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What was the "is" argument anyway? I was a child when that all went down.
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Epic High Five posted:Remember when I think it was Perry, then Gov of Texas, spent weeks crowing about how Texas never took federal money for anything*, then immediately started lambasting Obama for not forking over truckloads of cash to help contain wildfires caused by his criminal mismanagement of natural resources? Standard FYGM. Super storm Sandy? gently caress you north east/financial capital of the US/the world. Bumfuck, Flyover gets a tornado or fake Climate Change causes TX to get a nanometer of snow. Wheres my money? Never mind many GOP shitholes take more moeny than they pay back in. edit: quoted wrong post. Welp at having multiple quote tabs open.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:15
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I'm glad the dems have a good chance of stacking the supreme court, but does anyone else think this is insane? With how wildly partisan everything has become in this country the idea that incredibly important issues can be decided for decades based upon whatever the election results were for a single election when a justice finally died is completely nuts. Like even if the popular will and following elections all push in the other direction them's the breaks until one of the fuckers gives up or dies. I understand the idea is that these are legal experts who aren't supposed to be just voting straight ticket but that ship seems to have sailed.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:16
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It really seems that the Republican's response to the Zika Virus is almost directly similar to the AIDs crisis in the 80s. Anything it seems that has to do with sex and reproduction they want to control. It's very odd.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:18
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/762400869858115588 Donald Trump: Other T he seriously cannot let this baby thing go
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Aug 7, 2016 23:21
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:What was the "is" argument anyway? I was a child when that all went down. If you're asking what I'm thinking you're asking (about the Bill Clinton - Monica Lewinsky thing), Bill Clinton, being a good lawyer who hired lots of better lawyers, dragged the definition of sexual contact and a zillion other issues (including the past versus present tense  ) into a morass of technicalities, most importantly on whether receiving oral sex constituted "having sexual relations" (with that woman) - both teams of lawyers had previously come to the agreement that for the purposes of this case, it did not. Among other things, as I recall, he also testified that he "is not in a sexual relationship with Ms Lewinsky", which was probably true at the time of his statement. Nothing he said at any time while under oath was proven to be A) a willful lie that was B) material to the case. Sometimes through technicalities, sometimes because it was a plausible misremembering (or he-said she-said with no corroboration), etc.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:26
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:What was the "is" argument anyway? I was a child when that all went down. They was I heard it in a Documentary, Clinton's team ensured that the deposition could only run for an allotted time (say, 2 hours) and there wouldn't be any follow-up. So there was a lot of pausing, stopping to grab a drink of water, clarification of things, and the "what your definition of is, is" thing to run up the clock.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:26
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Yinlock posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/762400869858115588 I think you mean "the baby" thing
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Aug 7, 2016 23:26
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Hollismason posted:It really seems that the Republican's response to the Zika Virus is almost directly similar to the AIDs crisis in the 80s. Anything it seems that has to do with sex and reproduction they want to control. It's very odd. I think the issue is more that Republicans aren't in favor of control when it comes to Zika transmission. Quorum posted:I think you mean And this is why you keep Bill locked up on Martha's Vineyard without wifi: You do not want Bill talking about "the baby thing."
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Aug 7, 2016 23:27
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My Imaginary GF posted:It is also a very nasty STD that may be spread through semen for at least 6 months after infection. Christ Almighty okay that's pretty bad.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:28
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:What was the "is" argument anyway? I was a child when that all went down. He was asked about Lewinsky and said "there's nothing going on between us". Then he was accused of lying under oath because in the past they had a sexual relationship, and he replied that it depends what the meaning of the word "is" is, i.e. if "there's nothing going on between us" is taken to mean that nothing has ever happened between them (which would be a lie) or is taken to mean that at the present moment there is nothing happening between them (which would be true).
