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His persistent ability to manufacture horrifying gaffes might be damaging Trump, but, even if that's the case, that's still glossing over the fact that a fascist white supremacist is the Republican candidate, and they refuse to meaningfully disavow him. This seems like a missing the forest for the trees kind of scenario.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:20
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Evil Fluffy posted:Is prison rape anywhere close to the same level of horror in Federal prisons as it is in the State prisons run by for-profit companies? Either way they never think that far ahead they just think of how they will be glorious patriot John Rambo gunning through those dumb government mooks like Tarp Man believed right up until he was shot by LEOs. I think its because so many lawyers end up in club fed that its actually way safer for inmates there, due to all the lawsuits.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:21
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Riosan posted:There is no pivot. Trump can give about one boring teleprompter speech, but then when he inevitably realizes that the news cycle isn't about him and that his fanbase finds those speeches boring, he just goes off on some batshit tangent. This has happened at least twice, last I checked. Yeah, this is what I meant. He can't do it. Even if he could, it probably wouldn't help.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:24
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Axeface posted:His persistent ability to manufacture horrifying gaffes might be damaging Trump, but, even if that's the case, that's still glossing over the fact that a fascist white supremacist is the Republican candidate, and they refuse to meaningfully disavow him. This seems like a missing the forest for the trees kind of scenario. Who the hell is shocked by that, though?
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Aug 2, 2016 03:25
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DemeaninDemon posted:Those voter suppression tactics are being owned in court at least.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:25
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Evil Fluffy posted:Either way they never think that far ahead they just think of how they will be glorious patriot John Rambo gunning through those dumb government mooks like Tarp Man believed right up until he was shot by LEOs. No, they are old and fat and scared, they aren't sacking up to do that. Every time a handful of these dudes actually do have a psychotic break and try something, nobody ever flocks to them in massive numbers to really stick it to the man. That handful just gets stomped and everyone goes back to their garage to pack up their bug out bag and ruminate on the upcoming social apocalypse.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:25
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TyrantWD posted:Unless Trump does something to trigger mass revocations of endorsements, he is not hurting himself. The people who support him don't care what he says or does. When high profile supporters walk back endorsements and signal to uneasy Trump voters that it's ok to stay home in November, that's when he will have done meaningful damage. None of this matters until Trumps garbage causes him to lose support, and so far none of his controversies have moved the polls by more than 2 points, which is really just noise. You understand that he can't actually win the election with just the die hard supporters he currently has right? Like, if his goal is to win the election and he keeps alienating people who aren't currently on board then he is actively hurting his ability to win the election?
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Aug 2, 2016 03:25
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FilthyImp posted:They're still allowing the poo poo like truncating early/mail in voting and limiting voting access times though. I don't think that's been challenged. I'm pretty sure the NC law that was just found to have discriminatory intent included limits to early voting.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:27
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Well I didn't expect such a crazy swing in the polls; however, one thing dawned on me today as I tuned out politics on my way back to work: All the horrid, terrifying poo poo that Trump says aside, I'm sick of how much of a whiny little bitch he is. Always complaining about how he's treated, how CNN is unfair, how people treat him badly. Grow the gently caress up, Donald. I know there's a disturbingly high floor to his support, but I have to think that irritation at incessant bitching is one thing that cuts across party lines.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:32
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FilthyImp posted:They're still allowing the poo poo like truncating early/mail in voting and limiting voting access times though. I don't think that's been challenged. No, that was part of the strike down. It was specifically called out by the judge.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:33
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Evil Fluffy posted:In a gently caress You of unrivaled proportions, Hilary Clinton nominates Khizr Khan to Supreme Court on Day 1 of her administration. Nah, that would be nominating Obama to the Supreme Court. Haven't heard any discussion about that in a while.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:34
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Kobayashi posted:Well I didn't expect such a crazy swing in the polls; however, one thing dawned on me today as I tuned out politics on my way back to work:
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Aug 2, 2016 03:34
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Federal judge today blocked North Dakota from tightening voter ID laws after American Indians accused it of disenfranchising them. drat. It's just like hit after hi against disenfranchisement; could these small wins mean big swing states like FL are also liable to get smacked?
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Aug 2, 2016 03:35
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Nessus posted:His supporters are also whiny, even if they do have one big legitimate thing to whine about (all the money/jobs getting away from them) along with, you know, all the horrible racist poo poo. Yeah, no disagreement there. But I'm starting to think that his whininess is what will finally turn off post-factual Republicans who currently lean Trump out of spite for Hillary or "because both are equally bad."
