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The "money laundering" is Clinton Cash level tinfoil stuff. DWS resigned because 1) no one in the party leadership liked her or her performance as chair; 2) she'd become the focus of Bernie supporters' hate of the DNC and was thrown under the bus to appease them.
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Gyges posted:Candidate Trump has so far, off the top of my head, had news cycles of beef with Thank you for this delightful list. I think the Fire Marshals should be separate, because one of them saved him from a stuck elevator and Trump showed his gratitude by making GBS threads on the dude hours later and leaving that out is a shame.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:...money laundering thing? http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/dnc-leak-shows-mechanics-of-a-slanted-campaign-w430814 Antti posted:The "money laundering" is Clinton Cash level tinfoil stuff. DWS resigned because 1) no one in the party leadership liked her or her performance as chair; 2) she'd become the focus of Bernie supporters' hate of the DNC and was thrown under the bus to appease them. Uh... No. The DNC got caught funneling money from local elections to Hillary's campaign by sneaking it through state committees. It's possible that this was technically legal (DWS resigning leads me to believe that it was not), but it showed that the DNC was bending all the rules to make sure Hillary won while they were telling the Bernie camp that they were being impartial and fair and treating anyone who said otherwise like crazy people.
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readingatwork posted:http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/dnc-leak-shows-mechanics-of-a-slanted-campaign-w430814 Here's the incriminating evidence of that article: quote:"From: Miranda, Luis "Are these guys paranoid nutjobs spreading poo poo off the record?" "I dunno let me check" ~scandalous~
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readingatwork posted:Uh... No. The DNC got caught funneling money from local elections to Hillary's campaign by sneaking it through state committees. The article you posted is not actually saying what you think it is saying. Like "The DNC is unarguably more favorable towards Clinton than Sanders" is true. The rest veers between straight hearsay and taking things out of context.
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It was really weird how a guy who joined the Democratic party after 25 years in congress as an independent didn't magically transform half of the DNC apparatchik into Bernie supporters. Unfair.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:It was really weird how a guy who joined the Democratic party after 25 years in congress as an independent didn't magically transform half of the DNC apparatchik into Bernie supporters. Unfair. 
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:It was really weird how a guy who joined the Democratic party after 25 years in congress as an independent didn't magically transform half of the DNC apparatchik into Bernie supporters. Unfair.
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I wish I'd had access to the member list of a bunch of Bernie Sanders Facebook groups throughout the cycle. I would guess that the more moderate Sanders supporters have been thoroughly scared off from their old Sanders groups by the radical crazies who are basically just posting Breitbart articles and Rothschilds conspiracy stuff.
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Aug 7, 2016 11:26
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Trump quotes make a lot more sense when you imagine Zapp Brannigan saying them.
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I wonder if Trump supporters think Zapp is the cool and good protagonist of Futurama?
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Pakled posted:On NPR earlier I heard a wonderful interview with an editor of the Daily Caller (an alt-right news site) who responded to the host's assertion that Muslim Americans can be as loyal and patriotic as any other American with statistics about how Muslims are underrepresented in the US military compared to their share of the population while white people are overrepresented. I was so mad that the host didn't press him on that. I heard it too (Bob Garfield from On the Media interviewing Scott Greer from the Daily Caller.) It seemed pretty clear that the reason Garfield didn't press further was that one, he wasn't going to get any further on that point (the listeners could tell that Greer was trying to dodge with talking points), and two, it was incidental to the main point, of the essential shittiness of trying to smear Mr. Khan as someone who tries to impose sharia on the US, when he isn't selling citizenship to Muslims. Way more damaging, IMO, was when Garfield pointed out that he same story, with almost identical verbiage, ran in the Daily Caller, the Washington Examiner, and Breitbart. Calling him a hack, and a near-plagiarist? Had to have left a mark. Here's a link to the interview. Worth a listen
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Gyges posted:Candidate Trump has so far, off the top of my head, had news cycles of beef with You forgot: [*]Black protesters at his events [*]Somali communities in Maine and Minnesota [*]Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell
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WampaLord posted:Hey! Be fair. The good Dr. Stein did NOT freak out over radio waves. smdh
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readingatwork posted:http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/dnc-leak-shows-mechanics-of-a-slanted-campaign-w430814 It's the exact same system of fundraising that Obama used and nobody gave a poo poo then. The DNC also set up the same type of fund for Bernie but he didn't use it because he never actually gave a poo poo about supporting downticket Democrats.
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The DNC was funneling money to the presidential campaign from the local parties, not to Hillary's campaign. It's because there are things that benefit from centralisation, and because they understand correctly that hitting Trump will be the biggest and best chance the democrats have at winning in Congress.
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Pakled posted:On NPR earlier I heard a wonderful interview with an editor of the Daily Caller (an alt-right news site) who responded to the host's assertion that Muslim Americans can be as loyal and patriotic as any other American with statistics about how Muslims are underrepresented in the US military compared to their share of the population while white people are overrepresented. I was so mad that the host didn't press him on that. Now, where have I heard that before...?
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Stereotype posted:Never forget the double standard most Americans put on Democrats. Most Americans had a higher opinion of Clinton after that because they thought it was bullshit.
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Aug 7, 2016 15:03
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How long into President Hillary's term before the Republicans try to impeach her? You know they're already plotting it.
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bowser posted:How long into President Hillary's term before the Republicans try to impeach her? You know they're already plotting it.
