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Kurtzman the Tronk 2009 and Into Dankness writer is producing the new shw?
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skasion posted:This is a weird consequence of how the movies are marketed: basically the producers are worried that if teens and twentysomethings can't relate to the characters, no one will watch the movie (which is probably true enough). Which is why Quinto still plays Spock like a manchild despite being older than Nimoy was when he played the character for the first time. There's been a shift in culture where people treat you like a child until you're like 50 or something. I don't think people would buy 20somethings acting with even a hint of gravitas these days, which upsets me.
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Aug 2, 2016 23:22
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Star Trek Beyond was good. I want more Star Trek like Beyond. Really makes ya sad for the passing of Anton Yelchin though, because goddamn did he shine when paired up with Chris Pine. Also, I really liked Jaylah. If she replaces Yelchin in the crew then I'll be ok with that.
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Aug 2, 2016 23:24
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Fister Roboto posted:I'd say more like post-Cold War Afghanistan. So what you're saying is that the Antwerp Conference bombing was actually committed by a Vedek?
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Aug 2, 2016 23:25
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AndyElusive posted:Also, I really liked Jaylah. If she replaces Yelchin in the crew then I'll be ok with that. I really like that she wasn't the cliched personality they implied in the trailers, but rather actually helpful and nice.
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Aug 2, 2016 23:29
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I liked that she didn't have to have a romance plot with either Kirk or Scotty.
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Aug 3, 2016 00:01
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I don't have a problem with Jaylah replacing Chekov since they have pretty much the same (very thin) character of a spunky foreign geek with weird diction and an accent. If we're adding more ladies to the bridge crew I'd prefer Rand, but take what you can get I suppose.
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Aug 3, 2016 00:10
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Gonz posted:I was discussing this with a few people at work during lunch the other day, and most of them didn't even know there was a new show coming up. When they heard that it was on some sort of half-assed CBS streaming service, they seemed even less enthusiastic. They've never had a good track record when it comes to figuring out how to handle genre shows. I will also note that up until they launched this CBS All Access thing they said they had no plans to do anything with ST on TV, even though this is a golden age of genre television and nerd stuff like Game of Thrones and Walking Dead are the biggest shows on TV. If they had anyone decent running the network they sure as hell could make a quality ST series if they wanted.
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Aug 3, 2016 00:13
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Star Trek 2017 will succeed and profit off the back of the Netflix international deal whilst CBS squanders it within the US.
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Aug 3, 2016 00:49
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They should have just tossed it on Showtime. It could exist very easily there and they could still promote OTT since you can subscribe to Showtime ala carte.
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Aug 3, 2016 01:45
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CBS won't give much of a poo poo about Netflix success if DSC doesn't drive subs for their bloated streaming monstrosity. This is a one season show, calling it now. Maybe one full season and a half order for a second if we're lucky.
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Aug 3, 2016 02:01
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skasion posted:I don't have a problem with Jaylah replacing Chekov since they have pretty much the same (very thin) character of a spunky foreign geek with weird diction and an accent. If we're adding more ladies to the bridge crew I'd prefer Rand, but take what you can get I suppose. Like they unfreeze Ayn Rand? Far out.
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Aug 3, 2016 02:16
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Arglebargle III posted:Like they unfreeze Ayn Rand? Far out. No no, Rand Paul.
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Aug 3, 2016 02:21
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Yeoman Rand, you ninnies. The whole Yeoman thing seemed weird anyway.
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Aug 3, 2016 02:23
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Big Mean Jerk posted:CBS won't give much of a poo poo about Netflix success if DSC doesn't drive subs for their bloated streaming monstrosity. This is a one season show, calling it now. Maybe one full season and a half order for a second if we're lucky. Eh, they've said that the International Netflix deal will bring it to direct profit even disregarding CBS All Access, so they wouldn't have any reason to actually cancel it if that situation continues. It's not like ads where you juggle a timeslot's value and alternative shows - it's a pretty straight money spent < money earned. On the other hand, CBS is so incompetent, who knows. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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Aug 3, 2016 02:55
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Timby posted:To be honest, I think it's more that Quinto doesn't have much range as an actor. He was basically cast as Spock because the Internet created an uproar over how much of a resemblance he bore to young Nimoy. He doesn't have much capacity for subtlety and a lot of his inflection is closer to Tim Russ' Tuvok than anything else. How big a factor was Quinto's role on Heroes in his casting for Spock?
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Aug 3, 2016 04:25
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:How big a factor was Quinto's role on Heroes in his casting for Spock? 95%
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Aug 3, 2016 04:27
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:How big a factor was Quinto's role on Heroes in his casting for Spock? Pretty much the only factor.
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Aug 3, 2016 04:39
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Payndz posted:This is basically how Kirk gets and keeps command in the new films. Because the writers are either dumbasses who believe that someone being told "you're in charge until I get back" means they instantly get promoted from (ungraduated) cadet to captain and stay there, or are contemptuous enough of their audience to think they believe that. C) It's a narrative shortcut you nerds.
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Aug 3, 2016 06:00
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Payndz posted:This is basically how Kirk gets and keeps command in the new films. Because the writers are either dumbasses who believe that someone being told "you're in charge until I get back" means they instantly get promoted from (ungraduated) cadet to captain and stay there, or are contemptuous enough of their audience to think they believe that. 
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Aug 3, 2016 06:04
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Maxwell Lord posted:C) It's a narrative shortcut you nerds. It's not, because there's no reason for them to be cadets in the first place other than wanting a hot young boy band cast.
