Tempest_56 posted:Unrelated! I've been experimenting to find a good use for the Biker perk deck and can't seem to figure out the sweet spot. Anybody had any success with it? It's not good.
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It's actually pretty great if you want to use the ICTV but not as good as the Optimal Decks™
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Aug 5, 2016 19:58
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Yeah, it's an upgrade to muscle if you run ICTV with an aggressive enough group and for some reason aren't running frenzy anarchist.
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Aug 5, 2016 21:56
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watho posted:It's actually pretty great if you want to use the ICTV but not as good as the Optimal Decks™ I mean, it obligates you to wear ICTV, so it's worthless to me. Bu I bet it's pretty loving good if you run it with Frenzy. I mean, everything is, but the permanent health reduction means you ought to get at least 12 health and armor per kill, up to 10 times every 18s. 120 armor every 18s, before factoring in stuff like Bullseye.
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Aug 5, 2016 22:16
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LuciferMorningstar posted:I mean, it obligates you to wear ICTV, so it's worthless to me. Bu I bet it's pretty loving good if you run it with Frenzy. I mean, everything is, but the permanent health reduction means you ought to get at least 12 health and armor per kill, up to 10 times every 18s. 120 armor every 18s, before factoring in stuff like Bullseye. When you have 400 armor, 120 armor every 18 seconds is terrible. Biker doesn't even compare favorably with Armorer, let alone Anarchist.
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Aug 5, 2016 23:55
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If you repeatedly mow down squads with a LMG then the cooldown for health and armour is less of a bottleneck but more about about how fast cops can be shot. I think it works best if you have suppressed weapons so it's possible for your teammates to take heat off you if you take health damage.
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Aug 6, 2016 01:12
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played this game a bit recently after a long-ish haiatus. went with some crook/light ballistic vest/ dodge based build I saw on reddit; jeezus christ they sure buffed damage values on things, didn't they? a LEO pistol doing 100+ damage with a 32 sized magazine just feels wrong. While the build sure is fun and synergies with my typical suicidal FPS playstyle, this game also just feels a whole lot easier than before. I remember having to worry about health and ammo management, which doesnt seem to be as much a thing on overkill. also pubs are precious creatures. first game I play with them has a guy convinced I'm going to die on very hard because I don't have armor despite another pub repeatedly pointing out "no he's going dodge"; the first pub got huffy and wanted to run in a suit for the next day until the other two talked him off that particular ledge. second game just had some infamy level 8+ guy ask me if it was my first account (im only infamy 2), which i can only guess was because i killed the most people while sprinting sideways with a dinky pistol like a stupid loon and i was mistaken for being competent or something game is still fun; i missed out on all the angry drama about it being ruined forever i guess
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Aug 6, 2016 06:52
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Tiler Kiwi posted:game is still fun; i missed out on all the angry drama about it being ruined forever i guess Don't worry- I'm committed to getting it ruined again.
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Aug 6, 2016 06:54
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hmmm i read your ideas and they seem... inoffensive? sane? somewhat agreeable? and yet people are... very angry at you... yes... yessss... this is the discendo vox i know.
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Aug 6, 2016 07:50
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Welp, after learning about the existence of This is the Police, I think we deserve a level of just straight up murdering everyone from that game because holy gently caress. Psion posted:Do people not do biker heist for some reason? Back when it was new no one wanted to do both that or DW Biker.
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Aug 6, 2016 09:16
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To be fair, that might be partly because Day 1 is basically Hoxton Breakout Day 2, but outdoors. Also it's easier to escape without the bikes than on them. Day 2 is pretty good, though.
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Aug 6, 2016 10:10
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Alright, after about 5 hours of reverse engineering Overkill's lovely loving horrible cop spawning code oh my god gently caress this poo poo man why is it all over the place WHY IS EACH COP GROUP HARDCODED PER MAP PER SPAWN THEY ALL USE THE SAME ONES WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF CLOAKER SPAWNS WHICH SUPPORT ALL COPS ANYWAYS BY DESIGN AAAAAAA gently caress we can now have custom spawngroups http://lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=17114 is required for this for the people who dont stare at overkill's lovely code all day, this means we can have custom cop mods that dont interfere with other custom cop mods at all my template at http://lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=17102 has been updated to support this go make something really lovely like a lowtax cop or some poo poo and let me know when you do
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Aug 6, 2016 11:10
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Iamgoofball posted:go make something really lovely like a lowtax cop or some poo poo and let me know when you do You lose  from your offshore everytime he hits you? 
