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Pakled posted:In which the Texas GOP, so blinded by their hatred of Hillary that they believe she looks bad in any situation, accidentally endorses her. Help me out, someone. I have never been able to figure out why John Lithgow was allowed into the room for this event.
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Grundulum posted:Help me out, someone. I have never been able to figure out why John Lithgow was allowed into the room for this event. Based on this Time article, that's: quote:Tom Donilon (standing, arms folded) was President Obama’s National Security Advisor from October 2010 until June 2013 and is now a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. Donilon didn’t want President Obama to watch the raid, fearing it would appear he was micromanaging the strike. Obama reportedly insisted, striding into the room, saying “I need to watch this.”
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Donkwich posted:The Big Giant Head wanted Bin Laden dead. Should be easy enough. If Bin Laden could outrun the fireball he'd be Big Giant Head himself, after all.
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Thanks. The world is a bit less magical knowing a TV star wasn't actually in the room for the OBL killing, but it's nice to know who it really is.
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FAUXTON posted:NYT giving zero fucks, straight-up asking why education leads to left-leaning tendencies. i'm guessing the right-wing takeaway from this is that clearly education is flawed
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I think after the Evan "The Mormon Electoral Suicide Bomber Aimed at Utah" rumor panned out, we have to actually give Mornin' Joe some credit.Yinlock posted:do they even know what that word means
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emdash posted:
For the record, here are the PA congressional district leanings, per Wikipedia: R12, R10, R9, R6, R6, R6, R6, R6, R5, R2, R1, R1, E0, D4, D12, D16, D25, D39(!!). If a Clinton +7 result translated to down ticket races, that's 10 House seats that switch control. Get out the drat vote, people, and maybe this goes from a curbstomping to a wave election.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I don't know NC law specifically, but I would assume no, they're generally not even legal because you could end up hitting some random bystander on accident. Which is ironic, because he hit someone with his warning shot
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Radish posted:Unlike with police these kinds of idiots that think "stand your ground" is a license to kill anyone as long as you say you were scared don't get off every time. I think what really helped out Zimmerman was that he was connected to the legal system and the local PD which resulted in them not even charging him originally. Also that juror who compromised the jury with misinformation and what they could do because she and her husband wanted to write a book. If he was a regular dumbass that shot a black kid the chances of him getting off would have been much lower. Yeah I remember a couple of others idiots like this. That guy who got on hands-free with 911 while he confronted his neighbors about making too much noise and thought saying "I'm afraid for my life, I'm standing my ground!" would get him off for murdering unarmed people. Or that guy who shot someone in a movie theater during an argument. Prosecutors don't go to bat for these guys like they do for the cops. With Zimmerman there were no other witnesses and he at least had been in a fight, unlike this guy. If everything Zimmerman said were 100% true* with Trayvon telling him he'd die tonight and everything, then it really would have been self defense. This new guy is guilty even according to his own story. It probably also helped Zimmerman that you had to find six people who lived under a loving rock and somehow had never even heard of the case, I don't understand how that was even possible, but they found 'em and big surprise six people dug out of Florida somewhere knowing nothing of the outside world made a bad decision in a weighty court case go figure *It wasn't
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Goddam, that is some terrible advice from National Security Advisor John Lithgow.
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gradenko_2000 posted:In this election's lingo, what does "tankies" mean? (In general terms it's the commie equivalent of the "Hitler Did Nothing Wrong"/"Did 6 Million Really Die?" crowd, but in terms of this election it usually just gets applied to especially unreasonable/belligerent/delusional Sanders supporters)
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gradenko_2000 posted:In this election's lingo, what does "tankies" mean? People usually use it to refer to the paleo-left.
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Grundulum posted:For the record, here are the PA congressional district leanings, per Wikipedia: R12, R10, R9, R6, R6, R6, R6, R6, R5, R2, R1, R1, E0, D4, D12, D16, D25, D39(!!). Obviously though, you can't take these numbers in a vacuum. That E0 district (PA 7) is made up of the not Chester portions of Delaware County, and parts of Berkson and Chester counties, all full of "working class whites" that I fully expect Trump to clean up. On the other hand, Pa 8 is listed as R1 and should flip this election. The incumbent is not running, instead propping up his little brother to take over.