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Aug 3, 2016 06:08
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Arglebargle III posted:Like they unfreeze Ayn Rand? Far out. I would be so into Star Trek meets Ayn Rand's Adventures in Wonderland. Can we make that happen? 
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Aug 3, 2016 06:18
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WickedHate posted:It's not, because there's no reason for them to be cadets in the first place other than wanting a hot young boy band cast. Yeah there's no dramatic interest in starting off at the bottom rung. The whole goddamn point of the movie is that it's Kirk's first voyage and not his 127th.
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Aug 3, 2016 06:26
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There's dramatic interest in a lot of things, that doesn't mean every franchise should do every one.
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Aug 3, 2016 06:37
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WickedHate posted:There's dramatic interest in a lot of things, that doesn't mean every franchise should do every one. Nonetheless that is the story they chose to tell. What makes a movie good is not what it is about but how it is about it. The point is extra scenes explaining how Kirk got a real promotion and not just a field one would have been a waste of time because most people don't care.
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Aug 3, 2016 07:01
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In the new films, Starfleet is consistently portrayed as a sort of informal Space Patrol instead of an organized military force. They give Kirk the Enterprise because Pike says so in the same way a high-level manager might name his replacement.
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Aug 3, 2016 07:25
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I'm working my way through TNG and I just got to the one in season 2 where they loving mind wipe a child because Data violated the poo poo out of the Prime Directive. Why does the Federation have mind wiping advanced enough to work on aliens?
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Aug 3, 2016 07:38
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Echophonic posted:I'm working my way through TNG and I just got to the one in season 2 where they loving mind wipe a child because Data violated the poo poo out of the Prime Directive. Why does the Federation have mind wiping advanced enough to work on aliens? They use it again somewhat more egregiously later. Mind wiping people just seems to be part of the regular Star-fleet playbook.
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Aug 3, 2016 07:49
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remusclaw posted:They use it again somewhat more egregiously later. Mind wiping people just seems to be part of the regular Star-fleet playbook. the old "Sonic-Roofie"
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Aug 3, 2016 07:50
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Echophonic posted:I'm working my way through TNG and I just got to the one in season 2 where they loving mind wipe a child because Data violated the poo poo out of the Prime Directive. Why does the Federation have mind wiping advanced enough to work on aliens? The reason for it was probably to cover up prime directive violations, and probably a piquant tee-hee over parallels to modern UFO reports then current.
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Aug 3, 2016 08:02
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remusclaw posted:They use it again somewhat more egregiously later. Mind wiping people just seems to be part of the regular Star-fleet playbook. Later on they imply that short-term memory wiping was less regular Starfleet playbook and more Dr Pulaski's party trick. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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Aug 3, 2016 08:07
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Nessus posted:They probably just made a machine that reproduced a Betazoid technique. Hell, I'm imagining some Section 31 squad of MiB Betazoids they call in for when things go south. "Excuse me, can I have everyone's attention for a moment?" <betazoid psychic flash>
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Aug 3, 2016 08:13
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The_Doctor posted:Hell, I'm imagining some Section 31 squad of MiB Betazoids they call in for when things go south.
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Aug 3, 2016 08:36
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Isolinear Chip drink coasters are now something that exists. http://technabob.com/blog/2016/08/02/star-trek-isolinear-chip-coasters/
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Aug 3, 2016 09:37
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Payndz posted:This is basically how Kirk gets and keeps command in the new films. Because the writers are either dumbasses who believe that someone being told "you're in charge until I get back" means they instantly get promoted from (ungraduated) cadet to captain and stay there, or are contemptuous enough of their audience to think they believe that. "You're the man of the house until I get back from this business trip, son!" *dad dies in a plane crash* *next day: 13-year-old boy doing taxes, working at insurance firm*
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Aug 3, 2016 09:37
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Nessus posted:Logically speaking the Federation's gotta have some kind of a Psi Corps, and Troi would have actually been improved, probably, if she was the psi agent on board. Which HAPPENED to include, primarily, counseling and therapy, BUT ALSO some of the stuff she did in S6 and S7 when they put her in the uniform. Telepathy's troubling as hell from a moral point of view and they always skipped right over it and just went 'whatever yeah it's fine', it's a pity.
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Aug 3, 2016 09:48
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So does Wyatt Miller ever pop up again to confirm my Troi x Riker fanfictions or is he going to die with the Tarellians?
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Aug 3, 2016 11:38
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MikeJF posted:Telepathy's troubling as hell from a moral point of view and they always skipped right over it and just went 'whatever yeah it's fine', it's a pity. Lwaxana sees Picard over the viewscreen, and the first thing she does is comb his mind for 'naughty thoughts about me'.
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Aug 3, 2016 11:44
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Nazareth posted:So does Wyatt Miller ever pop up again to confirm my Troi x Riker fanfictions or is he going to die with the Tarellians? Never. The episode is utterly skippable, unless you want to see the introduction of Mr. Homn (and the only time he ever talks.)
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Aug 3, 2016 12:56
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You know, one of the smartest things the writers ever did was invent "quad" for a unit of storage and didn't explain it beyond that. Otherwise, I'm sure all references to data storage would be hilariously dated right now. I remember in the novelization of ST:II, they were trying to figure out what to leave Khan instead of the Genesis data. On of the scientists had a game that they had developed that they were going to dump into the main computers. It was mentioned that the game was 50mb and the other characters were astonished, "Christ on a crutch, the program that ate Saturn!" bull3964 fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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Aug 3, 2016 14:02
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