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Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
I have heard it unironically discussed that Trump himself leaked the pics.

Especially since it seems to not really be an issue and yet the Post is doubling down on it.

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Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Is independent city the same thing as unincorporated counties / towns? Because unincorporated areas exist almost everywhere. They are especially prevalent in the midwest and prairie areas.

No, weirder. In most places cities are an extra level of government on top of the county government, or in some cases incorporated into/supplanting the county government. In VA, cities are independent of counties, and serve as their own locality. As a result you end up with bitter rivalries between cities and their surrounding counties for citizens and tax bases, exacerbated by the racial dynamics of white flight (many cities are heavily black, and post-CRA are governed by majority black councils, while counties tend to be affluent and white). Regional cooperation is hard-won and easily disrupted as a result, and there are precious few examples of successful large scale regional projects, such as transit networks.

One of the reasons Kaine is so popular around these parts is because, as a popular white mayor of majority black Richmond, he really helped heal some of those stark racial divides, presumably by listening really intently to everyone and then making bad dad jokes and calling everyone sport. :eng101:

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

So the Khan/Trump feud is the main headline for every single news network this morning. I didn't check Fox News though. This is going to dominate another news cycle.

can someone give me a rundon on this as someone from outside the uk? it has kind of sailed me by.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
You know who's really bought and sold by Russia? That's right!

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

FlamingLiberal posted:

Now Corey Lewandowski is on CNN claiming that 'the Khans' son wouldn't have died had Trump been president at that time'.

I find it interesting the Trump campaign is trying to act like the Khans are upset their son died in Iraq and not because the sacrifices their son made are being ignored and his religion denigrated.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Sion posted:

can someone give me a rundon on this as someone from outside the uk? it has kind of sailed me by.

At the DNC, Khazr Khan gave a speech about his Muslim American son that died in 2004 in Iraq and was awarded a Bronze Star for heroism. The thrust of that speech is that Muslims come to this country and become patriotic and valuable citizens, just like every other immigrant group, and that Trumps proposal to ban Muslims from immigrating here flew in the face of everything this country and the consitution stands for. The line of the night was "You sacrificed nothing!" So Trump and his surrogates spent all weekend talking about how actually he's sacrificed a bunch, you don't know him, and why was Khan's wife just standing next to him silently the whole time, is it because Muslims hate women?

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


zoux posted:

At the DNC, Khazr Khan gave a speech about his Muslim American son that died in 2004 in Iraq and was awarded a Bronze Star for heroism. The thrust of that speech is that Muslims come to this country and become patriotic and valuable citizens, just like every other immigrant group, and that Trumps proposal to ban Muslims from immigrating here flew in the face of everything this country and the consitution stands for. The line of the night was "You sacrificed nothing!" So Trump and his surrogates spent all weekend talking about how actually he's sacrificed a bunch, you don't know him, and why was Khan's wife just standing next to him silently the whole time, is it because Muslims hate women?

There was also him pulling out his pocket Constitution and offering to lend it to Trump, asking if he'd ever even read it before. Trump responded to this by accusing him of having no right to say he's never read it, which is hilarious for several reasons.

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Quorum posted:

Sugar shack is the poo poo. Puts duck doughnuts to shame. :colbert:

And we in the VA/WV thread answer questions as they come up but a thread with an updated OP would be really nice. I love VA but place is definitely weird to move to from elsewhere. Another example: loving independent cities, they make no sense and are dumb.

assuming that it is a spinoff, why the hell isn't it called duck doughnutsy?

Have Some Flowers!
Aug 27, 2004
Hey, I've got Navigate...
538's nuts today. Now-cast showing Clinton 63.6% vs 36.4% Trump because Florida suddenly jumped upwards in her favor.

Are there a bunch of military families and fire fighters in Florida?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

MrAristocrates posted:

There was also him pulling out his pocket Constitution and offering to lend it to Trump, asking if he'd ever even read it before. Trump responded to this by accusing him of having no right to say he's never read it, which is hilarious for several reasons.

Every month the speaker's website posts a photo roundup of interesting pics from the last month. Look at number one from July.

Have Some Flowers! posted:

538's nuts today. Now-cast showing Clinton 63.6% vs 36.4% Trump because Florida suddenly jumped upwards in her favor.

Are there a bunch of military families and fire fighters in Florida?

Nate you shook rear end weakling!

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Sion posted:

can someone give me a rundon on this as someone from outside the uk? it has kind of sailed me by.