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Aug 7, 2016 23:29
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Artificer posted:Christ Almighty okay that's pretty bad. When you look at the public health lit, its a pretty difficult issue. Like how the sudden availability of birth control was causative of the STD epidemics of the '50s and '60s: people are stupid, and when they think they're safe, they don't practice safe sex. Funding for more sex education will not lower the rate of Zika transmission. We just gotta face it: the south done gonna have to make abortion more widespread, or pay for the welfare babies.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:32
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Ironic that the two biggest pushers of the clinton bj thing are complete human trash when it comes to wholesome Christian values. Ones a chomo in prison and the other left one of his four wives for getting cancer.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:33
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DemeaninDemon posted:Ironic that the two biggest pushers of the clinton bj thing are complete human trash when it comes to wholesome Christian values. Ones a chomo in prison and the other left one of his four wives for getting cancer. and the indepdendent counsel who dug it out just oversaw a massive rape coverup scandal
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Aug 7, 2016 23:36
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Quorum posted:I think you mean yeah what the gently caress is up with those scare quotes My Imaginary GF posted:When you look at the public health lit, its a pretty difficult issue. Like how the sudden availability of birth control was causative of the STD epidemics of the '50s and '60s: people are stupid, and when they think they're safe, they don't practice safe sex. Funding for more sex education will not lower the rate of Zika transmission. We just gotta face it: the south done gonna have to make abortion more widespread, or pay for the welfare babies. I think you're forgetting the standard operating procedure for disease outbreaks: Ignore it completely unless it affects you personally, then live in terror 24/7. But don't worry, it's not like an international event is being held at ground zero for the disease or anything. GreyjoyBastard posted:If you're asking what I'm thinking you're asking (about the Bill Clinton - Monica Lewinsky thing), Bill Clinton, being a good lawyer who hired lots of better lawyers, dragged the definition of sexual contact and a zillion other issues (including the past versus present tense The "Blowjobs don't count" defense is also Gingrich's go-to tactic. It's very important to remember that while Bill Clinton is the best, he is also unarguably a huge piece of poo poo.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:37
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Don't forget Special Prosecutor Kenneth Starr going beyond the scope of his original assignment, then delivering The Starr Report as if it were some National Enquirer fanfic. Or Linda Tripp being a horrible Jabba the Hut of a person that manipulated a friend in order to perform a political hit job on a president she didn't like in the hopes of a fat stax payout.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:38
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My Imaginary GF posted:When you look at the public health lit, its a pretty difficult issue. Like how the sudden availability of birth control was causative of the STD epidemics of the '50s and '60s: people are stupid, and when they think they're safe, they don't practice safe sex. Funding for more sex education will not lower the rate of Zika transmission. We just gotta face it: the south done gonna have to make abortion more widespread, or pay for the welfare babies. Hopefully we'll find some way to deal with the crisis. I'm not sure these forums could handle a massive proliferation of zombaby threads.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:39
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If the Dems take the Senate, can Hillary just start arranging treaties with other countries for the Senate to approve? The North Atlantic $15 Minimum Wage Treaty, the Universal Mental Care Treaty, etc.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:40
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Good Citizen posted:Hopefully we'll find some way to deal with the crisis. I'm not sure these forums could handle a massive proliferation of zombaby threads. The south's poisonous public policies are making heaven crowded.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:42
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Yinlock posted:yeah what the gently caress is up with those scare quotes I choose to believe he intends to imply the baby was actually a Clinton plant, possibly a robot or lesser fiend given her ties to Hell.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:43
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PerniciousKnid posted:If the Dems take the Senate, can Hillary just start arranging treaties with other countries for the Senate to approve? The North Atlantic $15 Minimum Wage Treaty, the Universal Mental Care Treaty, etc. 2/3s of Senate to ratify.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:44
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PerniciousKnid posted:If the Dems take the Senate, can Hillary just start arranging treaties with other countries for the Senate to approve? The North Atlantic $15 Minimum Wage Treaty, the Universal Mental Care Treaty, etc. She'd still need 2/3 of the Senate to vote to ratify any treaty.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:45
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PhazonLink posted:Standard FYGM. Citizens of New Orleans would like to have a word with you. Conservatives only have a problem with disaster relief when circumstances force them to notice a bad thing is happening, and their reflexive whining about government spending gets triggered. So once-a-century storm slams the gulf coast or north eastern seaboard and they wring their hands about waste and moochers. But the bi-yearly hurricane or wildfire that takes out a whole town in Florida and Texas respectively gets litter attention outside the people directly affected.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:45
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The witchhunt of Clinton for basically nothing after nearly a decade of positive policies and enormous economic growth in order to win an election exemplifies Republicans: They don't give a poo poo about America they just want to win. "drat these progressive policies worked really well, I guess we should be monsters and make the guy who fixed everything look like a pervert because our ideas don't work at all" -Republicans of 1999 and also right now
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Stereotype posted:The witchhunt of Clinton for basically nothing after nearly a decade of positive policies and enormous economic growth in order to win an election exemplifies Republicans: They don't give a poo poo about America they just want to win. To be fair Bill is a total pervert and kind of an awful person. Was good at his job though.
