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Ignatius M. Meen posted:I can't see the GOP getting remotely closer to winning the presidential race by dumping Trump at this point. Has this sort of thing even ever happened? The closest thing we've seen was probably 1968, where LBJ's decision to not run and RFK's assassination turned the DNC into such a shitshow that the party was hamstrung in the general. And that was just a case of the presumptive nominee getting shifted around a bunch. It's difficult to imagine that the GOP could pull off changing the actual nominee after the convention is over and having that improve their chances. It's also going to allow Trump to slam the party repeatedly for being cowards after he gets booted. They lose, and Trump can totally claim the historical counterfactual where he would have won instead.
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Lid posted:Apparently OneAmerica is an even gurther right than Fox station that airs Trump rallies in full. How has yhis beautiful thing been missed for so long? I like to call them the Onannism network, since they're kind of high on their own supply.
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Aug 3, 2016 13:30
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Slate Action posted:If Trump ever trash talks the Jews I think that might actually finish him off Why would Jews be any different than anyone else? There are only two people Trump will never trash talk. Himself, and Ivanka. Everyone else is but a moment of pique from getting both barrels of the Trump Rage.
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Gyges posted:Why would Jews be any different than anyone else? There are only two people Trump will never trash talk. Himself, and Ivanka. Everyone else is but a moment of pique from getting both barrels of the Trump Rage. tbf, his whole family/brand is probably off limits, because trash talking any of them is essentially trash talking himself
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His children are off limits, yeah, but could he be baited into poo poo-talking his ex-wives?
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Aug 3, 2016 13:35
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Trump has directly offended "the jews" already more times this campaign than points on a sheriff's star. Nothing matters.
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Gyges posted:Why would Jews be any different than anyone else? There are only two people Trump will never trash talk. Himself, and Ivanka. Everyone else is but a moment of pique from getting both barrels of the Trump Rage. Probably because it's the only thing separating him from completing the Nazi image. That and it might show indirect support of Muslims in the eyes of the idiots he has supporting him.
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I wonder if the Morning Joe nukes thing is legit and why Scarborough has been sitting on that information so long if true. That's like, beyond the pale.
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straight up brolic posted:I wonder if the Morning Joe nukes thing is legit and why Scarborough has been sitting on that information so long if true. That's like, beyond the pale.
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greatn posted:I can't watch video, can someone summarize? Scarborough says that, months ago, Trump asked three times during a security briefing about nuclear weapons. One of the asks was "if we have them, why can't we use them?" The panel is stunned into silence by this
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CelestialScribe posted:I was put on probation for suggesting that Trump's election would lead to nuclear war. That makes me think that perhaps one of Hillary's priorities should be instituting some sort of sanity check in the use of nuclear weapons. Because given the state of the republican party and the stupidity of the electorate, someone with a blase attitude towards nukes getting the presidency seems inevitable.
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emdash posted:Scarborough says that, months ago, Trump asked three times during a security briefing about nuclear weapons. One of the asks was "if we have them, why can't we use them?" Hopefully Mr. Trump has watched War Games at least once since then.
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Gravel Gravy posted:Hopefully Mr. Trump has watched War Games at least once since then. Where The Wind Blows would be my choice for required Trump viewing. Then if he's still not impressed Threads.
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emdash posted:Scarborough says that, months ago, Trump asked three times during a security briefing about nuclear weapons. One of the asks was "if we have them, why can't we use them?"
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emdash posted:Scarborough says that, months ago, Trump asked three times during a security briefing about nuclear weapons. One of the asks was "if we have them, why can't we use them?" Going to guess the three questions. 1. How many nukes do we have? 2. When do I get to nuke somebody? 3. Never? If we have them, why can't we use them?
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Pet Rock Band posted:Trump has directly offended "the jews" already more times this campaign than points on a sheriff's star. Nothing matters. He's been dogwhistling to white supremacists and neo nazis for the whole campaign. http://fortune.com/donald-trump-white-supremacist-genocide/
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FactsAreUseless posted:Because Joe Scarborough is a hack and an idiot. MSNBC aren't exactly a bastion of great reporting but Scarborough has been the worst thing about them for years. 