*takes a deep breath*

There's this Muslim soldier who immigrated as a kid with his parents to America from Pakistan who rose to the rank of Captain and was killed in action in Iraq in 2004. His parents got upset about Trump and the Muslim ban and called him out publicly in the Democratic National Convention. His dad literally pulled the US Constitution out of his pocket and offered it for Trump to read, it was a very Aaron Sorkin moment and everyone loved it. Trump being as Trump does, went after them and insulted them insinuating the mom was quiet not because of overwhelming emotion but because Muslim men abuse their women (if you think insulting the parents of KIA war heroes in the UK is is bad, it's like triple as bad in the US). It's gotten Trump lots of denunciations and "This is just not okay" reactions and even some Republicans are chiding him for it.

Instead of shutting up he stepped into it big time because he has no self-control or has a crazy theory where any publicity is good even if it exposes you as a walking pile of burning garbage. And he and his surrogates have kept stepping on the rake for four days in a row now instead of trying to make it go away like an ordinary campaign would.

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

ComradeCosmobot posted:

You know who's really bought and sold by Russia? That's right!

Now to a rational person who took Clinton Cash at face value, this should totally discredit it since they clearly threw together a whole lot of coincidences to rewrite a narrative in less than a week, right?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Oh also the wife and mother that was accused of being Islam's Victim went ahead and scathed the gently caress out of Trump and his surrogates in an essay every bit as powerful as the DNC speech imo.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

It's a fractal of unforced errors. If you pick at any single part or branch of it you get a whole separate branching out of more errors and fuckups. It's difficult to try to keep it succinct because then you start diving into tangents like how Trump didn't remember that Putin annexed Crimea or how a former Trump staffer has now accused Mr Pocket Constitution (Khizr Khan) of being in the Muslim Brotherhood. That wasn't a fake tweet right?

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."

MrAristocrates posted:

There was also him pulling out his pocket Constitution and offering to lend it to Trump, asking if he'd ever even read it before. Trump responded to this by accusing him of having no right to say he's never read it, which is hilarious for several reasons.

Is that the whole freedom of speech y'all have as a right to say stuff like that?


zoux posted:

At the DNC, Khazr Khan gave a speech about his Muslim American son that died in 2004 in Iraq and was awarded a Bronze Star for heroism. The thrust of that speech is that Muslims come to this country and become patriotic and valuable citizens, just like every other immigrant group, and that Trumps proposal to ban Muslims from immigrating here flew in the face of everything this country and the consitution stands for. The line of the night was "You sacrificed nothing!" So Trump and his surrogates spent all weekend talking about how actually he's sacrificed a bunch, you don't know him, and why was Khan's wife just standing next to him silently the whole time, is it because Muslims hate women?

I... kind of want to know more about what Trump has supposedly sacrificed (other than a live chicken in his nightly satanic rituals) and what the response was to his wife being accused of being silent because... mothers that have lost children should turn themselves into political spectacles somehow.

Super Librarian
Jan 4, 2005

This weekend I learned some fascinating new things from two white guys (mid 20s) working a fast food counter!

When Hillary gave her DNC speech, they had white noise machines playing over the California delegation because they supported Bernie so strongly and were booing nonstop. Also, they made sure no mics picked up the crowd and all applause was just recordings!

They strongly supported Bernie in the primary, but one of them heard a lot of good things about this Gary Johnson guy and urged the other worker + me to check out his website and vote for him in the general!

It was almost surreal to hear this sorta stuff in person for the first time after seeing it online so much, I've been real lucky so far in that regard. In my office it's been split pretty evenly in three ways between Hillary/Trump/depressed republicans.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Sion posted:

Is that the whole freedom of speech y'all have as a right to say stuff like that?


I... kind of want to know more about what Trump has supposedly sacrificed (other than a live chicken in his nightly satanic rituals) and what the response was to his wife being accused of being silent because... mothers that have lost children should turn themselves into political spectacles somehow.

Lessee, well one of his henchmen said that "building a business is a sacrifice" on CNN this morning.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Super Librarian posted:

This weekend I learned some fascinating new things from two white guys (mid 20s) working a fast food counter!

When Hillary gave her DNC speech, they had white noise machines playing over the California delegation because they supported Bernie so strongly and were booing nonstop. Also, they made sure no mics picked up the crowd and all applause was just recordings!

They strongly supported Bernie in the primary, but one of them heard a lot of good things about this Gary Johnson guy and urged the other worker + me to check out his website and vote for him in the general!

It was almost surreal to hear this sorta stuff in person for the first time after seeing it online so much, I've been real lucky so far in that regard. In my office it's been split pretty evenly in three ways between Hillary/Trump/depressed republicans.

If the Democratic party was this competent at engineering poo poo we wouldn't be contemplating the most painless ways of suicide for if Trump wins.

It's like Socialist Obama. At this point I wish the conspiracy theory were true.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe

zoux posted:

Lessee, well one of his henchmen said that "building a business is a sacrifice" on CNN this morning.

