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Dark_Swordmaster posted:The truck should turn on if you just hit the accelerator. I don't even have it bound on my 360 pad, I just tap that and the truck starts. That's actually an option, you can turn it on and off if you want.
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dupersaurus posted:I ended up making my own, I can look into sharing it. Oh, that'd be awesome! My Steam info, if that helps, is here (any other goons reading this who want to add me, feel free  ):http://steamcommunity.com/id/robot_cousin
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Panch posted:Yeah next time I am super bored I'm going to see if I can find a video explaining driving a truck and more importantly why you're doing the things. So many tutorials seem like just how to get through the gears, they don't tell me when I should be shifting or explain, I guess the "flow" of it other than "clutch, next gear." Like I mentioned, I wish I could find something starting from the perspective of "you know how to drive stick in a car, here's the differences in theory and practice to a heavy haul truck." If you ever find such a thing, post it. I've been driving a stick car for the last 19 years so it's second nature but I don't actually know the differences in an Eaton-Fuller all that well. As far as swappability, it's stupidly easy to swap, although I guess if you did it TOO often and overtightened the set screw you might kind of screw it up a bit. As long as you're careful it shouldn't be an issue though.
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This channel is pretty cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvAo97UUqVU
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Anyone have a good recommendation for a Steam controller keybinding? The top two user-made ones don't really do anything for me (the top one doesn't even allow you to turn on the truck, but maybe I'm just missing something?), and I figured you guys would know. And no, I don't care if you hate the Steam controller, I don't. 
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I didn't forget about posting mine, just haven't had a chance to get to it. I'll try this evening.
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Panch posted:Yeah next time I am super bored I'm going to see if I can find a video explaining driving a truck and more importantly why you're doing the things. So many tutorials seem like just how to get through the gears, they don't tell me when I should be shifting or explain, I guess the "flow" of it other than "clutch, next gear." Like I mentioned, I wish I could find something starting from the perspective of "you know how to drive stick in a car, here's the differences in theory and practice to a heavy haul truck." The basics are a rigs power band is quite narrow. When accelerating you want to keep the truck in that power band as much as possible to maximize RPMs and gearing. A semi's transmission is not synchronized and to shift smoothly drivers either double clutch or "float" the transmission. Floating is shifting the trans without use of the clutch. The basic idea being on up shifting if the shafts from the motor and trans are at the right speeds the shifter will pop into gear. This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hdqg2g7RYg demonstrates some of the power band and gearing skipping with an 18 speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjh23YTfNhQ is another video about shifting, but more about floating also with an 18 speed and talks a bit more about some of the technical reasons for some of the stuff drivers do what they do. The 2nd one is longer, but really informative. Edit: And as a just personal favorite here's a Detroit twin stick doing things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU3gZGUInd4 rex rabidorum vires fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Aug 3, 2016 |
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Thanks for this, will definitely check these out! I haven't been floating in ATS/ETS, I assume it is supported? I have ground my gears before so that would lead me to believe it's possible if the failure to do it correctly is in. It is difficult to go between this, dirt rally, and real life. 18 speed to slam shifting to oh god why am I jerking around so much. 
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I haven't messed with ETS2 in a while. Is there a way/mod to force all trucks into magical 6-speed gearing so I could use my G27 box without using a bunch of modifier keys? I know that wouldn't be realistic, but I don't need every driving game to be Automobilista.
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Honestly do not know if it's supported in game. I really have only played with a keyboard. If you're feeling ballsy you can try to learn how to do it in your personal car. I've owned a few Ford Rangers with various amounts of clutch left in them and once had to get home super late at night with no clutch at all so had the pleasure of giving myself a crash course in floating at 2:30 am. Shine posted:I haven't messed with ETS2 in a while. Is there a way/mod to force all trucks into magical 6-speed gearing so I could use my G27 box without using a bunch of modifier keys? I know that wouldn't be realistic, but I don't need every driving game to be Automobilista. https://www.reddit.com/r/trucksim/comments/3h90gv/i_made_a_g27_hshifter_layout_for_18_speed/ http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=236812952 Look like what you're looking for. All a 12 and 18 speed are is a 6 with different splits.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Honestly do not know if it's supported in game. I really have only played with a keyboard. Jesus christ, man... How... How could you do this to yourself? 
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Aug 3, 2016 18:34
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Personally I only play with a keyboard because I can't justify wasting money on a decent wheel for just one game. It's quite easy to truck with keys if you mostly tap and use short and light touches. 
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Shine posted:I haven't messed with ETS2 in a while. Is there a way/mod to force all trucks into magical 6-speed gearing so I could use my G27 box without using a bunch of modifier keys? I know that wouldn't be realistic, but I don't need every driving game to be Automobilista. you could skip every other gear a quick search of ets2 mod sites brings up this one, which should work.
