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socialsecurity posted:Which Conservative positions does she hold again? She's kind of a war hawk. Also, when she was first lady she pushed for something more like Obamacare instead of a public option or single payer. She's not a fan of devouring the rich
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Switch "liberal" to "occasionally-left-leaning conservative" and you're on the money. Hillary will be our Margaret Thatcher, only scarier. As opposed to Trump, who'll be a real Disraeli I'm sure. Congress originates legislation. You got a problem with Clinton? Run for Congress ya lazy gently caress.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Globalism!!!!!!!  hail our dark master
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TheBigAristotle posted:
Jesus, it must really hurt to see that chaos dunk coming. All you got is she fell 3 times in her life? 
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QuarkJets posted:She's kind of a war hawk. Also, when she was first lady she pushed for something more like Obamacare instead of a public option or single payer. One of the big things about Hillary this election is that Bernie nudged her platform and the Liberals general discourse farther left though. It's like she actually examined why a good chunk of people were flocking to the "outsider" candidate instead of infighting and backstabbing so hard that an orange lunatic looks like the sane one. EDIT: Gyges posted:Jesus, it must really hurt to see that chaos dunk coming. All you got is she fell 3 times in her life? Hillary's stockpile of Verboten Jams is formidable. Her attack ads are amazing. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Aug 8, 2016 |
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Eifert Posting posted:"The Republicans believed the next acting president should make the decision. I bow to their opinion." If Garland withdraws his nomination he'll need to make it clear why he's doing it: because to allow himself to be appointed after the election is to reward the GOP for making a mockery of the Constitution, and anyone who allows that to happen isn't fit to be a Supreme Court Justice.
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Hillary Clinton always stays as far left in the Democratic Party as she thinks is just this side of being politically nonviable. The fact that some many people think she's some conservative light just shows how many people don't remember what the Clintons tried to do in 93 and 94.
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Yinlock posted:
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FuzzySlippers posted:Longer than that. That was basically the Republican crisis of the 40's. They felt that Dewey was one of the strongest candidates they'd ever had and people actually kinda hated Truman and if they couldn't win with that match up it was hopeless. Republican control had given the average American the greatest disaster they'd ever faced and it had been mitigated under democrats. Even if Democrats weren't always the savior of the poor and often corrupt it was hard to paint Republican values as anything but slavishly devoted to the wealthy. I agree with you. That's why I loved the label coined by Samantha Bee; Fear Fluffers. That's all they are, that's their only message; fear.
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Yinlock posted:One of the big things about Hillary this election is that Bernie nudged her platform and the Liberals general discourse farther left though. It's like she actually examined why a good chunk of people were flocking to the "outsider" candidate instead of infighting and backstabbing so hard that an orange lunatic looks like the sane one. Clinton had been solidly progressive on most of the issues long before the Sanders campaign was a thing. This March 2015 DailyKos article says that she was the "11th most liberal" Senator during her time in office, according to an analysis of Senate voting records. I think that Sanders helped change the general discourse in a good way, but I don't think that Clinton's politics have changed much because she was already on board with almost everything that Sanders supports. The biggest area where she could go further left would be to renounce her war hawk positions, but fat chance of that happening.
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Is Gallup even doing their trackers anymore? Or did they get enough of a black eye to their credibility in 2012 that they are moving away from the election game?
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TheBigAristotle posted:
2012: FALLS AT HOME, BLOOD CLOT was just added.
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I'm wondering why they even care about Hillary's mortality. If she goes then loaf of white bread gets to be president.
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QuarkJets posted:She's kind of a war hawk. Also, when she was first lady she pushed for something more like Obamacare instead of a public option or single payer. On the healthcare issue, my memory is that she pushed for a more progressive law. That's when Heritage came up with its blueprint that eventually became Romney Care and then morphed into Obamacare. I'm open to being corrected on this.
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DemeaninDemon posted:I'm wondering why they even care about Hillary's mortality. If she goes then loaf of white bread gets to be president. Dorky Virginia Stepdad would trounce Trump.
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Lol Republicans who explicitly worship Reagan worrying a person might be too old or enfeebled to be president
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Zwabu posted:Is Gallup even doing their trackers anymore? Or did they get enough of a black eye to their credibility in 2012 that they are moving away from the election game? The latter
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The problem with the Super VP position for Pence is that it would require Trump to actually honor the deal. Like Pence could run the country for a little bit but then someone would do something that offended trump and he would lurch out to react to it, throwing the sort of tantrums we're seeing now, before eventually getting tranquilized under control, at which point Pence has to spend his time trying to fix the poo poo trump did, praying he can get things back to where they were before trump decides to throw another tantrum.
