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It's great when sci-fi is all like "What if racism happened to robots? Wouldn't think it was so great then, would you?"
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Gail Wynand posted:This is almost as dumb as when people went after them for using the term "mechanical apartheid" and it turned out that a French African dude came up with it I'm not 100% tracking on this one. Are you saying that Deus Ex using Aug Lives Matter and Mechanical Apartheid is fine/not offensive? I personally think it's slightly gross for using BLM as the template, but it's fairly obvious that it isn't a thin coat of paint like with All/Blue/Coal/Ball "spin offs". I actually don't have a strong attachment to the games, I just know that they're mechanically robust and the narratives being told are head and shoulders above most video game scripts. Supercar Gautier posted:It's great when sci-fi is all like "What if racism happened to robots? Wouldn't think it was so great then, would you?" It's even greater when morons find out that most sci-fi are allegories for contemporary problems/issues and whine that "social skeleton warriors are ruining my sci-fi". Phone fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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Aug 11, 2016 19:22
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Supercar Gautier posted:It's great when sci-fi is all like "What if racism happened to robots? Wouldn't think it was so great then, would you?" all scifi is is clumsily applying modern social issues to space monsters and robots i'm struggling to see why the Deus Ex thing is offensive. It's no more so than X-men mapping themselves to minority issues.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:22
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berserker posted:edit: god drat Giuliani is such a piece of poo poo It's pretty clear that Giuliani would be a not only willing but EAGER Himmler or Goehring to Trump's Hitler. Newt would be a Happy Goebbels. One of the really disturbing things in this election is how it clearly illustrates how many of your friends and neighbors would be a willing mob of torch wielding Red Hats, just looking to be told what windows to smash and what people to trample. As far as Trump recovering in the polls, here's what limits it: The lowest knuckle dragging rednecks (the folks who would not be afraid to be depicted on camera saying "kill the bitch") will never leave him. Let's say that's 30-35% (and I WISH it wasn't that high). But the respectable Republicans with a little money and education, the ones that read the Wall Street Journal over breakfast in Shaker Heights, OH, Grosse Point, MI, Falls Church VA etc., when they or their wives flee the Trump mob because "Holy poo poo just LOOK at that guy", they won't come back. Most of them will probably just not vote, or vote for Gary Johnson just because their lizard brain tells them they CAN'T vote for Clinton, but they won't come back to Trump. So you say "but that's a minority of Republicans", but they live in the swingy states and will keep places like VA and PA out of reach for Trump and make FL a much tougher mountain to climb. By the way, how many Red State goons are suddenly hearing a lot of righties talk up the virtues of Gary Johnson? I know I am. I say nothing, but nod gently, while a subtle smile plays across my lips.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:24
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What I get out of this Deus Ex thing is, I think the devs want the veneer of credibility that comes from alluding to real-world issues, but the last thing they ever ever want is to actually engage with those issues or to have their game evaluated on how well it does that. The game's creators have even commented that they want to leave the issue open for the player to decide their position, which seems kinda crass and cowardly when you're invoking a topic as specific and serious as BLM.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:25
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I show lefties who are considering Johnson as a protest vote all kinds of poo poo illustrating how terrible he is, but right wingers I just leave alone.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:26
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Boon posted:So correct me if I'm wrong, but the Dems need to pick up a minimum of 4 seats in order to push through the SCOTUS picks, 5 to make sure the VP continues to be irrelevant. Indiana is a probable pick up now. Based on Q-Polls (which skew right), Ohio is a good pick up opportunity, but will come down to turn out (advantage D). NC seems like a possible shot to, depending on turnout. Fla is very close, and I think will depend on how well Rubio can quarantine himself from Trump. Nevada is iffy, but could also come down to Latino turnout, which is hard to poll. Missouri and Arizona could also come into play, but by the time those seats flip Dems have crushed Republicans.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:28
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theflyingorc posted:i'm struggling to see why the Deus Ex thing is offensive. It's no more so than X-men mapping themselves to minority issues.