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Poil posted:Personally I only play with a keyboard because I can't justify wasting money on a decent wheel for just one game. It's quite easy to truck with keys if you mostly tap and use short and light touches. A 360 controller has infinite uses!
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Yeah just the analogue triggers on a cheapo 360 controller adds a lot to the game. Like having a range between 'go' and 'dont go' feels really good.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Jesus christ, man... How... How could you do this to yourself? WASD is standard accelerate, brake, left, and right. Left shift is gear up...I personally prefer a 14 speed that I picked up from one of the mods in the OP since empty I start in 4th and then skip to 6 then basically 8, 10, 12, 13, 14. Loaded 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10 on up. I have downshift bound to right mouse button and engine braking bound to left click. Liberal use of cruise control in 14 keeps me from having to mash buttons too much. Basically get into 14 around 100kph+ set cruise and then mash the "increase cruise by 5" a bunch of times. Keeps the truck running around 130 or so on the highway with little adjustments to steering here and there. Clicking the engine brake removes the cruise and a down shift to 13 while riding the engine brake scrubs plenty of speed. For Dirt and stuff I usually use a 360 controller. I've never really cared enough to get a decent wheel.
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Panch posted:Thanks for this, will definitely check these out! I haven't been floating in ATS/ETS, I assume it is supported? I have ground my gears before so that would lead me to believe it's possible if the failure to do it correct. ETS truck transmissions are all synchronized, so you should be using the clutch.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:WASD is standard accelerate, brake, left, and right. Left shift is gear up...I personally prefer a 14 speed that I picked up from one of the mods in the OP since empty I start in 4th and then skip to 6 then basically 8, 10, 12, 13, 14. Loaded 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10 on up. I have downshift bound to right mouse button and engine braking bound to left click. Liberal use of cruise control in 14 keeps me from having to mash buttons too much. Basically get into 14 around 100kph+ set cruise and then mash the "increase cruise by 5" a bunch of times. Keeps the truck running around 130 or so on the highway with little adjustments to steering here and there. Clicking the engine brake removes the cruise and a down shift to 13 while riding the engine brake scrubs plenty of speed. For Dirt and stuff I usually use a 360 controller. I've never really cared enough to get a decent wheel. Oh yeah, sorry, I should have been clearer; I used to play on Keyboard/Mouse with ETS2 for about a week, and then I just started using the 360 controller (now trying to get a good Steam controller setup going). Like someone else said, the analog triggers, not to mention the analog turning are fantastic. I'm sure everything you're doing is 100% functional (you ARE playing, after all), but it just doesn't sound fun to me. But hey, whatever works  I don't think I'd ever get a wheel, but a controller works quite nicely.
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Goetta posted:Like having a range between 'go' and 'dont go' feels really good. Dark_Swordmaster posted:A 360 controller has infinite uses!
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Poil posted:It seems like it would be really weird to me. But I don't really have any controller experience so I'm likely wrong. Analog turning would be an improvement however. They have enough buttons to bind to shifting gears, signals, wipers and whatnot, right (I assume they do)? Besides I don't play any other games where a controller might be useful so it's still a kinda wasteful expense. With a 360 controller I had to keep a keyboard around, although you could probably come up with an aggressively minimal button requirement. The steam controller is fantastic for it, though, since you can mode shift and double-map everything
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Honestly do not know if it's supported in game. I really have only played with a keyboard. Same 
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Oh yeah, sorry, I should have been clearer; I used to play on Keyboard/Mouse with ETS2 for about a week, and then I just started using the 360 controller (now trying to get a good Steam controller setup going). Like someone else said, the analog triggers, not to mention the analog turning are fantastic. I'm sure everything you're doing is 100% functional (you ARE playing, after all), but it just doesn't sound fun to me. But hey, whatever works No worries  ETS 2 is basically lean back, listen to some tunes (whatever the radio Mannheim rock station is owns), and drink a 6 pack while building a vague trucking empire. I work in the logistics industry so ETS 2 was a way to understand some of the basic requirements truckers have to put up with while also having enjoying a fun and relaxing game.
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When I played with a controller (DS3), my setup was something like this: L2: Brake L1: Shift down R2: Accelerate R1: Shift up Up: Retarder speed increase Down: Retarder speed decrease Left: Blinker left Right: Blinker right Select: Interact Start: Engine on/off Triangle: Cruise control Square: Beacon Circle: Horn X: Light horn R-Stick: Camera* R3: Hazards L-Stick: Turning* L3: Wipers *: Might be swapped by the other stick, can't remember now. The idea was to get to cruising speed, activate cruise control and dodge enemies until I arrived where I couldn't really use cruise control. It was pretty boring and the reason that I bought a G27.