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Judging by Giuliani on ABC This Week it looks like Team Rocket is really leaning into this Vilerat's Mom false equivalency re: the Khans.
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TheScott2K posted:Judging by Giuliani on ABC This Week it looks like Team Rocket is really leaning into this Vilerat's Mom false equivalency re: the Khans. Yes it was really terrible when Hillary Clinton spent a week trashing Vilerat's Mom on TV and Twitter.
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It depends on how lovely cnn and its ilk try to pretend the speakers and the events they inspired are in any way equivalent.
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Radish posted:It depends on how lovely cnn and its ilk is like any trying to pretend the speakers and the events they inspired are in any way equivalent. Noted Defense Department Stenographer Martha Raddatz's strategy seems to be to let Rudy go for 30 seconds and then try to put him back on track.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I assume they will put in the paperwork the very day she is sworn in. I'm not even kidding. with all the crimes she's committed, fo sho! I don't care what the "facts" say, the bitch is guilty as sin. reality has a well known liberal bias anyway, so we can unskew things a bit and it will be alright
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bowser posted:How long into President Hillary's term before the Republicans try to impeach her? You know they're already plotting it. Samurai Sanders posted:I assume they will put in the paperwork the very day she is sworn in. I'm not even kidding. Nah, its beginning to be classic Republican tactic, proclaim treason and say Obama/Hillary should be impeached, but they do nothing as there is no evidence. If they had one iota of evidence, they would be shouting it and rushing to be the first to get their name on it. But no, impeachments and treason are solely only used in the realms of facebook and freep land.
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QuarkJets posted:Yes yes I'm aware of the open source ideal of "the software will reach a point of perfection because literally anyone can look at and modify the source code!" But that's a double-edged sword, as it is also very easy to subtly compromise open source software, especially when the topic is as poorly-understood among programmers as cryptography often is. No you're not understanding at all. You have to be able to see the algorithm used for encryption to be able to trust it. You can mathematically analyze it yourself, or send it to someone who knows how to, to check for all sorts of weaknesses. You can't do this with products where the encryption algorithms are hidden from you. Some of those happen to be well coded and will actually protect your stuff, but most of the time they're kept hidden because if you knew how they worked it would be very easy to crack stuff "protected" with them.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I assume they will put in the paperwork the very day she is sworn in. I'm not even kidding. They have already dug out the old paperwork from the 90s, and an intern is currently looking for some whiteout so that the necessary words can be updated.
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happyhippy posted:Nah, its beginning to be classic Republican tactic, proclaim treason and say Obama/Hillary should be impeached, but they do nothing as there is no evidence. Yeah. Impeachment became a very, uh, how to put it, difficult? thing after they tried with Bill. Newt going on record saying they did it because they could reeked of vindicitiveness and really poisoned the use of it in the voters' minds.
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Trump is now going off on Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, and by extension, Baltimore, on Twitter. I'm not crazy for her, but them's fightin' words.
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Crow Jane posted:Trump is now going off on Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, and by extension, Baltimore, on Twitter. I'm not crazy for her, but them's fightin' words. Blood coming out of her whereever
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Zwabu posted:Yes it was really terrible when Hillary Clinton spent a week trashing Vilerat's Mom on TV and Twitter. But if they point out how this (obviously not happening) is the reason why her speech vanished from the public mind so quickly, why, that wouldn't be objective now would it?!
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Yeah if the Republicans in the Senate are happy to pretend that a President's term is three years for the purpose of SCOTUS, that's not too far from supposing that the President basically serves her term at the pleasure of Congress. They have little more than contempt for the institutions that gird our government and our society - I've no doubt they would stage a military coup if they thought they could get away with it. Impeachment is a given if the GOP holds the House at any point during her Presidency, which is to say, impeachment is a given, if she wins.
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New Morning Consult poll has Hillary up 9 points. This is the second poll they've done post convention with the previous one only having her up by 3.
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Kilroy posted:Yeah if the Republicans in the Senate are happy to pretend that a President's term is three years for the purpose of SCOTUS, that's not too far from supposing that the President basically serves her term at the pleasure of Congress. This has to be one of the most galling things Republicans have done in recent memory. They didn't even try to sugarcoat it by saying the candidate needed a long vetting process or they were too busy on other stuff. They just straight up said nah, Democratic presidencies last three years now. Deal with it.
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ColdPie posted:This has to be one of the most galling things Republicans have done in recent memory. They didn't even try to sugarcoat it by saying the candidate needed a long vetting process or they were too busy on other stuff. They just straight up said nah, Democratic presidencies last three years now. Deal with it. It kind of puts Democrats in a tough spot, as well. Do you pull Garland after the election, thus depriving the GOP of the risk-free wager they made on the election result, or do you keep him in, making it bleedingly obvious to anyone paying attention (there are dozens of us!) that all the talk of a "new precedent" was total horseshit?
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Kilroy posted:Nah it's about par for them. Don't forget they tried to sabotage the negotiations with Iran not to long ago. They are all literally felons. I dunno that it's that tough a spot, considering they'll probably get at least one more over the next 8 years. Maybe Republicans will just shorten Dem presidencies to zero years. I mean, who knows what the electorate will want four years from now?
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Kilroy posted:Nah it's about par for them. Don't forget they tried to sabotage the negotiations with Iran not to long ago. They are all literally felons. What "new precedent"?
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