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Iron Crowned posted:"my proudest moment was not doing my job!" He wanted to be Majority Leader his entire life. I'm going to enjoy watching him get kicked out of that roost.
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Emanuel Collective posted:Is there any evidence that Clinton's surge is translating down-ballot? Clinton's strategy appears to be "Republicans, Donald is a singularly bad candidate, vote for me!" not "Donald is the end result of your policies and strategies, purge your party" Voters have two options assuming they find Trump reprehensible: - Vote for Hillary, then vote for whoever - Don't vote It's exceedingly unlikely that people will show up and not vote for the Presidential candidate. So what you're left with is either Republican voters don't show up at all, or they for some reason vote for Hillary and then vote for the guy who's probably endorsed Donald Trump in the Senate race. The most likely scenario is that if they don't vote for Trump, they won't vote at all.
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computer parts posted:Voters have two options assuming they find Trump reprehensible: I could see this happening in the Senate races, but the most vulnerable Senators have already distanced themselves from Trump. The problem is in the House, where the GOP has gerrymandered their districts to hell and back, requiring more than just widespread apathy to overcome the incumbent.
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Emanuel Collective posted:Is there any evidence that Clinton's surge is translating down-ballot? Clinton's strategy appears to be "Republicans, Donald is a singularly bad candidate, vote for me!" not "Donald is the end result of your policies and strategies, purge your party" It's one of those things where typically a big top-ticket win has outsized coattails. Granted, a lot of people somehow want to insist this election is a special case because Trump but lo and behold the guy with no loving campaign and inferior fundraising is taking a history-making asskicking in the polls after winning the GOP primary by taking the Palin strategy to its logical conclusion.
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I am actually kind of torn, cause I have a choice as to where to vote since I recently moved. Do I help GA flip blue or go home and vote against the turd in human form that is Richard Shelby. (Not actually torn, as a life long Alabamian I have a deep seated hatred for Shelby and Sessions)
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Emanuel Collective posted:I could see this happening in the Senate races, but the most vulnerable Senators have already distanced themselves from Trump. The problem is in the House, where the GOP has gerrymandered their districts to hell and back, requiring more than just widespread apathy to overcome the incumbent. You're asking a different question then. No, there's not a nationwide phenomenon that's strong enough to overcome the natural advantage the GOP has in the House of Representatives. This is also true in reverse - there's not a nationwide phenomenon (i.e., the Tea Party) that's strong enough to overcome the natural advantage of the Democrats in the Presidential race.
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emdash posted:some good autocorrect going on here, I think lol ironically while phone posting on the shitter edit: I am happy I finally trained my phone to autocorrect everything to "poo poo"
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LunarShadow posted:I am actually kind of torn, cause I have a choice as to where to vote since I recently moved. Do I help GA flip blue or go home and vote against the turd in human form that is Richard Shelby. (Not actually torn, as a life long Alabamian I have a deep seated hatred for Shelby and Sessions) Flip GA blue, Alabama will have its reckoning eventually. Also vote for where you actually live, don't give the GOP an opportunity to throw out your vote for bullshit reasons.
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Aug 9, 2016 14:51
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https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/763007182082306048 He raised 80m last month and so far we have no idea what he's spending it on. It isn't campaign infrastructure.
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Kulkasha posted:Flip GA blue, Alabama will have its reckoning eventually. Aren't there moves where where the from/to deadlines are misaligned to the point you can't legally vote in either?
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Aug 9, 2016 14:55
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zoux posted:He raised 80m last month and so far we have no idea what he's spending it on. It isn't campaign infrastructure. Scamming Con Artist gonna Scam.
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zoux posted:He raised 80m last month and so far we have no idea what he's spending it on. It isn't campaign infrastructure. Please. We know what he's spending it on. Any company that has Trump in the name. CommieGIR posted:Scamming Con Artist gonna Scam. I wonder if anyone bothered to tell him you can't keep any excess campaign money after the race is over?
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https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/763008129923686400 I guess we're going to find out if political ads matter at all.
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WampaLord posted:I wonder if anyone bothered to tell him you can't keep any excess campaign money after the race is over? I really hope he tries to launder it and he gets whacked by the FEC for stealing campaign funds.
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Clinton +2 in NC https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/763010051145658368?s=09
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/763008129923686400 Clinton is running primarily attack ads, I think. They know that her image isn't particularly the best (or why she tries to keep out of the spotlight) and is content to bash Trump at every angle. The Kids in front of the TV ad is pretty good, and the one of Trump on Letterman is good, too.
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Non-election news: https://twitter.com/evanasmith/status/763011881661587456 whaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/763007182082306048 Regardless that's pretty unprecedented
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computer parts posted:Voters have two options assuming they find Trump reprehensible: If you live in one of the (probably 25 or so) least competitive presidential states then you can vote however you want because you don't have a vote in the first place.
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Aug 9, 2016 15:06
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Hannity had a guy on to talk about taqqiya and how all Muslims are sleeper agents I hope his is one of the heads that rolls in the coming Fox Cataclysm.
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I wish I could see his face if Clinton wins with a Democrat majority Senate and he and the other Republicans are suddenly faced with either having to confirm Garland (just publicly wallowing in hypocrisy) or take their chances with a Clinton pick.
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Skeesix posted:Uh.... What? On my phone so I can't dig up quotes but he argued that Al-Assad's government used peaceful means to address protest in Syria and said that his brutality is a western narrative. Part of his evidence was that western media calls it Al-Assad's "regime" instead of "government." It's dumb as hell.
