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WoodrowSkillson posted:Believing that the current system is so broken that the only solution is complete revolution and overhaul, and that those things only come about if poo poo get worse. Therefore vote for the people most likely to destabilize the status quo and thus prompt revolutionary change. Note that accelerationism tends to be supported most by first world suburbanites who have...naive ideas about how bad things could eventually get.
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Night10194 posted:Didn't a bunch of leftists legitimately think this in Weimar Germany and then get surprised when they ended up arrested by the nazis. technically it worked, just not how they wanted it to.
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iospace posted:What the gently caress is accelerationism anyway? The "we must destroy it in order to save it" doctrine of politics. Basically a mixture of privilege and naivete resulting in the belief that electing the worst option enough times will end up with socioeconomic collapse, allowing Full Communism Now to be built over the ashes. Now of course you might be thinking "isn't this a terrible idea due not only to the unspeakable suffering required but also that the likelihood of someone like Hitler rising from the rubble is greater than someone like Lenin doing so" and you'd probably be right but it's worth another try, this time the internet and bitcoins will make it different.
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Aug 10, 2016 18:49
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BigRed0427 posted:So Hillary's emails are back in the news. Larry "Failure to State a" Klayman does actually use at least some of the money to file suits, they just never go anywhere.
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Aug 10, 2016 18:51
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You know how some libertarian nerds fantasize about how they'll be the kings of the wasteland once the zombie apocalypse or whatever happens? Accelerationists are the left's equivalent. Society is strangling my innate ideological power, so once society is gone, my utopia will emerge.
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Aug 10, 2016 18:53
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FAUXTON posted:I wish I could donate to Hillary's campaign but there's a bunch of hoops I need to jump through for work (no idea whether it's an internal thing or a finra thing) in order to donate. Multiple levels of approval (the easy part), documentation, quarterly reporting, etc. You can donate less than $200 and it won't be publicly available on the FEC website if you are really committed to it and your work would bother to search for it.
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Aug 10, 2016 18:54
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Also, no matter how much we panic here, Trump will not start WW3. He would be incredibly damaging, but there are enough checks and balances that he would not actually guide us into oblivion. Voting for him just means you are callously uncaring towards millions of people who will be worse off.
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Aug 10, 2016 18:55
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The assassination of a single archbishop could never cause the entire world to go to war, don't worry about it.
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Precambrian posted:You know how some libertarian nerds fantasize about how they'll be the kings of the wasteland once the zombie apocalypse or whatever happens? Accelerationists are the left's equivalent. Society is strangling my innate ideological power, so once society is gone, my utopia will emerge. Eh, it's more of shitlords who have adopted a very strange definition of the word "compromise".
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Aug 10, 2016 18:57
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He wouldn't be starting World War III because the world would be too irradiated and dead to have one.
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sean10mm posted:Polls-only is "only" 84.7% Clinton! How long do we think it takes for a Trump statement to reflect in polls? Let's say he makes a dumb statement on a Tuesday afternoon. How long does that news take to saturate. 2 days? All polls have different methodologies, but I'm curious what some averages are for how long they take to complete, and how long the findings take to process before the results are reported out. It seems reasonable that you might have a week delay or so between a dumb statement and a movement in reported polls?
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Also, no matter how much we panic here, Trump will not start WW3. He would be incredibly damaging, but there are enough checks and balances that he would not actually guide us into oblivion. I was about to write "gently caress you", but then again, when the nukes drop there won't be anyone to fight. At all. This clown asked (unprompted) three times about nuclear launch codes in a 1 hour meeting.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Also, no matter how much we panic here, Trump will not start WW3. He would be incredibly damaging, but there are enough checks and balances that he would not actually guide us into oblivion. You say that, but to authorize a nuclear attack you need a) the President and b) the Secretary of Defense to authenticate the order to c) the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. a) nominates b) who nominates c) so I'm not seeing the strong "checks and balances" should a) in fact be a narcissistic nutbar. e: Also you have to consider the possibility of President Trump creating the crisis that leads to war rather than just the chance of him just going LOL NUKES out of nowhere. Does anybody trust him to handle a hypothetical Cuban Missile Crisis scenario without getting everyone killed? sean10mm fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Aug 10, 2016 |
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Aug 10, 2016 19:01
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Mozi posted:The assassination of a single archbishop could never cause the entire world to go to war, don't worry about it. Archbishop?
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SaintFu posted:Archbishop? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_war_1 (Archduke) Crain posted:So currently Assange is trying to coyly put it out that the dead DNC staffer was the source of the leak. .. implying that Wikileaks is incapable of protecting their sources? Assange is an rear end.
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iospace posted:If there's anyone on the face of the earth that hates the GOP more than her, present them to me and I'll buy you a bridge.
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Have Some Flowers! posted:How long do we think it takes for a Trump statement to reflect in polls? Let's say he makes a dumb statement on a Tuesday afternoon. How long does that news take to saturate. 2 days?
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Ugh, I hate living in South Florida. Good to see that this level of saturation isn't a nationwide thing, but still. I sometimes feel like I'm living in some sort of Truman Show-esque lab experiment down here.
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Schizotek posted:Ugh, I hate living in South Florida. Good to see that this level of saturation isn't a nationwide thing, but still. I sometimes feel like I'm living in some sort of Truman Show-esque lab experiment down here. I can't wait for the 2050 Season of the S. Florida Show.
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Aug 10, 2016 19:06
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Florida is a laboratory of democracy but unfortunately is a biological weapons lab.
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Aug 10, 2016 19:07
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SaintFu posted:Archbishop? Archbishop, Archduke, Arch Deluxe, what's the difference... My real point was you can't predict for sure what will spiral out of control so maybe try not to actively encourage unpredictability and chaos in a world that is already falling apart at the seams.
