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Trabisnikof posted:What has to be going through their heads as they chant "HATE WILL WIN" because I can't imagine a more disgusting and soul crushing moment than that. I think only one person chanted "HATE WILL WIN".....then everybody drowns that person out with "HATE WON'T WIN" which isn't entirely clear the first time you watch the video.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:What would happen if someone like Paul Ryan. Not Paul Ryan specifically because he's a giant pussy but a high ranking republican came out and said they were voting for Hillary? Would there be any consequence besides them getting primaried? Well a sitting House GOP member (the one from Syracuse, NY I think) said he's voting for Hillary.
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I wish Twitter would ban Trump because lmao that would be the best meltdown ever
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Kilroy posted:Arrgytehpirate's opinion on the use of the atom bomb in WW2 is probably not all that well thought out by him personally, but it's not exactly an unusual opinion to have. Even a lot of Japanese are sympathetic to it, but honestly the way the Japanese relate to the atomic bombings is sort of weird anyway. At the very least it was a war crime in a war filled with war crimes. Where it lands on the scale of how bad a war crime is, I'm not going to bother posting here since who loving cares anyway - nowadays once nukes are in the air all belligerents have effectively lost. (And yes, that includes first-striking a nation without nuclear weapons since weakening the nuclear taboo is not worth any gain the attacking nation could hope to achieve, even from the standpoint of naked self-interest.) To put the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima in perspective, it had about 3% of the yield of a single W88 warhead (15kT vs. 475kT.) Each Trident D-5 missile has 8 of those W88 warheads. Each Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine has 24 of those missiles. At this point we're already up 6,080 Hiroshimas on one boat. We have 14 of those submarines. This constitutes about HALF our active arsenal of nuclear warheads. 
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axeil posted:Well a sitting House GOP member (the one from Syracuse, NY I think) said he's voting for Hillary. He's a retiring back bencher. The most prominent defections from the GOP so far have been highly placed party operatives and former GOP staffers.
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I'm going to laugh when the brand new 400m talking point gets shut down. They try to find new dirt on the Dems and either A. Trump goes and say something he shouldn't, or B. it's completely proven wrong.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I wish Twitter would ban Trump because lmao that would be the best meltdown ever Not a chance, he's great for business. Milo only got kicked because he was bad press.
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sean10mm posted:There is really nothing to prevent another Trump from doing the exact same thing in the next Republican primary. As long as there is a) a solid 1/3 of the GOP primary electorate that will vote for pure evil, and b) the primary field takes a long time to narrow down from 6-12 shcmucks who are all convinced they're the savior of True Conservatism, a racist-populist candidate can easily hijack the whole thing again. I mean theoretically if it starts to happen they could get all the establishment candidates in a room after New Hampshire and drill it into their heads for hours that if the losers don't all drop out now they're gonna elect the unstable demagogue, but I kept waiting for them to do that this time around and nope they squabbled with each other until they went broke one by one. Really though all they'd need to do is switch to a strongly proportional system like the Democrats have instead of awarding all the delegates to the guy who got 30% of the vote.
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zoux posted:I know what they're there for but if they are pinning their hopes on those two being able to appeal to the better angels of Donald Trump, good loving luck. The comparison isn't entirely accurate because Newt and Rudy would still actually just be addicts, but that's the gist. Anyway it's not going to work because Trump is going to hijack the intervention and get Newt and Rudy to turn on Reince.
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https://twitter.com/alexis_levinson/status/760854711377408000 Full round up from the Kansas City Star. Nice if this was the start of a nationwide trend but I ain't holding my breath.
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emdash posted:Scarborough says that, months ago, Trump asked three times during a security briefing about nuclear weapons. One of the asks was "if we have them, why can't we use them?" You'd think a bunch of talking heads would be used to the whole 'just asking questions' thing
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On the one hand it would be good if the GOP could become a functioning party again because I'm not keen on living in the one-party state, plus if they really implode completely it will just pull the Democrats to the right. However on the other hand if they're just going to go back to being the party built by Atwater and Rove then what was the loving point?
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iospace posted:I'm going to laugh when the brand new 400m talking point gets shut down. They try to find new dirt on the Dems and either A. Trump goes and say something he shouldn't, or B. it's completely proven wrong. I mean, it was announced back in January when it actually happened. We're only just now getting specifics of how the payment happened.
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iospace posted:I'm going to laugh when the brand new 400m talking point gets shut down. They try to find new dirt on the Dems and either A. Trump goes and say something he shouldn't, or B. it's completely proven wrong. The what
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Kilroy posted:On the one hand it would be good if the GOP could become a functioning party again because I'm not keen on living in the one-party state, plus if they really implode completely it will just pull the Democrats to the right. However on the other hand if they're just going to go back to being the party built by Atwater and Rove then what was the loving point? I feel like a (hypothetical) democratic majority that could turn back the clock on some of the republican structural advantages with Citizens United and gerrymandering wouldn't hurt.
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Today in Trump, he testified to Congress in 2005 and tweeted in 2012 that asbestos would have saved the WTC.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/Reince/status/760858723107606528 They're bitching about us getting spies freed by giving Iran their own money that we already promised them.
