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Lightning Knight posted:In fairness to him, rigging a primary would be hypothetically way easier than a general election. The difference between Bernie rigged and Bullshit Right Wing rigged is the former was speaking out against supply side economics and captains of industry Totally Not Bribing our politicians with massive campaign donations. The latter is paid agents burning votes in a massive conspiracy because they hate America and want Queen Hillary to impose Sharia Law. That's a yooge difference in both meaning and plausibility.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:36
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Who had "veiled threat on Clinton's life" as part of the gaffe pool? You're owed some money
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Aug 9, 2016 20:37
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I'm guessing this is a good sign he is still not taking advice from his advisers.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:38
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He's just trying to distract from all the insane poo poo that's going to be said at the religious right conference he's speaking at in a few days.
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zoux posted:I mean we all know what he meant, but if you're a surrogate this all about the main stream media grasping for another Trump scandal after a bold, presidential speech yesterday. He clearly meant that second amendment activists should exercise their right to vote at the ballot OR he meant that the NRA and other gun lobbies could exert their considerable effort to beat Hillary That is that the meta context you get from, "Although the 2nd Amendment people maybe there is? I don't know." Trump Whisperer?
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haveblue posted:He's just trying to distract from all the insane poo poo that's going to be said at the religious right conference he's speaking at in a few days. I doubt this is going to top that, considering multiple members at that conference support death for gays and gay camps
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It's pretty clear he didn't think that line out. The "..I dunno" indicates he just threw that out without thinking since he's an amateur and says stupid things he's overheard. There's no amount of work his handlers can do to stop that sort of stuff because it's just a reflex he can't really control.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:39
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zoux posted:This is trivially easy to deflect and spin. So that's going to make the seven day controversy over it even more baffling. Trump can't deflect or spin anything effectively. His capabilities are limited to doubling down or pouting like a baby back bitch. He could have easily made the Khan family thing disappear in one news cyclce with some generic press release, but he's constitutionally incapable of doing anything like that, so all his mistakes snowball on him every time now that his audience isn't just creepy right wing primary voters.
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CommieGIR posted:What was that claim that Trump was turning a corner on gaffes? He turned the corner all right... straight into oncoming traffic. I don't think there's anything he could say that would shock me anymore, it's amazing really.
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Mr Hootington posted:That is that the meta context you get from, "Although the 2nd Amendment people maybe there is? I don't know." Trump Whisperer? What?
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Aug 9, 2016 20:40
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"When I said blood coming out of her whatever, I meant a gunshot wound." - Trump, apparently.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:40
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Aug 9, 2016 20:41
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zoux posted:I mean we all know what he meant, but if you're a surrogate this all about the main stream media grasping for another Trump scandal after a bold, presidential speech yesterday. He clearly meant that second amendment activists should exercise their right to vote at the ballot OR he meant that the NRA and other gun lobbies could exert their considerable effort to beat Hillary Not that easy since he prefaces the remark with the comment that if Hillary is elected there's nothing you can do to prevent those judges being elected. So saying that they would be trying to keep her from being elected is right out.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:42
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sean10mm posted:"When I said blood coming out of her whatever, I meant a gunshot wound." - Trump, apparently. Dear lord.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:43
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So, Trump's secret service protection team (...he has one by now, right? All nominees do?) is totally just keeping/reporting a running tally of dangerous/treasonous poo poo Trump says for their bosses by this point, right?
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Aug 9, 2016 20:43
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I'm like the most skeptical guy in the world of "no, you don't have to take that in the worst possible way" - and no, there's no other interpretation. He suggested people shoot Hillary Clinton with guns to stop her from nominating Supreme Court justices, there is no ambiguity.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:44
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Kayleigh McEnany on CNN just said it was obvious that he was referring to the NRA, the most powerful lobby in America, and that he was saying the NRA can use their polite non-violent lobbying powers to prevent Hillary from being elected. CLASSIC LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS STRIKES AGAIN. Everyone is just so mean to Trump, twisting his words all the time.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:45
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thefncrow posted:Not that easy since he prefaces the remark with the comment that if Hillary is elected there's nothing you can do to prevent those judges being elected. So saying that they would be trying to keep her from being elected is right out. Sure, I mean again we all know what he meant, but this is about plausible excuses, and a competent campaign would be able to spin this pretty easily. Of course a competent campaign and Trump can't exist in the same space so we'll never know, but you can see how past pols have spun similar jokes and it shakes out about like you figure: opponents don't buy it, supporters think opponents are grasping, something else happens, the end. Trump's going to keep bringing up this poo poo over and over and over though "can you believe they think I meant that?" so discussions of spin are more academic exercises for us rather than any kind of prediction. Aerox posted:Kayleigh McEnany on CNN just said it was obvious that he was referring to the NRA, the most powerful lobby in America, and that he was saying the NRA can use their polite non-violent lobbying powers to prevent Hillary from being elected. Oh it's already on CNN? Dope.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:46
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theflyingorc posted:I'm like the most skeptical guy in the world of "no, you don't have to take that in the worst possible way" - and no, there's no other interpretation. He suggested people shoot Hillary Clinton with guns to stop her from nominating Supreme Court justices, there is no ambiguity. Agreed. This is.. surreal.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:45
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It is really genuinely kind of loving terrifying how the Republican talking points this year have been "arrest or kill our political opponents."
