Church believes in transubstantiation, but that it's through a mystical process that men cannot understand. I bet it really hurts to have a giant python bite you.
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Jul 31, 2016 23:28
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Bip Roberts posted:I bet it really hurts to have a giant python bite you. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. (Luke 10:19) And when they were escaped, then they knew that the island was called Melita. And the barbarous people shewed us no little kindness: for they kindled a fire, and received us every one, because of the present rain, and because of the cold. And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand. And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live. And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god. (Acts 28:1-6) It'd be an interesting test of faith if people didn't, well, die doing it.
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Jul 31, 2016 23:30
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sarmhan posted:I'm not sure on the first, from what I can read the Orthodox Church believes in transubstantiation, but that it's through a mystical process that men cannot understand. ok question, how is the "drink any deadly thing" part dealt with? like, if they actually believe this stuff couldn't they just drink gasoline to prove it instead of bothering with the snakes?
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Jul 31, 2016 23:33
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:they just drink gasoline to prove it instead of bothering with the snakes? That's saturday night and they call it moonshine
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Jul 31, 2016 23:34
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:ok question, how is the "drink any deadly thing" part dealt with? like, if they actually believe this stuff couldn't they just drink gasoline to prove it instead of bothering with the snakes? On Trump news, CNN is trashing him pretty hard at the moment: 
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Jul 31, 2016 23:35
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Dapper_Swindler posted:wait, explain the time travel thing. also i never understood why the snake handling churches didn't use use a weird looking ball python morph instead of super deadly one. the verse says snakes not venom saced ones. One common interpretation of transubstantiation is that those present are literally transported to the time and place of Jesus's temporal existence while simultaneously existing in the present. I may have oversimplified the Time Travel thing.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:ok question, how is the "drink any deadly thing" part dealt with? like, if they actually believe this stuff couldn't they just drink gasoline to prove it instead of bothering with the snakes? side note - if anyone can explain these kinds of churches in a rational way to outsiders, trump needs that person as a comms director, not the dimwit from the less-favored branch of the miller family.
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Jul 31, 2016 23:35
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Fox Ironic posted:
ah yes PA, original home of the right wing bitter clinging proud clingers
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Jul 31, 2016 23:36
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squidgee posted:can someone link the Trump narcism meltdown effort post? sounds like a good read and I missed it. Prester Jane posted:I'm in the middle of moving cross country right now and my anxiety is sky high at the moment so I don't really have the energy to do a proper breakdown of the present situation, so I'm just going to quote myself from 2 months ago. I would argue that what we are seeing out of trump at present is right in line with my projections. you'll have to go to her post to read it but that's the one
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"Clinging to their guns and religion" is the truest thing Obama has ever said.
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Constant Hamprince posted:They didn't consider black people to be fully human until the '60s dog Some churches think homosexuals are diseased or possessed, right now, today.
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