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Zwabu posted:It's pretty clear that Giuliani would be a not only willing but EAGER Himmler or Goehring to Trump's Hitler. Newt would be a Happy Goebbels. I've heard a little bit of Johnson praise here, but mostly the GOP around me are throwing in with Trump because they are so scared that racial unrest is suddenly coming back and Trump will protect them from Mexican criminals with his magic wall. They think it's so unfair the media is calling him racist when Killlary is murdering babies. I live in Arkansas, so I've long since learned to just not discuss politics because most voters here are either bigots or morons.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:31
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Indiana is a probable pick up now. Arizona is more likely to flip than Missouri. McCain threw in his lot with Trump and now the dems are /hammering/ him for it. HRC Camp support is also a boon for the dems there.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:32
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iospace posted:Arizona is more likely to flip than Missouri. McCain threw in his lot with Trump and now the dems are /hammering/ him for it. HRC Camp support is also a boon for the dems there. Yeah I think AZ is more likely, but I don't think either is likely unless it's a wash for R's OR if McCain gets primaried.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:35
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Yeah I think AZ is more likely, but I don't think either is likely unless it's a wash for R's OR if McCain gets primaried. When is the Arizona primary anyway?
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Aug 11, 2016 19:35
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iospace posted:When is the Arizona primary anyway? August 30
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Aug 11, 2016 19:37
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The last poll on RCP of the general has them tied, but that was from June.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:38
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I've been listening to that Obama playlist. The few songs I haven't heard before like Me Gustas Tu are pretty good, in addition to all the great classics I already knew, but man, that lovely Edward Sharpe song really breaks up an otherwise good playlist. I managed to forget about it, thanks for ruining that Obama.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:41
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Phone posted:It's even greater when morons find out that most sci-fi are allegories for contemporary problems/issues and whine that "social skeleton warriors are ruining my sci-fi". Is this some new SJW permutation I've never heard of, or some truly inspired autocorrection?
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Aug 11, 2016 19:42
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I've been listening to that Obama playlist. The few songs I haven't heard before like Me Gustas Tu are pretty good, in addition to all the great classics I already knew, but man, that lovely Edward Sharpe song really breaks up an otherwise good playlist. I managed to forget about it, thanks for ruining that Obama.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:43
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Indiana is a probable pick up now. Indiana is as close to a lock as you're going to get right now. Bayh is the platonic ideal of swing/lean R state Democratic wet dream. Ohio is not going to happen. Strickland has gotten owned by Portman so far and still has the stink of 2010 on him. Portman has 9 points on him right now, and short of Portman having an Akin-level gaffe (unlikely since he's trying to reinvent himself as a protectionist and Civil Rights-friendly R) Strickland has nothing going for him. For gently caress's sake, Strickland literally said Scalia's death "happened at a good time". He and Lee Fisher both deserve to be shot into the sun for murdering the chance for state-level Ds for the next 4 years. NC is going to depend entirely on how badly Mayor McCheese and the state-level Rs look for the next few months because the turnout will be as D-friendly as possible right now. Rubio has pretty openly embraced Trump the past few weeks, so he's certainly vulnerable. Nevada will have the bonus of Reid getting louder the next couple months, but I'm inclined to say Indiana, Wisconsin, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire are all far more likely to flip than it. Arizona is not happening. McCain has that state by the balls indefinitely and has a level of ingrained campaign infrastructure you aren't likely to be able to touch. Frankly, given his age and the fact that he's been iffy about the Trump business and kissed the ring out of convenience over conviction, I don't think that's the worst situation either since I get the feeling he may be more pliable for Clinton and open to some legacy-preserving moves for himself since I can't see him running again after this year. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see him gone, but he's not the serious loving problem that, say, Ron Johnson could be for getting poo poo done. Missouri probably won't happen barring an Akin-level gaffe as well. McCaskill was dead in the water there until the act of God and even that was way closer than people want to admit.
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Luigi Thirty posted:What about in Admiralty courts? In ADMIRalTy couRTS it,, all [magical] (words) when you're a FREE MAN ON THE LAND and a SOVEREIGN MAN
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Aug 11, 2016 19:43
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iospace posted:When is the Arizona primary anyway? Right now. Early ballots are mailed out, election day is on the 30th. I say right now because early voting is a substantial portion of the vote.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:44
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happyhippy posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBETeDjfBLs "Put down the phone and lets get to business" *holds up fists* I wonder what Angelina Jolie has to say about Voight doing that
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FactsAreUseless posted:Which one? They're not a band with one lovely song. Home. "Alabama, Arkansas, I do love my Ma and Pa Not the way that I do love you" Jesus, those lyrics.
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Aug 11, 2016 19:46
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Trump's going sans teleprompter at American Renewal Project now
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Home.
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Now let's find out who this Edward Sharpe REALLY is! *pulls off mask* Mumford and Sons?!