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CelestialScribe posted:I was put on probation for suggesting that Trump's election would lead to nuclear war. God drat it just chaps my rear end to see people like this, who spent the entirety of the primary tossing this demagogue softballs and not asking the first loving follow-up question to his ludicrous responses, suddenly act like they are oh so serious and just completely mortified and look out Republicans, you're really loving up now! I've had this theory since 2012 that there are quite a few conservatives who just have some sort of mental block around the idea that nowadays we can actually go back in time and see what people have said about things before this exact, present moment through the arcane wizardry of "video." Morning Joe during the primary: Oh ho ho ho Donald you're such a roguish scamp and so handsome and funny. Please, tell us again about how successful you are! Morning Joe today: Oh God how can anyone think this man is a successful handsome roguish scamp he's so dangerous  Republicans how can you make this mistake, don't you know anything?!?!
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emdash posted:Scarborough says that, months ago, Trump asked three times during a security briefing about nuclear weapons. One of the asks was "if we have them, why can't we use them?" Why did none of the panel come forth with this information?
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There's a lot more money and better hours in manipulating the news than reporting it. It's one big reason that news services like CNN are so bad at their jobs. Combine that with lots of pressure to be "unbiased" and America's inability to understand what that means and it's clear why the media handled Trump so badly.
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Radish posted:Why did none of the panel come forth with this information? He means the panel on the TV show.
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There are also the semi-persistent rumors that President Obama wants to declare a no-first-use nuclear stance for the U.S. Besides the fact that this (and no-launch-on-warning) are good ideas in and of themselves, imagine the spectacle of a major debate on nuclear strategy with Trump as a participant.
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Crow Jane posted:His children are off limits, yeah, but could he be baited into poo poo-talking his ex-wives? Probably not. They know more about him than anybody and he would have a lot more to lose from an exchange of dirty laundry. It would also mess up his relationship with his kids. As a more practical consideration, he places enormous value on his brand, so I'm sure his divorce settlements include non-disparagement clauses that would likely bar him from talking poo poo about them.
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FactsAreUseless posted:There's a lot more money and better hours in manipulating the news than reporting it. It's one big reason that news services like CNN are so bad at their jobs. Combine that with lots of pressure to be "unbiased" and America's inability to understand what that means and it's clear why the media handled Trump so badly.
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Radish posted:Why did none of the panel come forth with this information?
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Slate Action posted:If Trump ever trash talks the Jews I think that might actually finish him off Give him a week
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Josh Lyman posted:Joe has been anti-Trump since the beginning, so maybe he's revealing this information when it can do the most damage. I think he was definitely waiting to reveal this at a time it would do the most damage, and I'm pretty sure Joe is sitting on more stuff ready to drop on Trump at periodic intervals. I think that's true for a lot of anti-Trump people.
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JohnCompany posted:There are also the semi-persistent rumors that President Obama wants to declare a no-first-use nuclear stance for the U.S. Besides the fact that this (and no-launch-on-warning) are good ideas in and of themselves, imagine the spectacle of a major debate on nuclear strategy with Trump as a participant. He would say he'd glass the hell out of Iran or lmao India or Pakistan or something and his base would loving eat it up. Then those counties would condemn him and "THEM NUCLEAR POWERS AND MUSLIMS WANT HILARY BECAUSE SHES WEAK." And his base would eat it the hell up
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Arrgytehpirate posted:He would say he'd glass the hell out of Iran or lmao India or Pakistan or something and his base would loving eat it up. Then those counties would condemn him and "THEM NUCLEAR POWERS AND MUSLIMS WANT HILARY BECAUSE SHES WEAK." Yeah, but no-one cares about his base. Only about his ability to somehow get his tiny hands on an extra 5-10% of the vote besides them.
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Mahoning posted:He means the panel on the TV show. I know. If I was on a panel where a major candidate didn't understand the horror of nuclear war I would not be tight with that information.
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Roflan posted:That makes me think that perhaps one of Hillary's priorities should be instituting some sort of sanity check in the use of nuclear weapons. Because given the state of the republican party and the stupidity of the electorate, someone with a blase attitude towards nukes getting the presidency seems inevitable. I blame Cold War propaganda on a lot of the idiocy we get from Boomers on the use of nuclear weapons.
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I pray that should he attempt to first strike the military coups him.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I pray that should he attempt to first strike the military coups him. Would never happen. They're trained to obey.
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I feel like we are living in the Dead Zone movie but Trump is both Martin Sheen and Christopher Walken's characters.
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Buzzfeed: Trump stance on nukes proves he is most 80s candidate
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CelestialScribe posted:Would never happen. They're trained to obey. I think even the most hardcore troop isn't pro nuke. Like, yeah we could probably nuke anyone not a nuclear power and not get nuked back but I know there would be consequences I just can't imagine what they'd be.
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Please god, let Trump start a war sitting members of the House and Senate. Nothing would warm the cockles of my cold, dead liberal heart like seeing Paul Ryan get primaried.
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