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Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Please Trump. Say something dumb again soon.

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theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Noam Chomsky posted:

Nah, this can't be true. It's bad and doesn't work!

...is your proposal that a law was passed in the United States, therefore it is a good law?

Doctor Butts posted:

Please Trump. Say something dumb again soon.
His speech in Portland was very uninteresting.

He said he'd fix everything, and railed on E-mails for a while. Said that Tim Kaine isn't popular in Virginia and is bad, but Mike Pence is very good.

He seems exhausted.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Noam Chomsky posted:

People starving to death can't afford preferences.

Mmm hyperbole

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Amergin posted:

Now if you want to argue about the empty promises made by the government to help those factory workers train and find new jobs, you need to take that up with the government. You know, the one who you want to implement a social safety net to take care of the poor. That one.

I mean, I know low effort conservative snipes are your thing and all, but this is pretty superficial even for you

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Noam Chomsky posted:

People starving to death can't afford preferences.

And others want to make it so they can. The only problem someone could have with this is if they think that they shouldn't have preferences, because they're sponging poors.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Noam serious question, why are you still posting?

There are plenty of times when I am sure I am right but I am arguing solo against ten people who disagree with me and it becomes literally impossible to think I could convince anyone in such a disadvantaged state. So I just leave the debate because it won't gain anything for anyone.

What do you hope to gain by posting endlessly about how everyone is unfair to you?

I was answering people who were trying to claim I am trying to prove free trade is bad by re-stating that I was originally saying I can SEE why people don't like the TPP because NAFTA has gotten such a bad rap and that a lot of jobs were, or may have been, lost due to it.

I'm not trying to prove anything except that certain posters have issues with reading comprehension and just want to argue, especially if you trigger them by speaking poorly of things like the TPP or NAFTA, apparently.

If I'm bothering you then put me on your ignore list like I've done to a lot of annoying posters.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
Has trump imploded anymore while I slept?

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

James Garfield posted:

"well i can see why people might think the Jews were behind it, after the dolchstoß left a bad taste in their mouths"

<gets called out for antisemitism>

"see this proves they did it, now the international cabal is dogpiling me"

lol sympathizing with people who lose their jobs due to offshoring is equivalent to being anti-semitic? cool.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

anyway the point of me posting that had nothing to do with protectionism, the point was that "socialist"/"safety net" countries are much less protectionist than the United States and like the farmers in Norway are constantly upset and want Norway to leave the EU because it marginalizes them despite the fact that they can't loving farm for half of the year. Being free trade does not prevent you from taking care of your citizens and being protectionist doesn't mean that you take care of your people.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Noam Chomsky posted:

I was answering people who were trying to claim I am trying to prove free trade is bad by re-stating that I was originally saying I can SEE why people don't like the TPP because NAFTA has gotten such a bad rap and that a lot of jobs were, or may have been, lost due to it.

I'm not trying to prove anything except that certain posters have issues with reading comprehension and just want to argue, especially if you trigger them by speaking poorly of things like the TPP or NAFTA, apparently.

If I'm bothering you then put me on your ignore list like I've done to a lot of annoying posters.

Yes we would like to argue in the forum for arguments, but you refuse to and just retreat behind the wall of "I'm being dogpiled/persecuted by THE HIVEMIND", which makes everyone dogpile you for being bad thus becoming a self fulfilling prophecy.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Noam Chomsky posted:

I was answering people who were trying to claim I am trying to prove free trade is bad by re-stating that I was originally saying I can SEE why people don't like the TPP because NAFTA has gotten such a bad rap and that a lot of jobs were, or may have been, lost due to it.

I'm not trying to prove anything except that certain posters have issues with reading comprehension and just want to argue, especially if you trigger them by speaking poorly of things like the TPP or NAFTA, apparently.

If I'm bothering you then put me on your ignore list like I've done to a lot of annoying posters.

You also decided to make a bunch of unsubstantiated claims about those posters, myself included, about our motivations while claiming we were doing the same -- when most of us were simply pointing out that your individual posts were, in fact, bad or wrong. The self-righteous victimization does not, in anyway, make people want to engage you beyond telling you to shut up.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Luna Was Here posted:

Has trump imploded anymore while I slept?

The big implosion was over the last few days, right now we're seeing how fast he's imploding to calculate the heat death of his campaign.

note: i might be loving up physics really, really bad with this post.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Noam Chomsky posted:

I'm not trying to prove anything except that certain posters have issues with reading comprehension and just want to argue, especially if you trigger them by speaking poorly of things like the TPP or NAFTA, apparently.

you are not succeeding

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Luna Was Here posted:

Has trump imploded anymore while I slept?

He's still talking about the Iran video that his own staff said didn't exist.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Noam Chomsky posted:

lol sympathizing with people who lose their jobs due to offshoring is equivalent to being anti-semitic? cool.

so the rural working class, people starving overseas, is there anyone you won't champion to prove that USPOL is being unfair to you?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I mean he's just the millionth poster to whine about the D an D hivemind dogpiling him.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

He's still talking about the Iran video that his own staff said didn't exist.

And is possibly from a TV documentary or movie?

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx
So in other news...

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/761291126166855680

:rip: Republican party

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

He's still talking about the Iran video that his own staff said didn't exist.

