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error1 posted:According to this http://www.payscale.com/data-packages/employee-loyalty/full-list rjmccall posted:they live in seattle, their alternative is working for amazon also working for a massive hosed up bureaucracy like microsoft is probably pretty drat easy, you could just chill out and still collect a fat paycheck if you're somewhat competent at some point you get bored but have a lot of time to plan your next move, hence the longer cycles
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uncurable mlady posted:active directory certificate services suck lmao so wrong, windows ca is the best by far
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JewKiller 3000 posted:windows sucks 100% in agreement, forums poster JewKiller 3000
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Shaggar posted:lmao so wrong, windows ca is the best by far the best at being bad maybe "hmm yes I need to sign these csrs, let me just use loving powershell because there's no other goddamned way to do it like some sort of loving idiot child who needs to live in a ball"
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what? there are like a dozen ways to sign csrs and the best is to just use auto-enrollment when possible. also lol @ whining about powershell when the only way to do certs on Linux is bash.
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they're still loving that chicken
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at least it looks like they got an artist instead of ripping off that one dude's deviantart
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mishaq posted:also working for a massive hosed up bureaucracy like microsoft is probably pretty drat easy, you could just chill out and still collect a fat paycheck if you're somewhat competent microsoft hired away multiple guys who were on the cusp of being booted for incompetence here. that should tell you a lot about how easy it is to fly under the radar there. the only common feature between them was they were all super efficient at producing reams of code on a weekly basis. not good code. just a lot. broken in ways that you wouldnt notice until after it shipped.
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and that's why microsoft is cool again
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that image was sent to everybody on the windows insider email list in a whole pile of reoslutions as a wallpaper pack to celebrate windows 10 anniversary. the pack includes three folders:
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Shaggar posted:what? there are like a dozen ways to sign csrs and the best is to just use auto-enrollment when possible. you're right, I can use the lovely web portal with loving inline vbscript, the powershell cmdlets, or some awful auto-enrollment thing that only works if you're doing every single thing the Microsoft Way. what if I just want to create frontend SSL certs for ephemeral test environments? there's no good way to do it
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you shouldn't be doing that then, it doesn't match wait what company are we talking about again? apple right?
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its pretty trivial to use the powershell web access role to give a frontend for that kind of stuff. if u ain't no scrub
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Bill NYSE posted:https://vt.tumblr.com/tumblr_nxnj5kiCse1r3uvu0_480.mp4#_=_ that kid owns
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duTrieux. posted:that image was sent to everybody on the windows insider email list in a whole pile of reoslutions as a wallpaper pack to celebrate windows 10 anniversary. the pack includes three folders: why does everyone still act like file browsers can't handle spaces
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because dipshits writing scripts don't wrap their parameters in quotes
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uncurable mlady posted:you're right, I can use the lovely web portal with loving inline vbscript, the powershell cmdlets, or some awful auto-enrollment thing that only works if you're doing every single thing the Microsoft Way. what if I just want to create frontend SSL certs for ephemeral test environments? there's no good way to do it yes there is you're just too dumb to figure it out.
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and you're apparently also too dumb, since you can't explain it to him yet you keep shaggaring
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also lol that you're bitching about the easiest CA in the universe when the Linux equivalent is terrible bash garbage. "bwhuuu, right click request new cert?? this is too hard for me to figure out!!"
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go into certificate management. right click choose request new certificate. follow the wizard to create your certificate. there. ur done. now export the cert and do w/e you want w/ it. if you want to do this automatically, there are APIs for it or you can just use powershell or batch scripts. its not hard in the least and beats the Linux poo poo by miles.
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thanks for the useful and informative post, too bad you had to be a shithead for 2 pages first
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I will ding MS for not giving you a default CSR template with AD out of the box so you have to figure it out yourself but its still way way way better than trying to do it in OpenSSL
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JewKiller 3000 posted:thanks for the useful and informative post, too bad you had to be a shithead for 2 pages first theres no way he didn't know how to do it already if he setup a windows CA. its impossible to setup without understanding how to request certificates. hes just being a turd whining about trying to find the dumbest most Linux way to do it cause that's what hes used to.
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:I will ding MS for not giving you a default CSR template with AD out of the box so you have to figure it out yourself but its still way way way better than trying to do it in OpenSSL I think the biggest thing is the default web server template still generates 1k keys, but if you're setting up a CA infrastructure without reading about how to do it right then ur gonna make other mistakes and the 1k keys will only be part of your problem.