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Aug 2, 2016 03:39
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Violator posted:Nah, that would be nominating Obama to the Supreme Court. Haven't heard any discussion about that in a while. Michelle would blow a gasket.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:39
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Federal judge today blocked North Dakota from tightening voter ID laws after American Indians accused it of disenfranchising them. It'd probably be 4-4d in scotus. So yeah maybe.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:40
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NippleFloss posted:You understand that he can't actually win the election with just the die hard supporters he currently has right? Like, if his goal is to win the election and he keeps alienating people who aren't currently on board then he is actively hurting his ability to win the election? Trump has a lot of unwavering support from Republicans who disagree with just about everything he says, but want to defeat Hillary. People thought he alienated too many people to become the Republican nominee, then they said he alienated too many people to be competitive in the general election, but if the election were held last week we would have President Trump. Previous controversies haven't stuck, and this latest controversy isn't affecting his support any differently than those issues which everyone was certain would be Trump's breaking point.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:44
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Nessus posted:His supporters are also whiny, even if they do have one big legitimate thing to whine about (all the money/jobs getting away from them) along with, you know, all the horrible racist poo poo. On the one hand it really is a shame that there are people out there who want to find meaningful work and can't. On the other hand there are a lot of people leaving college with degrees in humanities or social sciences who can't find work either and the response from republicans is to say "maybe you should have picked a REAL major, hippie," and roll their eyes at the audacity of not being a STEMlord. So perhaps the correct response is "maybe you should have learned a real skill instead of being a coal miner," <makes jerkoff motion with his hand>.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:48
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TyrantWD posted:if the election were held last week we would have President Trump. No we wouldn't have. That isn't how the election works or what the polling means. Hillary Clinton doesn't win by default if her polling is higher either.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:48
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Am I the only one turned off by the last day of the convention? I was ready to bite the bullet and vote Hillary until it became a celebration of Hawks, soldiers, neocons, religious wackjobs and Republicans with Davis Brooks visibly masturbating on PBS. Why would I ever want to vote for that ticket?
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Aug 2, 2016 03:48
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Yes they are. He's attacking the military, one of the sacred cows of the right.Shbobdb posted:Am I the only one turned off by the last day of the convention? I was ready to bite the bullet and vote Hillary until it became a celebration of Hawks, soldiers, neocons, religious wackjobs and Republicans with Davis Brooks visibly masturbating on PBS. I'm not sure we watched the same speeches. Allen's was weird but Hillary's actual speech was very left. It also had Khan's amazing denunciation. Sarmhan fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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Have Some Flowers! posted:I think it benefits the media (ratings, eyeballs, political ad-buys) to keep this a horse race if they can. The attention will swing back. I don't know, at this point it might benefit the media more to keep focusing on Donald's fuckups until he finally has a complete meltdown in public. Just think of how spectacular that would be to watch.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:50
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Shbobdb posted:Am I the only one turned off by the last day of the convention? I was ready to bite the bullet and vote Hillary until it became a celebration of Hawks, soldiers, neocons, religious wackjobs and Republicans with Davis Brooks visibly masturbating on PBS. Somehow I get the suspicion this is not an honest post. I wonder what makes me think that?
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ImpAtom posted:Somehow I get the suspicion this is not an honest post. I wonder what makes me think that? Hillary did nothing wrong.