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Aug 6, 2016 13:46
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Tiler Kiwi posted:also pubs are precious creatures.  (I assume he wouldn't have known the other ingredients' places either, but he only picked up the HCl and I had to show him where to put it)
Nordick fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Aug 7, 2016 |
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Aug 7, 2016 05:35
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Kikas posted:You lose I wonder how much the average player would lose if they had to drop a dollar or ten or something from offshore for every bullet they got hit with in a heist.
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Aug 7, 2016 09:16
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Allen Wren posted:I wonder how much the average player would lose if they had to drop a dollar or ten or something from offshore for every bullet they got hit with in a heist. I've got so much offshore if they put out a gun that used a dollar per bullet from your offshore I'd use it and not give a gently caress
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Aug 7, 2016 10:16
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Grapplejack posted:I've got so much offshore if they put out a gun that used a dollar per bullet from your offshore I'd use it and not give a gently caress Well, really, any of us do. Like, it's hard to wrap your head around "a million" when you start actually counting it one by one, let alone the zillions we're all sitting on.
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Aug 7, 2016 10:20
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Grapplejack posted:I've got so much offshore if they put out a gun that used a dollar per bullet from your offshore I'd use it and not give a gently caress I want a minigun that actually costs as much to use as the one from Meet the Heavy
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Aug 7, 2016 10:36
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I like their DLC so far, but I got to admit I'm not looking forward to naval stuff in the game unless they can cut out a lot of the bugs and plodiness of naval battles in the game.
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Aug 7, 2016 18:42
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The best application would probably be a cruise liner that is docked at a marina or something.
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Aug 7, 2016 19:04
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Plan Z posted:I like their DLC so far, but I got to admit I'm not looking forward to naval stuff in the game unless they can cut out a lot of the bugs and plodiness of naval battles in the game. I agree. what am I agreeing to
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Aug 7, 2016 19:07
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Psion posted:I agree. Shooting cops with cannonballs.
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Aug 7, 2016 19:24
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Tempest_56 posted:Shooting cops with cannonballs. yes please
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Aug 7, 2016 19:35
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Tempest_56 posted:Shooting cops with cannonballs. Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag: Naval Heistery. I'd play this. Alternately, since you mentioned cannonballs, a Serious Sam crossover heist? Also great. dibs on the quadlaser.
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Aug 7, 2016 19:46
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Psion posted:Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag: Naval Heistery. I'd play this. Alternately, since you mentioned cannonballs, a Serious Sam crossover heist? Also great. I was thinking Fallout 4.
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Aug 7, 2016 19:48
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Shooting Blanks posted:I was thinking Fallout 4. that's the eventual heist where we get Jiro's son or whatever
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Aug 7, 2016 19:49
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Shooting Blanks posted:I was thinking Fallout 4. "wow, Boston is totally wrecked. But Vlad's safes are over here somehow? Better go pick them up, clowns!"
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Aug 7, 2016 19:51
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New collaboration between Bethesda and Overkill: Bethesda does all the script writing for the next 5 heists.
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Aug 7, 2016 20:05
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Would probably be better than poo poo like Aftershock. Travel across the country, to steal safes for Vlad, that are already in Vlad owned trucks, to bring them back to Vlad because he apparently can't wait for them.
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Aug 7, 2016 20:36
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Hobold posted:Would probably be better than poo poo like Aftershock. I thought the idea here was to get to the trucks before the police, since the police would likely seize the content of the trucks.
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Aug 8, 2016 00:01
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How about a White Christmas style heist where you have safe-crackers break open an infinite amount of safes.
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Aug 8, 2016 00:08
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Plan Z posted:How about a White Christmas style heist where you have safe-crackers break open an infinite amount of safes. you and I both know Overkill would make a challenge about having to crack 100 safes on OVERKILL difficulty or above, though, and we really don't need another one of those. I still hold a grudge over how that White Xmas competition went down 
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Aug 8, 2016 00:13
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Plan Z posted:How about a White Christmas style heist where you have safe-crackers break open an infinite amount of safes. Are we talking an infinite amount of safes at once (so we can have 10+ broken drills at the same time), or safes infinitely inside each other like a demented Titan matyroshka doll?