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Aug 10, 2016 19:09
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South Florida will be gone in a few decades so we may as well take advantage of it while we still can.
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Schizotek posted:Ugh, I hate living in South Florida. Good to see that this level of saturation isn't a nationwide thing, but still. I sometimes feel like I'm living in some sort of Trumane Show-esque lab experiment down here. Its impressive how many democrat ads I'm seeing just north of tampa. Even more impressive when I realize I have't seen a single pro republican ad yet. Edit: Even more so when the the incumbent is stepping down. An incumbent who was sherriff for half of my district and could run on name recognition alone. Elmnt80 fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Aug 10, 2016 |
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Phone posted:I can't wait for the 2050 Season of the S. Florida Show. At the rate sea levels are rising, South Florida will probably be canceled by then.
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http://i.imgur.com/rYkmJXr.gifv ok http://www.rawstory.com/2014/03/florida-man-has-sex-with-pit-bull-in-his-yard-as-neighbors-beg-him-to-stop/
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Crain posted:So currently Assange is trying to coyly put it out that the dead DNC staffer was the source of the leak. Yeah Trumps base is running with this guy being murdered by Hillary already.
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Mr Hootington posted:Yeah Trumps base is running with this guy being murdered by Hillary already. Well they already believe she killed Vince Foster when really it was Trump who did it! 
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Man his rap career really took a nose dive if he's letting dudes have sex with him on a lawn.
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iospace posted:What the gently caress is accelerationism anyway? The belief that had the Great Depression gotten worse before FDR took office we would be living in the Socialist Paradise of America.
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Crain posted:So currently Assange is trying to coyly put it out that the dead DNC staffer was the source of the leak. It's worth noting that the family of the dead DNC staffer just put out a statement asking Assange to please stop doing this. https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/763438914824790017/photo/1
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Precambrian posted:You know how some libertarian nerds fantasize about how they'll be the kings of the wasteland once the zombie apocalypse or whatever happens? Accelerationists are the left's equivalent. Society is strangling my innate ideological power, so once society is gone, my utopia will emerge. I prefer the mountain man analogy. Libertarians fetishize mountain men; rugged individuals who carve out their own home from the wilderness, feed off the land, marry submissive squaws who cater to their every whim and only go into town to sell their goods and restock their supplies. Its that last part that really messes with their ideology; their has to be a market for their goods and a store to buy supplies which means their has to be a supply line, which means their has to be a government to protect the supply line, which means there has to be taxes to pay for the protection of the supply line, which means.......well you get the point.
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Mozi posted:The assassination of a single archduke could never cause the entire world to go to war, don't worry about it. Well that's not a great analogy because in that case there were a bunch of intricate mutual defense alliances, rampant military spending and rising non-traditional global powers vying for dom- Holy poo poo.
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DaveWoo posted:It's worth noting that the family of the dead DNC staffer just put out a statement asking Assange to please stop doing this. How much were they paid to keep quiet? Or were they threatened?!
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DaveWoo posted:It's worth noting that the family of the dead DNC staffer just put out a statement asking Assange to please stop doing this. They should petition the Kremlin. Assange is responding to allegations of being a Kremlin mouthpiece by trying to obfuscate by bringing up the death of an unrelated person. It's beyond despicable.
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DaveWoo posted:It's worth noting that the family of the dead DNC staffer just put out a statement asking Assange to please stop doing this. Do they really think the asshat who responded to his own staff asking to black out the names of at-risk people with 'Collaborators deserve to die' has enough of a sense of decency or conscience to listen to their heartfelt plea to stop using their dead son for attention?
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Night10194 posted:Do they really think the asshat who responded to his own staff asking to black out the names of at-risk people with 'Collaborators deserve to die' has enough of a sense of decency or conscience to listen to their heartfelt plea to stop using their dead son for attention? No but it absolutely poisons this conspiracy theory that is just now starting to get some MSM traction. Mostly in the "here's what crackpot Julian Assange is saying now" but it needs to be ridiculed out of the national discourse.
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Night10194 posted:Do they really think the asshat who responded to his own staff asking to black out the names of at-risk people with 'Collaborators deserve to die' has enough of a sense of decency or conscience to listen to their heartfelt plea to stop using their dead son for attention? Nope. But as Zoux said, poisons it. Though Steven's mom wants people to stop politicizing Benghazi and look where that went. 
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Schizotek posted:Ugh, I hate living in South Florida. Good to see that this level of saturation isn't a nationwide thing, but still. I sometimes feel like I'm living in some sort of Truman Show-esque lab experiment down here.
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BigRed0427 posted:So Hillary's emails are back in the news. 1) The lawyer on the lawsuit is Larry Klayman, better known for filing dozens of lawsuits against the Clintons in the 90s and also for suing his own mother. He almost certainly talked the families into it in another desperate attempt to prove some stupid conservative talking point. The dude is legitimately as crazy as Orly Taitz, who he has also attempted to sue. 2) Not really, no. And Judicial Watch was in fact founded by Larry Klayman, until they kicked him out in the early 2000s. He tried to sue them, too, a few years later.
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radical meme posted:I prefer the mountain man analogy. Libertarians fetishize mountain men; rugged individuals who carve out their own home from the wilderness, feed off the land, marry submissive squaws who cater to their every whim and only go into town to sell their goods and restock their supplies. Its that last part that really messes with their ideology; their has to be a market for their goods and a store to buy supplies which means their has to be a supply line, which means their has to be a government to protect the supply line, which means there has to be taxes to pay for the protection of the supply line, which means.......well you get the point. Libertarianism simply boils down to selfishness. It's ideologically equivalent to "don't get me a gift for my birthday because I don't want to reciprocate".
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