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Aug 2, 2016 03:56
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uPen posted:How do you convince someone to show up to vote, not vote for Trump and then vote for the Senator that endorsed him 6 months ago. FuzzySlippers posted:If Republicans are feeling a huge loss on the horizon will they turn it into a rout by abandoning Trump to save themselves? Focusing on local races doesn't mean saying "don't vote Trump" it means pouring money into mailers that feature the local candidate and don't say a word about the Donald. sarmhan posted:Same. Now-cast is still a bizarre thing to have so visible though. No, it's smart. The Poll-ercoaster is what brings clicks. Hillary moving 5 points on the NowCast drives clicks, while Hillary moving 0.5% on the future forecasts is boring as poo poo. Dr. Arbitrary posted:I won't believe it's over until Hillary swears in. I won't believe it's over until the Pretender Rebels are crushed, but I might be playing too much CK2. FuzzySlippers posted:It’s Official: There Is No Trap Donald Trump Won’t Fall For I've never heard of redstate.com before but the despair here is pretty funny. They try to be the DailyKos of the right but they're not as big. potato of destiny posted:Well, it's the first day of a brand new month, and that means it's time for Trump to burn down his entire campaign again. Let's be realistic here - the folks who organized that convention didn't do the world's greatest job. Like maybe it wasn't really their fault (I completely buy the idea that Trump was micromanaging or something) but it's not shocking that after a disastrous convention the guys who put it on got canned. SweetAsselin posted:All this talk about the system being rigged is cause for concern. With Trump whiping up his base into a frenzy and convincing them that they've been cheated and their freedom is at stake.... how does this not result in post election violence? And if there IS mass disobedience and violence... will Trump be held accountable? What happens if he's arrested? Does he become a martyr? Trump would only be liable if his speech encourages imminent lawless action. So it's quite easy for him to whip folks into a frenzy without getting into legal trouble (but then again if this election has taught us anything it's that his totally capable of going too far). speng31b posted:Yes, and his own party condemning him, even couched in softened terms or aside equal condemnations of Hillary, damages him. It is damaging him even now. Polls are showing it. Anecdote is showing it. I'm not sure what else you want. You can't say this isn't damaging him. Even beyond how much it's actually hurting him, it's hurting him because he has like 14 weeks until the election and he's the one losing. Every day that Trump isn't gaining ground with American voters he's making his job that much harder. sarmhan posted:I'm not sure we watched the same speeches. Allen's was weird but Hillary's actual speech was very left. It also had Khan's amazing denunciation. I feel like most of Allen's speech was about us sticking with our allies. It's not like he was advocating going on random offensive wars or anything. But I agree that the USA USA USA chants (to block out the Bernie chants) made it seem extra jingoistic.
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TyrantWD posted:Previous controversies haven't stuck, and this latest controversy isn't affecting his support any differently than those issues which everyone was certain would be Trump's breaking point. They've all stuck. There is a reason his ceiling has been 44% for basically the whole cycle, and that's because he keeps making it impossible for anyone but his die hard supporters to vote for him. The only time things were close it was because Hillary's numbers tanked. He's not going to win the election with 44% of the vote and he can't get more because he's constantly bogged down in gaffes and scandals. It's really weird to say "the guy who has been constantly alienating people and coincidentally is also losing in nearly every poll for the entire cycle, and has the lowest favorability rating for a candidate ever, isn't actually hurt by anything!"
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ImpAtom posted:Somehow I get the suspicion this is not an honest post. I wonder what makes me think that? I'm in a bad position. I get called a shitposter when I'm being honest and reasonable when I'm being hyperbolic. I stopped watching the convention after the "I'm a Republican for Hillary" and the "Blut und Boden" speeches. Khan's speech in between notwithstanding the point had been made.
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Shbobdb posted:I'm in a bad position. I get called a shitposter when I'm being honest and reasonable when I'm being hyperbolic. Ok if you're being honest, who was the "religious wackjob" on the last night? And I'm also curious how that person more of a "religious wackjob" than the other religious speakers on the other nights?
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Aug 2, 2016 04:00
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Me: Hey don what do you got there? Trump: Just some radical Islamic terrorism preventing wall building crooked Hillary original recipe. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/760299757206208512
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Aug 2, 2016 04:01
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Metapod posted:Me: Hey don what do you got there? Can't even pretend he might eat it with his hands like an American
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Aug 2, 2016 04:03
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Metapod posted:Me: Hey don what do you got there? How long until he posts: 
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Shbobdb posted:I'm in a bad position. I get called a shitposter when I'm being honest and reasonable when I'm being hyperbolic. Also do you not see the point of the 'republican for hillary' speeches at all? Her platform hasn't changed.
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Aug 2, 2016 04:04
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Why would you give a poo poo about how the DNC whored themselves out. It has no bearing on how Hillary governs once she's elected. She's not all of a sudden beholden to Republicans now that one spoke at the convention. When people start clutching their pearls about the political process, I just assume they're either super naive or it's their first election.
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Aug 2, 2016 04:06
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Metapod posted:Me: Hey don what do you got there? I'm honestly shocked that this photo isn't an attempt at trying to be nice to African Americans.
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Aug 2, 2016 04:07
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Trabisnikof posted:Can't even pretend he might eat it with his hands like an American Relevant! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2vtv53mQeE
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Aug 2, 2016 04:08
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That photo sure does a good job of bringing his old and white to the forefront. Also his bald. I thought that embellishment on the headcushion was his tan-n-spray leaking.
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Aug 2, 2016 04:10
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm honestly shocked that this photo isn't an attempt at trying to be nice to African Americans. I assume he assumes they'll just "get it"
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Wouldn't it be more traditional to do your photo op with food from some local favorite place to show you're down with the local scene? Or is this an "omg a billionaire eats KFC, Just Like Us!"
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