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This isn't true anymore. They changed Paralysis in EO2U to only disable evasion if the target can't act. Meaning that it's much worse than Blind now.
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Paralysis: Paralyzed targets have around a 50% chance to do nothing for a turn, which is determined at the start of the turn. Paralysis also completely disables evasion.
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Update 65: Drake  No point in hiding that we're going to be fighting a boss, really. Let's get moving.    SYSTEM: The small, faint figure must be the innkeeper's daughter. It was the quest you accepted at the bar that brought you here... You came to find the little girl's whereabouts. She is crouched over, working intensely on something.  SYSTEM: She straightens as you approach, and you can see that her hands are full of white clover. SYSTEM: You smile and gently warn her of the danger she may have faced. SYSTEM: You kindly pat her on the head and praise her for her efforts before taking her home.   SYSTEM: You have no notion of when it appeared, but you now face a powerful adversary. Three necks, spear-sharp horns, foul yellow eyes, blue scales... The being before you is a dragon! SYSTEM: You freeze, seeing that its claws are clutching the innkeeper's daughter... She is breathing, but unconscious. She must not have had time even to scream... SYSTEM: The dragon's twelve eyes pierce through you, and its three heads give a mocking howl! You clutch your ears at the high, screeching noise as the dragon soars into the sky! You attempt to give chase, but it disappears into the northeast side of the forest. The situation is grim... The girl's life is in the grasp of the blue dragon! At that moment, as it had before, the Ice King's Book in your backpack begins to tremble and shake. Could it be that this book is reacting to the blue dragon? Perhaps if you go to the Ice King's tomb, you may be able to see the dragon and the girl again... There's no time to waste! If you want to save the girl, then head over to the Ice King's tomb right away!   Good thing that earlier quest already made us go through the secret area. SYSTEM: The innkeeper's daughter lies unmoving at its feet...   VIDEO: Boss Fight: Blizzard King   In case you need a refresher on the Blizzard King's stats: quote:
 I have a very specific plan in mind here, and it somewhat hinges on an arm bind to reduce the Blizzard King's normal attack damage.   Ranger'll just dish out pain from the get-go.  Stardust prepares to dish out pain.  Milly does her usual things.  I could probably just use Madness Curse here, but I really don't want someone crucial dying to a normal attack, and a head bind means the Blizzard King just does nothing for this turn.   Ooh, that was somewhat lucky.   The Blizzard King is not going to get to do a single thing to me this entire fight.   Well, that's over one-tenth of the BK's HP just gone in one action.  Things are gonna get really ugly for the BK starting next turn.  I'm gonna inflict panic on this turn anyway, but why not give myself the chance to use Ecstasy?  Shock Fantasia lowering the BK's volt resistance means Ranger and Stardust are going to inflict severe pain.  Already mentioned I was gonna do this.  Death is imminent.  Kinda because of that.   But mostly because of that.   Doing that much damage to the BK in such a short timespan usually means I'd have everyone hold off on this turn for fear of Mirror Shield, but the panic negates that problem.  Just in case Freyja and Stardust don't put the BK at near-death levels of HP this turn.  It's frankly kind of disgusting how much both Creeping Curse and Black Mist propel Hexers into being one of the best classes, honestly.  Freyja isn't even hitting an elemental weakness here and she's still dealing more than either Ranger or Stardust.  If the Blizzard King isn't near death, I'll be very surprised.  A minor annoyance now, potentially run-ending if I actually let the BK do anything.  Okay, yeah, that's low enough.   Time to put the BK out of its misery.   Jesus H. Christ.    SYSTEM: The ice dragon falls at last to your final strike! Victory! You have defeated one of the Labyrinth's strongest monsters, and saved the girl!  SYSTEM: The innkeeper's daughter rubs her eyes as you help her up. You let out a long-held breath, which subsides into a shaky laugh. SYSTEM: You see now that the smiling girl is holding the Pure Auratum you gave to her previously.   SYSTEM: Once the light fades, you see that she is holding a pure white whip! It is intricately decorated, and a marvel to behold. This is the Frost Whip, the favored weapon of the Ice King. He has deemed you worthy... Congratulations! You have bested the ice dragon, and gained the most powerful whip in the land! SYSTEM: The girl stares down at the weapon in her hands, unsure of how to react--blinking in utter confusion. SYSTEM: The girl hands you the whip with a timid smile, and you accept the whip and her gratitude that she presents you.  The Frost Whip has all of +2 ATK on the Queen's Whip...but, it's still a little more ATK in exchange for losing a secondary attribute I don't care about. Freyja equips this after we finish this cutscene. Oh, yeah, our level cap got raised up to 90 now. That's neat.  The game automatically takes us back to town here.        Look at all of that EXP. The level ups are completely uninteresting, so I skipped them. In fact, from here on out, I'm gonna skip all level ups because there's basically nothing new in them.   It's a bit of shame I didn't get the scale here. C'est la vie.  And before we end, Hanna has some words for us. Well, that certainly was something resembling a mini-adventure. Next time: we advance further into the Forbidden Wood, with 28F.
