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so apparently Trump raised a lot of money last month. who knows how effective it can possibly be at this point http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-fundraising-july-2016-226615
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sean10mm posted:USPOL August: The Vindication of Prester Jane by the Narcissist Donald Trump  I do have to admit that when I read Prester's analysis of Trump as a narcissist I didn't quite buy her prediction that he'd have a total breakdown but, well, here we are and I was wrong as gently caress.
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Le Saboteur posted:She also founded ISIS. https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/760929433884778496 When are the Isies this year?
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holy poo poo they have it on tape too https://vimeo.com/177295919
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Dexo posted:Prester Jane stuff  Holy poo poo!
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Sword of Chomsky posted:So is anyone else worried about an uptick in right wing militia groups and other anti government groups?
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emdash posted:so apparently Trump raised a lot of money last month. who knows how effective it can possibly be at this point http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-fundraising-july-2016-226615 No, the RNC raised the bulk of that money. Trump did not.
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RADIUM! But also buried in that: By comparison, Clinton's campaign alone reported Tuesday that it had $58 million in the bank and raised $63 million directly through the campaign and an additional $26 million for the Democratic National Committee and state parties, for an overall total approaching $90 million.
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Dexo posted:Prester Jane
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:No, the RNC raised the bulk of that money. Trump did not. Also, isn't he kinda too late anyway? 'August' is not when you should be STARTING your ad buys or campaign spending.
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Is that money all for him or does some of it go to local party efforts?
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I'm going to worry about a violent backlash from this election because it's getting harder to worry about Hillary losing. Gotta arzy about something. https://twitter.com/cam_joseph/status/760933431891075073?s=09
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:No, the RNC raised the bulk of that money. Trump did not. nice
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straight up brolic posted:this footage of trump rallies is fairly terrifying
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Night10194 posted:Also, isn't he kinda too late anyway? 'August' is not when you should be STARTING your ad buys or campaign spending. That's also true. And for reference HRC campaign (itself, not its two incredibly well funded SUPERPacs) already has over 100m in reserved airtime for ads, while Trump has around a million. He also still doesn't have a ground operation in place in major states, while Clinton has people building a ground game already.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Ok, is this person qualified to draw these conclusions? No. Fun reading and all, but it's basically a giant D&D circlejerk confirming all your worst suspicions: the opposition is literally crazy and deficient
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Sword of Chomsky posted:I'm going to worry about a violent backlash from this election because it's getting harder to worry about Hillary losing. Trump ain't stoppin' til he gets minorities and women to 0%
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Crows Turn Off posted:Ok, is this person qualified to draw these conclusions? Depends on what you mean by "qualified." IIRC PJ has a lot of first-hand personal experience with personality cult psychos but isn't a psychologist or anything like that. It's a fun read and not much more, though to be fair to PJ there have been people who DO have real qualifications who have come out and said he is in fact a straight-up clinical narcissist as well.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Ok, is this person qualified to draw these conclusions? quote:I am not an expert nor do I have any higher education. I am a schizophrenic (full diagnosis Bi-Polar Type II Schizoaffective, PTSD, possible mild autism, depression) trans-woman (only recently out to myself) raised in a hardcore Authoritarian cult. I have only four years of proper education (High School) with the rest of my education being handled either directly at the cult or in home schooling under the supervision of the cult. My childhood was extremely painful and controlled. I did not have a social security number until I was 18 because social security numbers were the mark of the beast. I did not find out about the birds and the bees until two years after I entered puberty and was having erections. (I thought my erections where a curse from God for my impure thoughts and tried desperately to hide them). I have been involved in a variety of other cults and proto-cults in my adult life. I have also had the great fortune to be involved with some truly remorseless people that gave me an insight into just what humans will do to each other. (Many years ago I had a life insurance policy that named my business partner at the time as sole beneficiary, one of our mutual acquaintances repeatedly tried to pitch this business partner on killing me for the insurance money.)
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FairGame posted:No. I mean, Trump makes it pretty easy to draw the conclusion that he's literally crazy and deficient. I don't necessarily buy PJ's conclusion that Trump will try to incite violence, but her prediction of a very visible meltdown is looking more likely by the day.
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sean10mm posted:Depends on what you mean by "qualified." IIRC PJ has a lot of first-hand personal experience with personality cult psychos but isn't a psychologist. I believe she even says in her lengthy post that she is in no way a professional or qualified to diagnose someone, but given her experience she laid out a convincing argument.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Ok, is this person qualified to draw these conclusions? Oh my no
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FairGame posted:No.
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Sword of Chomsky posted:I'm going to worry about a violent backlash from this election because it's getting harder to worry about Hillary losing. Have you forgotten about the persuasive powers of Trump's Taco Bowl? EDIT: poo poo. Now I want a taco bowl.
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sean10mm posted:Depends on what you mean by "qualified." IIRC PJ has a lot of first-hand personal experience with personality cult psychos but isn't a psychologist. Yeah, PJ is someone with legit mental disorders (currently undergoing treatment) who first started posting about moving to Texas to be homeless since a city there has a great track record of helping them get better. She was also raised by christian fundamentalists who home schooled her in much the same way that the Duggars are home schooled but somehow even worse and is a really good insight into just how hosed up the far christian right wing is.