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radical meme posted:On the healthcare issue, my memory is that she pushed for a more progressive law. That's when Heritage came up with its blueprint that eventually became Romney Care and then morphed into Obamacare. Clinton's original healthcare plan was, at the very first moment, actual socialized healthcare. The individual mandate was something concocted by congressional Republicans as a "market-based alternative" that they preferred. This key portion is what made up the ACA that passed in the first Obama term. It wasn't so much concocted by Heritage, as it was passed along by like-minded ideologues before being drawn up by Heritage in a white paper.
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Bushiz posted:The problem with the Super VP position for Pence is that it would require Trump to actually honor the deal. This is how you can tell that John Kasich is smarter than Mike Pence. Anybody who actually thinks they are going to be shadow president is a moron.
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Gyges posted:Jesus, it must really hurt to see that chaos dunk coming. All you got is she fell 3 times in her life? Gerald Ford stumbled twice as President and it was mocked and was mentioned in the 1976 election.
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Kilroy posted:No no, that would be terrible. It would seal the precedent, which can't happen. 'Precedent' is meaningless when it gets in the way of loving winning. Withdraw the nomination and replace with a "gently caress You" 25 year-old pick who'll be 32 by the time they get their first hearing before the Senate. Show the R's just how much they hosed themselves by nominating a communist to lead their party.
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smg77 posted:This is how you can tell that John Kasich is smarter than Mike Pence. Anybody who actually thinks they are going to be shadow president is a moron. Except one Richard Cheney, but I don't think Pence is a necromancer cheating death with his dark arts. (One more reason I disapprove of Pence)
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The answer is clear: at the open of the first presidential debate, we have Hillary and Donald arm wrestle. Solves a lot of problems, I think.
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Bushido Brown posted:The answer is clear: at the open of the first presidential debate, we have Hillary and Donald arm wrestle. Solves a lot of problems, I think. How would anyone be able to watch?
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Dirt posted:https://twitter.com/JeffersonObama/status/762439697750630402 I think what pleases me most is that this is really gonna fuel the "Fox News is turning evil liberal" sentiment that the craziest of the Trumpers have. When Murdoch's precious propaganda isn't delusional or regressive enough, you know that your movement is in big trouble.
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My Imaginary GF posted:'Precedent' is meaningless when it gets in the way of loving winning. Withdraw the nomination and replace with a "gently caress You" 25 year-old pick who'll be 32 by the time they get their first hearing before the Senate. Show the R's just how much they hosed themselves by nominating a communist to lead their party. Besides, withdrawing the nomination and issuing a statement that "you assholes had your chance at a moderate justice" doesn't reinforce a precedent once way or another.
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Geostomp posted:I think what pleases me most is that this is really gonna fuel the "Fox News is turning evil liberal" sentiment that the craziest of the Trumpers have. When Murdoch's precious propaganda isn't delusional or regressive enough, you know that your movement is in big trouble.
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smg77 posted:This is how you can tell that John Kasich is smarter than Mike Pence. Anybody who actually thinks they are going to be shadow president is a moron. Still waiting for it to come to GOG 
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Bel Shazar posted:Besides, withdrawing the nomination and issuing a statement that "you assholes had your chance at a moderate justice" doesn't reinforce a precedent once way or another. Alternatively, we could just outlaw the Republican party for being communists attempting to implement a foreign takeover of America in order to advance a Russian agenda.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Hail Satan!!! Satanist clubs expand in Puget Sound area schools.
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Bushiz posted:The problem with the Super VP position for Pence is that it would require Trump to actually honor the deal.
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:I don't understand what point or reason there is for Fox to outsource their polling (or do any polling at all, rather than just make up numbers). The people watching FOX will neither fact-check nor care if they are inaccurate, and having the only reliable voters for your candidate hearing he is down 10 isn't going to motivate them. But it will slight them against Fox the more they aren't pure of conservative ideology enough and god do I want to see that linger even if Trump loses, but his "I WAS CHEATED BY MY OWN SIDE" message sticks.
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Kilroy posted:The other problem is that it's basically doing the job of the President while Trump takes credit for anything you do right, and you take the blame for anything you do wrong. I couldn't imagine the sort of craven idiot you'd have to be to agree to this, but fortunately imagination is not necessary: the universe has instantiated an example for me in the form of Mike Pence. Mike Pence really does not seem to be an especially smart man.
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Kilroy posted:The other problem is that it's basically doing the job of the President while Trump takes credit for anything you do right, and you take the blame for anything you do wrong. I couldn't imagine the sort of craven idiot you'd have to be to agree to this, but fortunately imagination is not necessary: the universe has instantiated an example for me in the form of Mike Pence. To be fair that's generally what the Republicans do right now anyway. Everything good is due to them and everything bad is Obama.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Alternatively, we could just outlaw the Republican party for being communists attempting to implement a foreign takeover of America in order to advance a Russian agenda. I'm sorry thread but fine, I'll bite: what do you mean by communists?
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