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also the certificate enrollment web service is just SOAP so you could write your own client and do certificate requests and maybe even auto-enrollment for Linux if you wanted to, but that would mean actually writing code which is against open sores policies. open sores is about using what other people have written and bitching if it doesn't work.
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mishaq posted:also working for a massive hosed up bureaucracy like microsoft is probably pretty drat easy, you could just chill out and still collect a fat paycheck if you're somewhat competent one of my new coworkers was working at microsoft for a few years and he said he only even went to work 1 day a week for the last 8 months and hardly anyone noticed
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Shaggar posted:I think the biggest thing is the default web server template still generates 1k keys, but if you're setting up a CA infrastructure without reading about how to do it right then ur gonna make other mistakes and the 1k keys will only be part of your problem. even if you're just doing a CSR to someone else's CA certmgr will let you feed it a bunch of garbage that it should never be allowing in this day and age with the out of box defaults. its up to the CA to validate and understand that and yeah, if you're doing your own CA then understand the poo poo out of it, but MS is making cert requests way more difficult than than should be. The wizard in IIS is an example of how they should be handling it (if anything under 2048bit disabled for you) to make it easier for people who don't know poo poo about DSA/RSA, export and archiving policy, extensions and all that to get going but it doesn't support SANs right now which is super common and should be encouraged with wildcart certs coming under a lot of scrutiny and getting killed off by many CAs
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Linux computer/user gets kerb ticket from AD Send kerb ticket to certificate enrollment service for auth Request cert using auto enroll template for user/computer. install returned certificate in wherever the gently caress Linux stores certs. probably would work too well, but you wouldn't use bash to do it so this is a no-go.
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:even if you're just doing a CSR to someone else's CA certmgr will let you feed it a bunch of garbage that it should never be allowing in this day and age with the out of box defaults. its up to the CA to validate and understand that and yeah, if you're doing your own CA then understand the poo poo out of it, but MS is making cert requests way more difficult than than should be. The wizard in IIS is an example of how they should be handling it (if anything under 2048bit disabled for you) to make it easier for people who don't know poo poo about DSA/RSA, export and archiving policy, extensions and all that to get going but it doesn't support SANs right now which is super common and should be encouraged with wildcart certs coming under a lot of scrutiny and getting killed off by many CAs its ironically pretty Linux of them in that the defaults are all wrong and instead of fixing it they just give you documentation on how to do it right. except the documentation on how to do it right is actually good so I guess that parts not very Linux.
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yeah, no qualms on the documentation it is p.deece but I pay MS to do the upfront thinking on this poo poo for me so I only need to make adjustments for specific requirements. it stinks of a lazy linux project. HERES A MILLION FIELDS. MOST OF THEM YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT, BUT WE WILL PRESENT THEM ALL EQUALLY BECAUSE: gently caress YOU
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fart simpson posted:one of my new coworkers was working at microsoft for a few years and he said he only even went to work 1 day a week for the last 8 months and hardly anyone noticed there are several people in my office that come by only once every week or two. i have no idea what they do, but i assume they are on customer premises or doing remote work.
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fart simpson posted:one of my new coworkers was working at microsoft for a few years and he said he only even went to work 1 day a week for the last 8 months and hardly anyone noticed owns
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Bill NYSE posted:https://vt.tumblr.com/tumblr_nxnj5kiCse1r3uvu0_480.mp4#_=_ This is the new Anniversary edition Windows Hello biometric logon procedure, you better get used to it
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Endless Mike posted:assuming ms is even remotely competent, getting updates from other computers should be fine since it should still check a hash from the home server before installing anything. and as we all know, Microsoft hashes have never been collided to deliver state-sponsored malware eschaton fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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error1 posted:This is the new Anniversary edition Windows Hello biometric logon procedure, you better get used to it CORTANA MUST WATCH YOU WRITHE TO PROCEED.
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mishaq posted:also working for a massive hosed up bureaucracy like microsoft is probably pretty drat easy, you could just chill out and still collect a fat paycheck if you're somewhat competent it's not that kind of massive hosed up bureaucracy it's the kind where everyone is scheming behind each others' backs if you're somewhat competent you need to put that to use advancing your interests because otherwise you'll wind up someone else's pawn
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i installed a.... uwp(??) app today. voluntarily and on purpose: facebook messenger.
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thindows 10
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