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Bonus: Blizzard King Now that Ragnar Homsar covered the Blizzard King (And told me he had no intention of showing off what I'm about to show you myself), I thought I would show off an alternative method of taking it down.      Here's my party setup for the fight. I'm not using the Story party for this, because I can't do what I'm about to do with them. Oh, I realize that their levels are unusual, but just trust me on this. Anyways, let's start the fight.   I'm gonna have my Landsknecht use War Cry, which boosts the amount of physical and elemental damage a row deals by 35%, but unfortunately causes them to take 20% more damage from physical and elemental attacks.   Gonna have my Beast use True Endurance.   And gonna have my Hexer curse the thing.  My Hexer is too slow for what I want her to do, so I'm having my Survivalist use Swap Step on my Hexer so she can move before the Blizzard King.  My Gunner is completely useless for this fight. I only brought him so that my team would have 5 people in it.          BAM! DEAD.   Oh and the best part is, Curse damage is Untyped + the damage type of the original attack, so I snagged its conditional drop as well! Not only that, Curse damage breaks the damage cap. (Which is normally 99,999.)  Anyways, here's a more detailed look on how I pulled this off. I needed the triple Curse damage food, otherwise the Blizzard King wouldn't have been one shot like that.  Speed Up was to ensure that my Landsknecht would get off War Cry in time.  Which was used to increase the amount of damage my Beast took, so that the Blizzard King would take more Curse damage.   My Beast needed a shield skill Grimoire, so that they could equip the Slaughter Shield. With the Fullface Helm, my Beast would be taking 2.3 times the damage from all attacks.    I just basically tried to increase my chances of landing Curse as much as possible. Oh and as for why my Hexer was at such a high level, it was because LUC has a pretty massive effect on inflicting stuff. (Unlike in EO2 where the boost was pretty negligible.)   My Survivalist had Swap Step so my Hexer could get off Corrupt Curse in time. My 5th party member was purely so that Ice Breath would hit my Beast 5 times. Sadly, you can't really use this strategy on too many bosses. Atlus knew about this interaction, and made it so that most bosses are really resistant or outright immune to Curse, despite it being a useless ailment in all the other EO games. Blizzard King is the only dragon this works on too, the other two are immune to Curse.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Good thing that earlier quest already made us go through the secret area. There's some dialogue here before the fight that's missing. Also, 100,422 damage with Curse?? 
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Always a pleasure to see those jokers again 
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Update 30: A Rocky Opponent     And here's the last of the teas.  Let's drink it.  ......A very grassy and bitter taste hits your tongue...!  Uhh, let's not drink it. Dialogue merges here.  Hoo boy, the Yggdrasil Clover Tea. What it does is triple all exp gain, which includes quest and mission exp! Not only that, any party members that are at the guild get all the exp your main party gets as well! (This is useless for Story Mode.) Oh and here's the last audio only conversation that plays in Cafe. Anyways, let's get on with exploring the 4th Stratum.      Considering the size of the nest and its location in this forest of powerful beasts, it is undoubtedly a dreadful bird indeed. You keep in mind the possibility that you may encounter this bird in your travels...     You may valiantly stand up to the bird, or retreat from the room. The birds in this stratum will chase after you, but if you can shake them off, they'll just go back to the nearest nest. You'll have to utilize that behavior to get past them.   You may be able to get what's in the tree to fall by shaking its branches...  Shake shake! You try shaking the tree, but the many other branches along the way keep the object from reaching the ground.  SHAKE SHAKE! You don't have time for half-measures, and shake the tree with all your might! Just as the trunk began to creak, something small falls down upon you... Though your guildmates are vexed by the shower of caterpillars, you are certain of one thing... With just a bit more effort, you will have your prize! With that certainty in mind, you stop shaking the tree... and tackle it instead! Along with the downpour of hairy caterpillars comes a bit of material!  You happily report this unexpected result to your guildmates. For some reason, the others do not seem to rejoice over your valuable find. Arianna's comment finally causes you to notice that you have broken out in red rashes. At last, the pain hits you...  You thank Arianna for her thoughtfulness. Once Flavio has regained consciousness, you return to your exploration. Before I go up to the 17th floor, here's an audio only conversation that can play in the 4th Stratum.   And we're done with this floor.   New floor, time to go back to talk to the townspeople and accept new quests.   Dialogue merges here. Well, only a few townspeople. From this point on, a lot of the town dialogue is the same as in Classic's. Mainly because the story itself slows down heavily at this point. But here's the last audio only conversation for this place in Story mode. Now let's go take a nap.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Next up is Flavio.      