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CNN was running a chyron about a DC transit cop being accused of aiding ISIS. Not sure if it is a major story (yet?) but sounds like something Trump could latch onto
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Also I'm gonna laugh at the first poster that implies that Clinton doesn't want to overturn CU to grind republicans into dust.
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I'm quite cynical about politics so not even in my wildest dreams did I think I'd see the right wing assholes of America eating their own like this. They've escalated up to Claim Jumper size portions of their own and they appear to have room left over for dessert. It's like right wing assholes have transformed overnight into endless soup and breadsticks and the line goes out the door and around the block.
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emdash posted:CNN was running a chyron about a DC transit cop being accused of aiding ISIS. Not sure if it is a major story (yet?) but sounds like something Trump could latch onto Lots of eminently latchable stuff going on in the last couple of days that's been utterly buried by Trump incompetence. Hillary Clinton literally told Fox News on Sunday that Comey completely cleared her of any wrong doing.
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ImpAtom posted:They're not going to push Trump out. They're going to beg him to shut up. He may or may not listen depending on how self-aware he is about how badly the past few days have gone. This is awesome because Trump is exactly the type of guy who responds well to any sort of criticism.
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zoux posted:Lots of eminently latchable stuff going on in the last couple of days that's been utterly buried by Trump incompetence. Hillary Clinton literally told Fox News on Sunday that Comey completely cleared her of any wrong doing. yeah true, i realized this shortly after I wrote it 
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Bip Roberts posted:Also I'm gonna laugh at the first poster that implies that Clinton doesn't want to overturn CU to grind republicans into dust. She was totally lying about that amendment thing! Money matters m o re than policy!
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zoux posted:Lots of eminently latchable stuff going on in the last couple of days that's been utterly buried by Trump incompetence. Hillary Clinton literally told Fox News on Sunday that Comey completely cleared her of any wrong doing. He did, technically.
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Being sloppy by FBI standards isnt a crime
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:She was totally lying about that amendment thing! Money matters m o re than policy! If she really hates CU why is she letting her SuperPAC buy her a bunch of ads??? Sanders proved you don't need a SuperPAC to win!
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Trabisnikof posted:If she really hates CU why is she letting her SuperPAC buy her a bunch of ads??? Did he? He also had a SuperPAC
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It's pretty funny that Morning Joe went from the top Trump cheerleaders to making GBS threads on him daily for the same reasons a few months later.. Someone has a boo boo on their feelings.
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Trabisnikof posted:What has to be going through their heads as they chant "HATE WILL WIN" because I can't imagine a more disgusting and soul crushing moment than that. Hatred is a powerful and addictive feeling and our country has let it flow through us for generations.
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Clinton's probably pretty blase about the email thing because she knows she can get away with it. Either that or she really has a blind spot on it because after Comey's statement a little bit of contrition would've probably been a good move. I mean I know the emails are not significant at all, but on Earth-2 she'd need a way to put it to bed somehow.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Today in Trump, he testified to Congress in 2005 and tweeted in 2012 that asbestos would have saved the WTC. As the son of a 9/11 emergency worker 
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Clinton talking about the emails + weak GDP numbers + DNC resignations + Iran should make this an excellent news cycle for the Republicans. Alas, Trump. e: VVV resignations, sorry. I've corrected.
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Slate Action posted:Clinton talking about the emails + weak GDP numbers + DNC firings should make this an excellent news cycle for the Republicans. Alas, Trump. Was anyone fired at the DNC?
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If not for asbestos, what made the 9/11 wreckage so horribly unhealthy? Just all the atomized fiberglass insulation and stuff? e: googled it. Looks like fiberglass, trace amounts of asbestos, and carcinogenic hydrocarbons consistent with the exhaust of a slowly smoldering fire.
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mcmagic posted:It's pretty funny that Morning Joe went from the top Trump cheerleaders to making GBS threads on him daily for the same reasons a few months later.. Someone has a boo boo on their feelings.
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Manafort is literally on Fox News saying the $400 million was a hostage ransom and the media is lying.Goatman Sacks posted:If not for asbestos, what made the 9/11 wreckage so horribly unhealthy? Just all the atomized fiberglass insulation and stuff? There was a lot of asbestos installed and torn out so it still would have ended up in the wreckage.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:The what The US shipped 400 million USD to Iran as part of a payment of a deal made before the Iranian revolution, since the nuclear treaty they have includes unfreezing of assets. This was done at around the same time that the American sailors that were arrested some months back for violating Iranian waters were finally released from their internment. The WSJ published an article insinuating that this was proof of Obama paying Iran for the release of what were effectively hostages. This could well have been a thing that might put the Democrats on the defensive for a news cycle because nuance is dead, but alas, Trump.
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SLOSifl posted:I occasionally dip into Morning Joe before work, and enjoyed watching Scarborough's transition in real time. At some point he passed up Mika as far as outright disgust for Trump goes which is mind blowing. It's probably because the train he's hitched to went off the rails years ago and is now heading for an orphanage at full speed. There is no way it's that noble. It's definitely from some petty personal slight.
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