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Here's what people who are qualified say about Trump: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-mind-of-donald-trump/480771/ quote:For psychologists, it is almost impossible to talk about Donald Trump without using the word narcissism. Asked to sum up Trump’s personality for an article in Vanity Fair, Howard Gardner, a psychologist at Harvard, responded, “Remarkably narcissistic.” George Simon, a clinical psychologist who conducts seminars on manipulative behavior, says Trump is “so classic that I’m archiving video clips of him to use in workshops because there’s no better example” of narcissism. “Otherwise I would have had to hire actors and write vignettes. He’s like a dream come true.” Emphasis mine because LOL.
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Dick Trauma posted:Have you forgotten about the persuasive powers of Trump's Taco Bowl?
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Harrow posted:I mean, Trump makes it pretty easy to draw the conclusion that he's literally crazy and deficient. I believe I made an avatar bet with PJ that Trump would not call Clinton a oval office/whore/some other extremely offensive woman-specific insult during the debates. I am going to win that bet. Trump's nuts (no idea if it's true in a clinical sense, but holy poo poo), but this armchair psychologist stuff is silly, in my opinion.
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Mahoning posted:Isn't it illegal to NOT put ramps or handicap access on newly constructed buildings? You can't even do it; building inspectors wouldn't pass a building for occupancy that doesn't comply with ADA standards.
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My favorite thing about Trump's rally earlier: He revealed to the world that he doesn't know what the word grovel means. https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/760947560613806080 Donald J. Trump posted:So, so you know what the word grovel is, right? When you're groveling. In other words, you're trying to tell something, you're trying to make something up. You're groveling.
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My own (not particularly well-reasoned) take is that Trump will use accusations of voter fraud and a "rigged" election as an explanation for why he, a certified winner, lost the election (assuming the apocalypse doesn't come and he doesn't somehow win). Inciting violence or civil war doesn't seem to be his MO. That's not to say that his supporters won't do that all on their own (and that he won't just maybe wink and nod in their direction), but he won't actively incite it. The belief that the only way you can lose is if the opposition cheats is a good way for him to maintain his self-image as a winner while still losing.FairGame posted:I believe I made an avatar bet with PJ that Trump would not call Clinton a oval office/whore/some other extremely offensive woman-specific insult during the debates. Yeah, I also agree that he's not going to call Clinton a gendered insult during the debates. Trump doesn't actually use much vulgar language himself, as far as I can tell. He may well accuse her of some outlandish offenses, call her "Crooked Hillary" over and over, and just generally babble, but I don't think he's going to go on some misogynistic rant.
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https://twitter.com/hannahfc/status/760950919466856449 Hillary is just basking in this.
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Sword of Chomsky posted:I believe she even says in her lengthy post that she is in no way a professional or qualified to diagnose someone, but given her experience she laid out a convincing argument. This - take her thoughts on many topics with a serving of salt, but she also produces interesting and useful insights, especially the closer the topic gets to her own lived experience. And apparently she does have some personal familiarity with narcissists, so while the most pessimistic elements may be a bit overboard, it's a handy visualization of how and why narcissists narcissize.
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Sword of Chomsky posted:https://twitter.com/hannahfc/status/760950919466856449 They are keeping Trump's people out of his rallies, of course she likes them. AND THEY NEVER PAN THE CAMERAS!
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Harrow posted:My own (not particularly well-reasoned) take is that Trump will use accusations of voter fraud and a "rigged" election as an explanation for why he, a certified winner, lost the election (assuming the apocalypse doesn't come and he doesn't somehow win). Inciting violence or civil war doesn't seem to be his MO. That's not to say that his supporters won't do that all on their own (and that he won't just maybe wink and nod in their direction), but he won't actively incite it. The belief that the only way you can lose is if the opposition cheats is a good way for him to maintain his self-image as a winner while still losing. http://mashable.com/2012/11/06/trump-reacts-to-election/#vxeMfaRdZiqF Hell yeah it's his MO
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A Winner is Jew posted:Yeah, PJ is someone with legit mental disorders (currently undergoing treatment) who first started posting about moving to Texas to be homeless since a city there has a great track record of helping them get better. She was also raised by christian fundamentalists who home schooled her in much the same way that the Duggars are home schooled but somehow even worse and is a really good insight into just how hosed up the far christian right wing is. Man I thought I had it bad with the christian right parents but PJ had it so bad. That thread linked earlier is a hell of a read.
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W/r/t a bunch of stupid rednecks with guns doing something "real". I imagine that it would have similar after math as the OK City Bombing and give the FBI and non-wingnuts in the gov a very good excuse to drop the hammer. and the non wingnut public opinion instant swings against them.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/insiders-game-out-clintons-cabinet-226599 politico makes a bunch of poo poo up about the potential cabinet, but worth a read
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Crows Turn Off posted:Ok, is this person qualified to draw these conclusions? Oh are we only letting licensed people post study-worthy conclusions in USPOL now? Phew.
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Sword of Chomsky posted:https://twitter.com/hannahfc/status/760950919466856449 Of course Hillary Clinton is in favor of regulation. 
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