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VitalSigns posted:Yeah I remember a couple of others idiots like this. That guy who got on hands-free with 911 while he confronted his neighbors about making too much noise and thought saying "I'm afraid for my life, I'm standing my ground!" would get him off for murdering unarmed people. Or that guy who shot someone in a movie theater during an argument. Prosecutors don't go to bat for these guys like they do for the cops. There's also the guy that shot the kids in their car for blasting loud music and the old man who shot that girl though his front door. Regular people that decide to start killing and think that magic legal words will protect them aren't nearly as protected by the legal system. There were a few good articles written after Zimmerman explaining Stand Your Ground and how while those laws don't necessarily protect dumbasses, they encourage the ones that want to murder someone legally.
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Lol the Green Party convention "Then there was Sedinam Kinamo Christin Moyowasifza-Curry, a long-shot Green Party presidential candidate who regularly interrupted the proceedings to proclaim that the primary had been rigged against her. Anytime someone mispronounced her name or refused to repeat it in full, she would halt the proceedings with a yell. Rather than shut her down, the party secretaries typically yielded to pressure from the crowd not to muffle anyone’s voice, no matter how out of order they were. They made Reince Priebus seem like an exemplar of command and control." "There was the roll call vote, a disorderly and poorly managed process that, even by the standards of this year’s sometimes raucous and discordant conventions, was an utter poo poo-show. When the very first delegate, a white gentleman from Alabama, stood up to deliver his state’s votes, many in the crowd booed him. “THE GREAT WHITE HOPE, HUH?” one delegate yelled." "It's possible to imagine that the energy and organizing experience brought to the Green Party by the Bernie Sanders people will help the party — but it’s just as easy to imagine that the energy of the Busters cools and dissipates in a party with few resources and not much of an organizing background. As Ndgo laid out plans, some of the Greens in the room, older folk who’d been with the party for a while, seemed uncomfortable. The new Buster clearinghouse Ndgo described seemed “bottlenecky,” one Green delegate from Massachusettes said. Ndgo turned the conversation to a brainstorming session. What other organizing ideas did people have? A man in a full formal green Army uniform jumped up. “I started a GoFundMe account. I haven’t gotten any donations yet,” he says. “I have lots of big ideas.” He had a friend who made banners, and he planned to go to Dallas-area highway overpasses and put up signs. The first: “‘Clinton is a terrorist.’ The next overpass, you’ll see ‘Trump is a pedophile.’ The third will say: ‘Jill Stein is a doctor.” The room cheered. Ndgo’s eyebrows jumped up and down. “Banner drops,” she said. “That’s an idea.” So as you can see the progressive left is ready to take the nation by storm.
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aBagorn posted:That E0 district (PA 7) is made up of the not Chester portions of Delaware County, and parts of Berkson and Chester counties, all full of "working class whites" that I fully expect Trump to clean up. How does a district full of Trump voters translate into no lean for either party?
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emdash posted:Tankie is most widely used to mean Stalinist afaik But people are also twisting it instead of leftist following the Kremlin line to justify whatever to use for bernie bros following the head canon of what they thing Bernie back in February would be telling them to do now.
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Hey, just looking for a little information here, and I am not sure how to go about finding it. The Green Party's Jill Stein has been accused of being Anti-Vax. Now I have seen her court the crunchy "alternative" health folks but she has gone on record as saying vaccines don't cause autism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNG3gDTPYjc Now I do not plan on voting for her, I think diluting the left wing vote in a purple state like NC is a bad idea, but when arguing with ex-berners who may be taken in by the allure of a third party candidate (such as myself, honestly), I do want some concrete things I can attack her on. So I guess what I am asking is if there is any hard information that shows her as an anti-vax candidate that I can use in discussion, because really that is the only thing I can think of that would dissuade some of my fellow ex-berners to vote Hillary. Or are the anti-vax attacks just misattributed attacks against the Green party's already dumb alternative-health supporting platform?