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Aug 8, 2016 00:38
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Tempest_56 posted:Are we talking an infinite amount of safes at once (so we can have 10+ broken drills at the same time), or safes infinitely inside each other like a demented Titan matyroshka doll? A safe dispenser that drops safes, which you have to deliver to the lockpickers, which will never stop dispensing safes.
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Aug 8, 2016 00:45
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RandallODim posted:A safe dispenser that drops safes, which you have to deliver to the lockpickers, which will never stop dispensing safes. I would be fine with this, so long as I could use the un-picked safes to build a safe-fort.
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Aug 8, 2016 00:50
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Tempest_56 posted:I would be fine with this, so long as I could use the un-picked safes to build a safe-fort. Can you use the safe fort for cover? Because now I'm imagining some weird safe fort going from the safe dispenser to the lock pickers so you can just ignore the cops on the other side of your fort.
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Aug 8, 2016 01:20
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Psion posted:you and I both know Overkill would make a challenge about having to crack 100 safes on OVERKILL difficulty or above, though, and we really don't need another one of those. I want to crack 100 safes by hand picking, while having to cook 200 bags of meth on a moving truck while trying to prevent 50 goats from escaping AND breaking Hoxton out of jail again because he's bad.
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Aug 8, 2016 01:59
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grimcreaper posted:I want to crack 100 safes by hand picking, while having to cook 200 bags of meth on a moving truck while trying to prevent 50 goats from escaping AND breaking Hoxton out of jail again because he's bad. and you have to drive the truck over the tiles to unlock the OVERDIAMOND or the whole map gets flooded with smokebombs and cloakers
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Aug 8, 2016 02:30
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grimcreaper posted:I want to crack 100 safes by hand picking, while having to cook 200 bags of meth on a moving truck while trying to prevent 50 goats from escaping AND breaking Hoxton out of jail again because he's bad. Vox, I didn't realize you had an alt account.
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Tempest_56 posted:Vox, I didn't realize you had an alt account. Santa’s Workshop The Setting: Vlad wants enough presents to give to every good little boy or girl in the District-that translates to 100 presents, minimum. As on other DV heists, sniper and enemy spawns are changed to be nastier. The Heist:
Present events: As you progress, things get harder. 10 bags: The present supply system mentioned above begins to occur. Until this point, elves will not run out of materials. 16 bags: Laser tripmines go active scattered around the back trainyard area. Bain announces this ("I just got a signal- the police are setting something up out back"). More will periodically spawn, about every ten minutes. Bain will mention this each time ("police have set more mines, guys, watch out!") 25 bags: A turret truck drives up and parks immediately outside the front left door. This both blocks a sightline to the front chimney and serves as an additional spawn location. 40 bags: Winters spawns near the chimney behind the workshop. 41 bags: A turret spawns on one of the buildings overlooking the rear chimney. 50 bags: Additional spawnpoints will be made active in the workshop interior. 56 bags: Simultaneous 5 cloaker spawn from locations in the warehouse. 70 bags: As on White Xmas, 6 black dozers will spawn across the map. 81 bags: A turret drives through the front left door and crashes into Santa's Slay. This spawns a one-time, large set of police and specials, as on Bomb Forest- it is not a permanent enemy spawnpoint. This tree bagging location is disabled. 100 bags: Vlad is thrilled! You've saved christmas! Both chimneys are now always available and you can secure more presents, but Vlad needs one last thing before you go. The Xmas timer safe will begin spawning between assault waves, and is now available. Vlad wants something important that's inside- his "Secret Santa gift." Special Spawns: Expect additional skylight and window snipers. Overwatch does not occur. Otherwise, spawns are mostly dictated by the present events above. Extra Loot: None, but you can keep making presents if you really want to. Xmas timer safe: 2 minutes, no changes. The safe can be attempted again each assault break. What's Vlad's special surprise gift? 4 safes, as from Aftershock. Secure them all for the escape to become available. Achievements: ...And a broke-dick piece of poo poo drill: Complete Santa's Workshop on Death Vox. A Christmas Miracle: Complete the heist without destroying any turrets. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Aug 8, 2016 |
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