Also he's mad about immigrants from... Somalia, for some reason.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
like dude, you apparently think that the only possible reason that anyone ITT supports free trade is that we're unable to form opinions on our own and are mindless Hillary bots. that's provably false.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Yinlock posted:

Yes we would like to argue in the forum for arguments, but you refuse to and just retreat behind the wall of "I'm being dogpiled/persecuted by THE HIVEMIND", which makes everyone dogpile you for being bad thus becoming a self fulfilling prophecy.

you and a few others are the ones claiming i was talking about a hivemind. i just pointed out how a few posters tend to hammer on anyone who gets a little too leftist, which is absolutely true. those same posters start deflecting with "lol hivemind globalist" bullshit, and here we are.

originally i did actually try to debate and i posted sources, which were ignored, because many posters ITT don't care and just want to dogpile.

Seeric
Aug 18, 2011
For anyone who didn't watch the speech which just ended, Trump began talking about building the wall and about how Mexico is going to pay for it because they are making so much money on trade and "we're not even talking about the drugs" (or something along those lines). As a direct result of mentioning that he wasn't even talking about drugs, Trump somehow dropped his Mexico thread completely and went into the story he's been telling about the drug problem in New Hampshire.

I know it was joked about, but does the man seriously have some sort of severe form of ADHD? I just have trouble comprehending how else a phrase along the lines of "I'm not talking about drugs" somehow resulted in the mere presence of the word 'drugs' instantly transitioning into a tangent about drugs while the original topic was dropped completely and never came back.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

pence not endorsing mccain is some spectacularly traitorous poo poo

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

straight up brolic posted:

pence not endorsing mccain is some spectacularly traitorous poo poo

Yeah one of Kasich's staffers posted about travelling to IN with McCain to campaign for a desperate Mike Pence for Congress.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.


straight up brolic posted:

pence not endorsing mccain is some spectacularly traitorous poo poo


Its speaks to the fundamental inertia of the two party system that a party this troubled is still able to function at all

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Noam Chomsky posted:

you and a few others are the ones claiming i was talking about a hivemind. i just pointed out how a few posters tend to hammer on anyone who gets a little too leftist, which is absolutely true. those same posters start deflecting with "lol hivemind globalist" bullshit, and here we are.

originally i did actually try to debate and i posted sources, which were ignored, because many posters ITT don't care and just want to dogpile.

lol yeah the problem is that you're too leftist and it's definitely not your sanctimonious victim complex and piss poor reasoning skills

you're just toooooo leftist for all the shadow republicans who post here in d&d

your sources were ignored because you didn't understand them and couldn't defend them when challenged

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Uh :stare:

so does this mean McCain and Ayotte are about to un-endorse Trump?

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Noam Chomsky posted:

you and a few others are the ones claiming i was talking about a hivemind. i just pointed out how a few posters tend to hammer on anyone who gets a little too leftist, which is absolutely true. those same posters start deflecting with "lol hivemind globalist" bullshit, and here we are.

originally i did actually try to debate and i posted sources, which were ignored, because many posters ITT don't care and just want to dogpile.

you posted exactly two sources. one of which is about currency manipulation as the main driving factor in job losses, with a bunch of numbers that don't really make sense, and another is an article from a newspaper that was focused on the somewhat inconsistent opinion among economists on TPP.

don't act like you posted a bunch of sources to support your claims.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Seeric posted:

I know it was joked about, but does the man seriously have some sort of severe form of ADHD? I just have trouble comprehending how else a phrase along the lines of "I'm not talking about drugs" somehow resulted in the mere presence of the word 'drugs' instantly transitioning into a tangent about drugs while the original topic was dropped completely and never came back.

During a recent interview he stopped at least 5 times to watch something on TV while answering a question.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

axeil posted:

Uh :stare:

so does this mean McCain and Ayotte are about to un-endorse Trump?

Nope.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

axeil posted:

Uh :stare:

so does this mean McCain and Ayotte are about to un-endorse Trump?

The fact McCain ever endorsed Trump in the first place is hilarious to me

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
mccain was just asked about trump and nukes and gave a damning no response

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

loving lol, Pence is letting Trump stick his arm straight up Pence's rear end.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Mel Mudkiper posted:

The fact McCain ever endorsed Trump in the first place is hilarious to me

people keep talking about mccain being principled and having a spine but really he comes across as a dude drowning in his party who occasionally breaks surface and gasps for air earning a hearty round of "hmm good point, maverick"

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

mccain was just asked about trump and nukes and gave a damning no response

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/08/04/this-30-second-video-is-absolutely-devastating-for-donald-trump/

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

zoux posted:

Yeah one of Kasich's staffers posted about travelling to IN with McCain to campaign for a desperate Mike Pence for Congress.

Jesus christ. The Trump wing of the GOP has no morals or scruples. How can you leave someone out to dry like that?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Popular Thug Drink posted:

people keep talking about mccain being principled and having a spine but really he comes across as a dude drowning in his party who occasionally breaks surface and gasps for air earning a hearty round of "hmm good point, maverick"

He used to be. Back before 2008. But that was a long time ago.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

WampaLord posted:

He used to be. Back before 2008. But that was a long time ago.

he didn't have a spine then.

the things he bucked the party on were things that were popular with republican voters

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Popular Thug Drink posted:

people keep talking about mccain being principled and having a spine but really he comes across as a dude drowning in his party who occasionally breaks surface and gasps for air earning a hearty round of "hmm good point, maverick"

Like, if I spent years in a jungle torture camp I would not endorse a dude who gave me poo poo about it

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A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

axeil posted:

Jesus christ. The Trump wing of the GOP has no morals or scruples. How can you leave someone out to dry like that?

I mean... have you just ignored all the reports of Trump leaving contractors holding the bag over the years on his properties?

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