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Stereotype posted:The witchhunt of Clinton for basically nothing after nearly a decade of positive policies and enormous economic growth in order to win an election exemplifies Republicans: They don't give a poo poo about America they just want to win. Like we need more evidence of that. Remember, they have spent eight years deliberately sabotaging as much as possible to prevent anything positive occurring that they couldn't claim responsibility for.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:54
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FilthyImp posted:Nah. It's more like ShitWholeFoodsPeopleSay.txt I expected her to be all "Hillary bad! She stole votes from Bernie, vote for me!" and not repeating David Avacado Wolfe memes. Though I did describe Stein and the greens to appealing to the same people who like the Food Babe and Dr Oz, to which I got lots of "no, she's pro science, she just doesn't like MONSANTO and BIG PHARMA *insert naturalnews level of information* which even though they're trying to defend her scientific bonafieds they contradict themselves by saying that them and her are "keeping an open mind" about wifi and vaccines and other poo poo like that. There was a huge argument about her on the Skeptics Guide FB page where people were posting quotes from since that dated back to like 2006 to try to deflect her critics that say she's anti-science. I do like how I've seen many bernie supporters realizing that Stein trying to get disaffection Bernie voters to her side is actually really crummy and shows that she's less about actual change more an opportunist about expanding her brand. berserker posted:So apparently Kasich has confirmed the "Super VP" offer to be a true story. Trump just wants to have a painting of him hanging in the White House. It's just a trophy to him, he wants the prestige of winning what is the biggest popularity contest in the US. He is a man with no vision, no actual plans to "make America great again". The sad thing is I've seen people saying this is a plus because he'll hire the right people to fix everything after Obama appointing his friends and political cronies to positions.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:55
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Yinlock posted:To be fair Bill is a total pervert and kind of an awful person. Was good at his job though. Yeah you can separate the two pretty easily. Even more so today since it has absolutely nothing to do with Hillary.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:55
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berserker posted:So apparently Kasich has confirmed the "Super VP" offer to be a true story. If this is true, how likely is it that at one of the debates this topic comes up? It's just the word of a Kasich aide. But the story is so idiotic that I believe it 100%.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:55
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David Cross' new Netflix special has some pretty good Trump dunks, if anyone needs a laugh.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:56
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Yinlock posted:yeah what the gently caress is up with those scare quotes Oh yeah, he definitely is both those things, he just also did not provably commit perjury.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:57
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:The 90's sound like a very frustrating time to have been politically aware and not a conservative head-job. Yes, but imagine being a Kerry campaign volunteer seeing W get re-elected in 2004.
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Aug 7, 2016 23:57
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DemeaninDemon posted:Yeah you can separate the two pretty easily. Even more so today since it has absolutely nothing to do with Hillary. I think what's one of the most awful and condescending things about the election is that Hillary is being hit with the cheating scandals of her husband as if she is some sort of extension of him even as a presidential hopeful. How dare she be cheated on?
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Aug 7, 2016 23:59
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Yinlock posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/762400869858115588 Avenging slights and disrespect is one of the biggest reasons Trump is running for president in the first place, his way of showing the New York aristocracy that he really does belong and he thinks it will make them show him the respect he thinks he deserves. Trump never forgets, or forgives, a slight against his pride.
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Yinlock posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/762400869858115588 I love how it's just "nuclear" Energy, weapons, physics, it's all just "the nuclear"
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Aug 8, 2016 00:01
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I can't wait for Trump to start trying to counter late night comedian jokes and political cartoons that attack him.
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Aug 8, 2016 00:03
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LegoMan posted:It's dismissive to say he was impeached for a blowjob. He was charged with perjury and obstruction of justice. There is definitely a double standard but don't diminish what he actually did. The truth is that he was impeached for being a Democrat
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twistedmentat posted:I can't wait for Trump to start trying to counter late night comedian jokes and political cartoons that attack him. But will he respond to this thread? Let's find out.
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