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TheGreyGhost posted:Ohio is not going to happen. Strickland has gotten owned by Portman so far and still has the stink of 2010 on him. Portman has 9 points on him right now, and short of Portman having an Akin-level gaffe (unlikely since he's trying to reinvent himself as a protectionist and Civil Rights-friendly R) Strickland has nothing going for him. For gently caress's sake, Strickland literally said Scalia's death "happened at a good time". He and Lee Fisher both deserve to be shot into the sun for murdering the chance for state-level Ds for the next 4 years. Q-Poll, which leans right, has it within MOE. TheGreyGhost posted:NC is going to depend entirely on how badly Mayor McCheese and the state-level Rs look for the next few months because the turnout will be as D-friendly as possible right now. TheGreyGhost posted:Rubio has pretty openly embraced Trump the past few weeks, so he's certainly vulnerable. He's running against a real boring dude TheGreyGhost posted:Nevada will have the bonus of Reid getting louder the next couple months, but I'm inclined to say Indiana, Wisconsin, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire are all far more likely to flip than it. Joe Heck is a moron and not greatly loved by the state Republican party. TheGreyGhost posted:Arizona is not happening. McCain has that state by the balls indefinitely and has a level of ingrained campaign infrastructure you aren't likely to be able to touch. Frankly, given his age and the fact that he's been pissy about the Trump business, I don't think that's the worst situation either since I get the feeling he may be more pliable for Clinton and open to some legacy-preserving moves for himself since I can't see him running again after this year. McCain does not have "arizona by the balls." He's been consistently close in polling and facing a tough primary. TheGreyGhost posted:Missouri probably won't happen barring an Akin-level gaffe as well. McCaskill was dead in the water there until the act of God and even that was way closer than people want to admit. That's categorically untrue, and Roy Blount is nto well liked, but MO is on the low-end of happening.
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Report from Ohio: I finally saw a pro-Strickland ad last night rather than an anti-Portman ad. AFSCME has been hammering Portman for being pro-China constantly and I don't think its working. They need to hammer Portman for endorsing Trump. Nobody has held his feet to the fire yet. I don't think Strickland is likely to win unless things really look truly hopeless for Trump and R turnout is low. Ohio has a lot of angry white people that lost manufacturing jobs and are huge Trump supporters now despite being reliable Democratic voters. Its pretty odd.
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Mahoning posted:Report from Ohio: I finally saw a pro-Strickland ad last night rather than an anti-Portman ad. AFSCME has been hammering Portman for being pro-China constantly and I don't think its working. They need to hammer Portman for endorsing Trump. Nobody has held his feet to the fire yet. The Magical White Voter. Seriously, this is the same dumb thinking that thinks Trump can "win the Rust belt"
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:McCain does not have "arizona by the balls." He's been consistently close in polling and facing a tough primary. I don't know how much campaign signs count for, but if signs could vote, Kelli Ward would be winning.
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https://twitter.com/jacobkornbluh/status/763808522781982720
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If the election happened right now Strickland would get beat soundly, but at the same time Portman's been doing ads for months while for most voters the only reason you'd even know Strickland was running is that Portman's done anti-Strickland ads. A lot can happen in 3 months though, but it'll take a lot of work on Strickland/Clinton/Trump's part.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I don't know how much campaign signs count for, but if signs could vote, Kelli Ward would be winning. Not much, tbqf -- and polling senate primary races is, unreliable crap shoot at best -- but most people seem to believe that he has a tough primary ahead of him. He could also skate through the primary, but the general was polling tight earlier and AZ is in play for HRC.
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Hillary's Economic Policy speech Can't wait to vote against this guy, still can't believe that he beat Daschle quote:"He needs to be a serious candidate. He's our nominee, he needs to start acting like our nominee and I think the sooner he does that the more it's going to help all of our down-ballot nominees," Thune said. "It would be enormously helpful if we had a nominee that every single day we could get up and support rather than have to get up and explain what his statement were yesterday." Setting such a high bar! Saeka fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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Hey man, you can't just go about posting Idris Elba without a warning like that. Some of us are trying to maintain our position on the Kinsey scale without swooning over one of the sexiest men alive. But in all seriousness, those of you who haven't seen the live action preview they filmed for Deus Ex, should do so. It's pretty harsh watching a family get torn apart like that.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:McCain does not have "arizona by the balls." He's been consistently close in polling and facing a tough primary. If anyone has AZ by the balls it's Joe Arpaio. 
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Trump thinks he's tied in Florida in the polls.
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WampaLord posted:Trump thinks he's tied in Florida in the polls. He counted yard signs though!
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