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ManicJason posted:Short answer: yes in ATS. You have to enable some setting like "advanced shifting" in the controls settings. It works OK for upshifting, though it's a bit sensitive about timing and obviously gives you no physical feedback. Floating in real life lets you do a lot of slight pressure that will move the shifter in/out of gear. Downshifting without the clutch has proved effectively impossible for me in ATS. It works some small amount of the time, but more often than not I end up in grindville, frantically searching for the gear. Downshifting it seems like I would usually have time to double clutch at least. Is there any mechanical advantage to it being unsynchronized or is it a cost thing?
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I wish I could rebind the right stick. I have a TrackIR but it's still reserved for camera control but it doesn't even do that.
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Panch posted:Downshifting it seems like I would usually have time to double clutch at least. Is there any mechanical advantage to it being unsynchronized or is it a cost thing? It's a combination of strength, longevity, and simplicity I believe. Non-synchro gears are easier to make stronger in a smaller package. When you're talking about ~600 to 700 ft/lbs of torque latched on to a 40k box in a package that could weigh in at a max legal'ish DOT weight of 80,000 lbs that should last hundreds of thousands if not a million miles strength and simplicity count for a lot.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Oh, that'd be awesome! My Steam info, if that helps, is here (any other goons reading this who want to add me, feel free Just shared mine to the community as "goon express"
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dupersaurus posted:Just shared mine to the community as "goon express" Appreciated! I don't think it's showing up yet, but I'll keep looking for it. I don't think we're friends on Steam, but regardless, it'd be an awesome feature if you could sort by bindings used by people on your friends list, with the option of including a group you're a part of.
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Panch posted:Downshifting it seems like I would usually have time to double clutch at least. Is there any mechanical advantage to it being unsynchronized or is it a cost thing? Synchros are wear items. IIRC they basically use friction to spin the engine up/down to an RPM that'll allow the gears to mesh. When the engine is a huge loving 12-liter V6, that's a lot of friction, even to only spin it up or down a few hundred RPM. They would wear really fast unless the driver was rev-matching as much as possible. So if you need to be rev matching as much as possible anyway, why not skip the synchros all together, making the transmission stronger, lighter, smaller, and more reliable?
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rex rabidorum vires posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/trucksim/comments/3h90gv/i_made_a_g27_hshifter_layout_for_18_speed/ Captain Novolin posted:you could skip every other gear Thanks!
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Not by default but I'm sure with the proper tools one could bodge together something with a G27 shifter.
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Weedle posted:Are there any steering wheel controllers that have floor shifters with long levers for maximum immersion? Get a Thrustmaster TH8a shifter. Unscrew the gear knob. Get a broomstick. Drill an 8 mm hole in the end of a broomstick. Put it on the shifter lever.
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Weedle posted:Are there any steering wheel controllers that have floor shifters with long levers for maximum immersion? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaNOQU7a3v4
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Sooooo excited about the DAF XF 105 remaster! I spent quite a long stretch of my time with ETS wanting to drIve a DAF, but the textures and sounds (especially the sounds) were just so much worse than my second choice Man that I just couldn't stick with it. (http://blog.scssoft.com/2016/08/updated-daf-xf-105-is-coming.html)
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Can you get a higher average speed than me? Damage on Realistic fuel consumption on Sleep simulation on Did not stop at weight stations No auto-parking I used the Kenworth W900 with the C15 600 engine (2,050lbs/ft of torque) from the Realistic Engines and Sounds mod: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=650050267 I also used the Lower cop spawn mod: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=650458302 I did 76mp/h hauling a 37,500lbs trailer. You can use any trailer you want but you will find having a lighter trailer doesn't make much difference since once you are up to speed it's keeping it there that counts, not how fast you accelerate. I started my run at around 15:00 hours but any time is good really as long as you don't hit the morning rush in the middle of your run.  Remember that the GPS only gives you the shortest route, not the fastest. And don't forget to tune the radio to 181.fm The Eagle while you drive unless you like having that 1700rpm turbo whine drive you insane.
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As a parable to real life: I often have GiantBomb or YouTube or other such video content I mean to catch up with on my secondary monitor. My insurance premiums are through the loving roof.
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Trustworthy posted:Sooooo excited about the DAF XF 105 remaster! I spent quite a long stretch of my time with ETS wanting to drIve a DAF, but the textures and sounds (especially the sounds) were just so much worse than my second choice Man that I just couldn't stick with it. Just install this mod https://github.com/50k-Customs/DAF-XF/releases/tag/v3.7 the guy who made it joined scs and its this mod that will be added into the game. It's pretty much my favorite truck, to drive.
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