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Bip Roberts posted:If you live in one of the (probably 25 or so) least competitive presidential states then you can vote however you want because you don't have a vote in the first place. Republicans don't think like that though. If they did you'd see Gary Johnson get 25% of the vote in Oregon. More to the point though - they don't think like that because of the down-ballot effect, which is what I've been saying.
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From today's PPP poll. quote:69% of Trump voters think that if Hillary Clinton wins the election it will be because it was rigged, to only 16% who think it would be because she got more vote than Trump. More specifically 40% of Trump voters think that ACORN (which hasn't existed in years) will steal the election for Clinton. That shows the long staying power of GOP conspiracy theories. Republicans are objectively terrible in every way.
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It's the power fantasy of all the crazy anti-government types and/or racists out there to march up to the nearest authority figure and tell them "No, my way or nothing!" The Republicans really don't care about how they look to those who don't get starstruck by that childish idea or want government to function.
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NBC: Clinton has now outspent Trump $52mn to $0 on advertising http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/team-clinton-now-outspending-trump-ads-52-million-0-n626236
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:From today's PPP poll. To be fair, if ACORN was a national organization designed to secretly steal the election for Clinton, then pretending to be shut down 7 years ago is the smart play.
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So I haven't paid that much attention to cable news coverage of the election recently. What's the media reaction been to Trump's new "on-message" style, like his Detroit speech? Is it the big turning point for Trump, or are people finally remembering that he's Donald Trump?
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Harrow posted:So I haven't paid that much attention to cable news coverage of the election recently. What's the media reaction been to Trump's new "on-message" style, like his Detroit speech? Is it the big turning point for Trump, or are people finally remembering that he's Donald Trump? From what I can tell, bad news for Trump keeps coming in so fast that no one really gives a poo poo about the speech.
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Harrow posted:So I haven't paid that much attention to cable news coverage of the election recently. What's the media reaction been to Trump's new "on-message" style, like his Detroit speech? Is it the big turning point for Trump, or are people finally remembering that he's Donald Trump? The on-message style? Not seeing much about it. I am, however, seeing a lot of places bash the actual "plan".
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Harrow posted:So I haven't paid that much attention to cable news coverage of the election recently. What's the media reaction been to Trump's new "on-message" style, like his Detroit speech? Is it the big turning point for Trump, or are people finally remembering that he's Donald Trump? I think that was ruined by Trump accidentally saying the word "titties".
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Harrow posted:So I haven't paid that much attention to cable news coverage of the election recently. What's the media reaction been to Trump's new "on-message" style, like his Detroit speech? Is it the big turning point for Trump, or are people finally remembering that he's Donald Trump? It was going pretty well until the "Many people are saying Hillary's emails killed that one Iran guy" tweet.
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iospace posted:The on-message style? Not seeing much about it. I am, however, seeing a lot of places bash the actual "plan". That's what I hoped for: looking past the fact that he resisted making GBS threads himself in public and focusing on how the content of his speech was bullshit.
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Harrow posted:So I haven't paid that much attention to cable news coverage of the election recently. What's the media reaction been to Trump's new "on-message" style, like his Detroit speech? Is it the big turning point for Trump, or are people finally remembering that he's Donald Trump? Unlike most candidates where there are gaffes Trump is only notable when he utters an anti-gaffe. He's the p type semiconductor of candidates.
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I think the shine's worn off and everyone is just waiting for the next explosion. But beyond that, I don't think it will even matter, now. Trump got himself defined right after (and during) the RNC as Stupid and So Goddamn Crazy, and even if he finally actually managed THE PIVOT and it stuck, all we'd be left with is Warren G. Harding instead of Mussolini. Warren G. Harding ain't beating Clinton anymore than Benito.
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Harrow posted:That's what I hoped for: looking past the fact that he resisted making GBS threads himself in public and focusing on how the content of his speech was bullshit. CNN's headline this morning was "Kindler, Gentler Trump?" but now it's a speech fact check. The media is eager to run with whatever narrative the campaigns try and feed them that will make it look competitive. If Trump is -20 in mid-September and skipping debates, that's a worst-case scenario for cable news.
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zoux posted:CNN's headline this morning was "Kindler, Gentler Trump?" but now it's a speech fact check. I don't know, it feels like the media's turned on Trump since the conventions. I think everyone's tired of Trump and they'd rather cover a historic blowout rather than pretend this race will be close when it's clearly not.
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Just a heads up, but it won't shock me if some right wingers start playing up this dumb story here in Orlando about how the father of the Pulse nightclub shooter attended a Clinton rally yesterday in Kissimmee. Even though he came out immediately and condemned his son when the shooting happened.
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HorseRenoir posted:I don't know, it feels like the media's turned on Trump since the conventions. I think everyone's tired of Trump and they'd rather cover a historic blowout rather than pretend this race will be close when it's clearly not. The Trumpster fire is news, after all. I mean, doesn't the audience love seeing a heel finally get his poo poo stomped after he preens all over the stage and insults them for the first half?
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FlamingLiberal posted:Just a heads up, but it won't shock me if some right wingers start playing up this dumb story here in Orlando about how the father of the Pulse nightclub shooter attended a Clinton rally yesterday in Kissimmee. Even though he came out immediately and condemned his son when the shooting happened. They started that about two hours ago.
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