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Madmarker posted:Hey, just looking for a little information here, and I am not sure how to go about finding it. The Green Party's Jill Stein has been accused of being Anti-Vax. Now I have seen her court the crunchy "alternative" health folks but she has gone on record as saying vaccines don't cause autism. She's absurdly mealy mouthed about trying to allow enough of an opening in her statements to directly court anti-vaxers. It's their core constituency and she's straddling the fence. Also people should be giving Trump more poo poo for being an anti-vaxer and I'm not sure why they're not.
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Madmarker posted:Now I do not plan on voting for her, I think diluting the left wing vote in a purple state like NC is a bad idea, but when arguing with ex-berners who may be taken in by the allure of a third party candidate (such as myself, honestly), I do want some concrete things I can attack her on. http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/jill-stein-says-its-dangerous-to-expose-kids-to-wifi-signals/
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Madmarker posted:Now I do not plan on voting for her, I think diluting the left wing vote in a purple state like NC is a bad idea, but when arguing with ex-berners who may be taken in by the allure of a third party candidate (such as myself, honestly), I do want some concrete things I can attack her on. So I guess what I am asking is if there is any hard information that shows her as an anti-vax candidate that I can use in discussion, because really that is the only thing I can think of that would dissuade some of my fellow ex-berners to vote Hillary. Or are the anti-vax attacks just misattributed attacks against the Green party's already dumb alternative-health supporting platform?  Posts like this make me hate our political system. CGP Greys "First past the post" video should be shown in every school. Its a shame you are pressured to seek out attacks on politicians you might otherwise be inclined to support.
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fishmech posted:Yes dear, and European countries implemented death plus 70 years before we did. IIRC the first one to do it did it in the 60s, the US was a relative latecomer to the death+70 bar. Medical IP protection literally kills people, and that's in there too. The solution is state funding of drug development for the public good, not cracking down on countries that prioritize people's lives over profits.
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MattD1zzl3 posted:
OH, I am not actually inclined to support Jill Stein specifically. I feel the allure of third-party because I dislike Clinton. I looked into the Greens and found them lacking, I find issue with Jill Stein and the green party because of their health stances, specifically their support of homeopathy and other alternative medicines. However there are others who similarly sympathize with the progressive side of politics whom I deal with on a daily basis that are not dissuaded by the Green Party's support of these treatments, and are in fact attracted by it, lots of Reiki healing and crystal bullshit nonsense. However, vaccines are where a lot of them draw the line, and without that obvious detriment, they feel vindicated in their belief in her candidacy. I feel the need to find an effective means of attack specifically in regards to vaccinations, because there is a decided lack of pragmatism here, and getting the strident to vote the compromise candidate is a necessity in this election.
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Third Party: The Hopes and Prayers of voting.
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But the support for Jill Stein is largely bullshit anti-establishment behavior and not based in the reality of the Green Party's dumb as hell platform. They're barely to the left of the Dems on economic policy. Their application/understanding of science is appalling. Their foreign policy, while admirable in some ways as anti-American imperialism, is a loving joke. Both candidates appear to support the rhetoric of Russia Today and represent the dumb-gently caress white left who see Putin and Russia as representatives of the glory days of the Soviet Union. gently caress, the veep nominee is an Al-Assad apologist. My Facebook feed is full of people on their high horse about not supporting Clinton but they don't seem to know a loving thing about Stein/Baraka. They just know Hillary is bad and the Green Party is "socialist" and "anti-imperialist."
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Jarmak posted:I'm reading that article as he was claiming he fired a warning about that accidentally hit someone, not that he poo poo someone then fired a warning poo poo. some good autocorrect going on here, I think 
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Speaking of third parties: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/debates-clinton-trump-johnson-stein-226806 The debates are planning for a possibility of a third participant. Who know if Johnson will actually make it in though.
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"my proudest moment was not doing my job!" I wonder if republicans realize that its poo poo like this that upgrades their already punchable faces to new levels.
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i am the bird posted:gently caress, the veep nominee is an Al-Assad apologist. Uh.... What?
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"How strange that we've been pandering to the human garbage of America for decades, only for someone like Trump to appear that would take this strategy to its logical conclusion!" 
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