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Aug 9, 2016 20:46
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zoux posted:What? You are wrong and reading too deep into Trump.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:46
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theflyingorc posted:I'm like the most skeptical guy in the world of "no, you don't have to take that in the worst possible way" - and no, there's no other interpretation. He suggested people shoot Hillary Clinton with guns to stop her from nominating Supreme Court justices, there is no ambiguity. Let's be fair, you could also take it as a call to murder any justice HRC might wish to name
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theflyingorc posted:I'm like the most skeptical guy in the world of "no, you don't have to take that in the worst possible way" - and no, there's no other interpretation. He suggested people shoot Hillary Clinton with guns to stop her from nominating Supreme Court justices, there is no ambiguity. Well, I suppose you could argue that he was actually advocating shooting the justices themselves. e: Yeah, what my predecessor said.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:47
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Mr Hootington posted:You are wrong and reading too deep into Trump. Read it again, he's saying "This is what trump supporters will think".
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Aug 9, 2016 20:48
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ImpAtom posted:It is really genuinely kind of loving terrifying how the Republican talking points this year have been "arrest or kill our political opponents." Do not worry. The
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Aug 9, 2016 20:48
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Mr Hootington posted:Do not worry. The Trump isn't planning any rallies in a beer hall soon is he?
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Nice always love the dp.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:50
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The classic "murder my opponent" GE pivot.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:50
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So... He literally joked on a national stage that one of his followers should totally just shoot his political opponent and presidential nominee. Seriously? Will the FBI show up at his doorstep now? I know they investigated people for way less. Remember that Ramirez cartoon where he depicted W. Bush as Nguyễn Văn Lém getting shot by a guy labeled media? The FBI was quite eager to have a conversation about that.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:51
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it's easy to tell when Trump's about to say the next super offensive thing it's IMMEDIATELY after you read an article talking about how it's safe to support him now, his recent behavior shows how presidential he is
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Aug 9, 2016 20:52
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Mr Hootington posted:Do not worry. The This is what one of my likely-Trump-voter relatives has said. 40% of America cannot be convinced because they literally refuse to believe Trump is saying anything he actually says. 40% of America literally is falling for the Big Lie.
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Air is lava! posted:So... He literally joked on a national stage that one of his followers should totally just shoot his political opponent and presidential nominee. Seriously? Will the FBI show up at his doorstep now? I know they investigated people for way less. Remember that Ramirez cartoon where he depicted W. Bush as Nguyễn Văn Lém getting shot by a guy labeled media? The FBI was quite eager to have a conversation about that. Any FBI investigation before the election will be the proof needed that the general is rigged. Trump will in fact get away with the "how dare you assume the words I use mean what they normally mean" excuse and blame this on the media.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:53
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this is an interesting case for the secret service I'm sure they'll get some good training out of this one
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Aug 9, 2016 20:54
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What happens when the Secret Service needs to pay a cautionary visit to someone who has Secret Service protection? Do they just call up his security detail and get them to handle it?
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Aug 9, 2016 20:55
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Ok, I'm starting to buy the "Trump's being forced to run against his will and wants to sabotage it" theory.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:55
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Well, this is 100% a thing https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/763093253260390400 Remember how every time Trump gets put on a leash to do a pivot speech the next day he tears it all down again?
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Aug 9, 2016 20:57
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ComradeCosmobot posted:This is what one of my likely-Trump-voter relatives has said. 40% of America cannot be convinced because they literally refuse to believe Trump is saying anything he actually says. 40% of America literally is falling for the Big Lie. It isn't a "Big Lie." It is "The Hard Truth About How It Really Is."
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/AoDespair/status/763092542665687043 His username is very appropriate.
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RZA Encryption posted:Ok, I'm starting to buy the "Trump's being forced to run against his will and wants to sabotage it" theory. Me too. Nothing else makes sense.
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