Also, a Trump flack argued yesterday that Trump sacrificed his two marriages because he was such a hard worker.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Does anyone have a good source on GDP growth by quarter?

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 214 days!

Super Librarian posted:

depressed republicans.

On the upside, this particular group is probably far more fun to drink with than usual.

e:

DaveWoo posted:

Also, a Trump flack argued yesterday that Trump sacrificed his two marriages because he was such a hard worker.

Wow. You'd think his base would be unshakeable, but this sort of comment is almost perfectly calibrated to chip as many people away from it as possible.

Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Aug 1, 2016

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

SedanChair posted:

The Never Forgiving Your Friends and Family for Supporting Trump FAQ

Q: Should I forgive them when Hillary wins?

A: No. They must know isolation and misery unto death, or this will keep happening because it's "just politics."

Q: But they babysit my kids!

A: They'll turn your kids evil.

Q: But they paid for my college!

A: I don't care

Q: But Thanksgiving will be really awkward!

A: You know what's awkward? Getting murdered by obese paramilitaries, whom your Trump-worshiping friends and family are in love with.

My dad's just looking out for my Immigration and Customs Enforcement career prospects. :3:

Periodiko
Jan 30, 2005
Uh.

DaveWoo posted:

Also, a Trump flack argued yesterday that Trump sacrificed his two marriages because he was such a hard worker.

Gingrich really should have been the VP.

Former Everything
Nov 28, 2007


Is this right?
Here's the forum I visit when I wonder what, exactly, Trumpkins believe about these crazy things he says:

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/upon-further-reviewkhans-dad-has-other-potential-motives/64547068/

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Mr Interweb posted:

Does anyone have a good source on GDP growth by quarter?

FRED is your friend.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP


Seriously any time anyone has a question on economy figures just use FRED.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

DaveWoo posted:

Also, a Trump flack argued yesterday that Trump sacrificed his two marriages because he was such a hard worker.

Holy poo poo. Do you have a link for this? It's too perfect, I need some kind of confirmation.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

axeil posted:

FRED is your friend.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP


Seriously any time anyone has a question on economy figures just use FRED.

Why would i use bottled water numbers for the economy figures?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Goon Danton posted:

Holy poo poo. Do you have a link for this? It's too perfect, I need some kind of confirmation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ElEl279NY

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

axeil posted:

FRED is your friend.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP


Seriously any time anyone has a question on economy figures just use FRED.

Thanks, but how do I get that to display quarterly percentage growth?

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Mr Interweb posted:

Thanks, but how do I get that to display quarterly percentage growth?

Edit Graph->Units->Percent Change

This is also the seasonally adjusted number. If you want the raw number it's a different series, but it should be easy to find by searching. Or scrolling down the page to the "related series" links.

axeil fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Aug 1, 2016

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Antti posted:

it was a very Aaron Sorkin moment and everyone loved it.

I love The West Wing to death and even watched The Newsroom in its entirety (I'm so so sorry) and this is bang-on.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Mr Interweb posted:

Thanks, but how do I get that to display quarterly percentage growth?

open excel and get to work

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


Mr Interweb posted:

Thanks, but how do I get that to display quarterly percentage growth?
'Edit Graph,' red button in upper right with a gear on it.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Night10194 posted:

I think Kaisch's long play is going to work out better for him than Cruz's backstab. Because if Trump loses, people will point to Cruz as being a part of it, while Kaisch has made his lack of support clear without doing a grand-standing and public snub. Kaisch will come off more as 'I told you so' than 'It's your fault'.

Reminder of something I read during the primary. Kaisch is the competent 2nd or 3rd in command evil henchmen that gets poo poo done and if he takes over might be worse than the old big bad.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

gradenko_2000 posted:

I love The West Wing to death and even watched The Newsroom in its entirety (I'm so so sorry) and this is bang-on.

newsroom owns

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

axeil posted:

Edit Graph->Units->Percent Change

This is also the seasonally adjusted number. If you want the raw number it's a different series, but it should be easy to find by searching. Or scrolling down the page to the "related series" links.

Thanks!

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

botany posted:

newsroom owns
It's a bad show, do not encourage people to watch the Newsroom.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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botany posted:

newsroom owns

I love The West Wing and trying to trick people into watching The Newsroom is just mean-spirited.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

botany posted:

newsroom owns

I loved the West Wing, but Newsroom is pretty trash tbh.

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TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer
Written by a former Washington Times writer, say hello to the lamest attempt at spin ever.

Khizr Khan was tricked into smearing Donald Trump

FactsAreUseless posted:

It's a bad show, do not encourage people to watch the Newsroom.

I hate-watched that show from start-to-finish, getting more and more angry each week. It all paid off with the most cringe-inducing scene in recent TV memory, that sing-along at ADA Jack McCoy's memorial service.

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