https://gfycat.com/FlashyCreativeDrafthorse.webm What Flavio says here is actually dependent upon what you said back in that conversation at Ginnungagap B3F.    It is late, and you decide to rest in preparation for tomorrow...   And here's the last audio only conversation for the Explorer's Guild. Okay, let's get back to exploring.   Chloe seems to be saying, in her way, that the mushroom is worth eating despite the risks. There is nothing preventing you from eating the cute mushroom if you wish.  Let's eat the mushroom. You pick the mushroom and break off its cap before putting it into your mouth. The mushroom tastes wonderful on your tongue as you bite into it. It might taste even better roasted... Just thinking about that brings a wide smile to your face. You hadn't intended to beam so brightly... You try moving your cheek muscles to tone down the smile. Nothing happens, however. You cannot now remember why you would restrain yourself from smiling at all. You feel so elated and euphoric that you see no need to hold back, and begin to laugh until your sides ache! Even your friend's face as he tries desperately to calm you down is hilarious to you. Before your eyes, the forest becomes a delightful landscape of vibrant color. A thought occurs to you... The delicious mushroom is still in your hand. Shouldn't you share it with your guildmates...?  Chloe said she wanted to eat some mushrooms, right? Since Chloe rarely changes her expression, you feel she should share this experience with you. You smile heartily as you force the mushroom into the girl's mouth! The black-robed girl is perplexed by your sudden action, but munches gamely on the mushroom as she cocks her head. With that, the black-robed girl finishes chewing and swallows the mushroom. It didn't go exactly as you intended, but Chloe seems to be having fun... as far as you can tell. Both of you giggle goofily at each other for a while, until you suddenly feel very sleepy and fall unconscious. Fade to black.  Neither of you remembers anything that happened after eating the mushroom. All you know is that your heads hurt.   You feel foolish for having ate what you found in the forest, and return to your exploration still clutching your head. In Classic mode, if you have a Beast in the party, you can avoid that outcome entirely. Unfortuantely Story mode gets the short end of the stick here, as there's no way to avoid the HP and TP loss whatsoever.   This event starts as soon as you step on this tile. All you can do is cower in fear before this monster that men call a nightmare... But this is no dream! You must rouse yourself from your stupor and choose what action to take! You may avert your eyes from the nightmare you behold, or stand and face it.  Trying to sneak away results in getting blindsided, and I'd rather not have a repeat of THAT INCIDENT. You each take your weapons in hand to stand against this dreadful threat! There is only one way to awaken from this nightmare: to slay the monster!   I proceed to kill it. Oh and there's no after battle dialogue. So if you're wondering what the heck just happened? Okay, so in EO1, once you beat the game, it spits out a password you can put in at the start of EO2 to import your EO1 party to get bonuses in EO2. And penalties. They're Atlus games after all. One of those penalties was the Etria's Nightmare event, which couldn't be seen if you didn't import a party in from EO1. In the original game, you were pitted against a bunch of Petaloids, a bunch of merely annoying enemies in EO1, which got upgraded to extremely deadly encounters in EO2. Essentially that event was purely a screw you if you played the first game. Now EO2U severed that connection between EO1 and 2. There's no way to import your EOU party into EO2U, and the EO2U Story party are not the same people in EOU's Story mode. But for some reason they kept that event, and labeled the Hurt Babirusa (A strong enemy in EOU's 5th Stratum) as Etria's nightmare instead of the Petaloids. It feels incredibly shoehorned in, and honestly that event should have been scrapped, or rewritten from scratch.   The lustrous fruits shine like gems, swaying in the wind as if enticing you to pick them. You may eat the fruits or ignore them.  If you're having flashbacks to explosive fruits (long story), worry not. They're safe to eat. As you reach towards gem-like fruits, you feel a deadly gaze trained upon you! Could the monsters have gathered to eat these fruits...? They growl menacingly as they charge directly at you!  I kill them easily.  You follow Flavio in checking your surroundings, but there seem to be no more of the monsters. You each pick the lustrous, red fruits for yourselves. You bite into the red fruit, whose sweet juices are pleasing on the tongue... The fruit's captivating taste and small size cause you to eat one after another off the tree. The delicious fruits were greatly effective in soothing your exhaustion!  You all agree that it is worth remembering this place as you go on your way deeper into the maze of cherry blossoms.    As someone who's played the original EO2, it's a bit strange seeing a bunch of weak random encounters promoted to tough FOEs. (That rhino was merely a trash mob in the first Stratum in the original game.)  You decide to exercise care while moving on, while paying close attention to the giant monster.   I get its attention.       AHAHAHA! Dumb rhino fell down a hole!You decide to keep careful track of the topography and the monster's positions as you go.    Why wouldn't I kick a rock?   Oh, that's why. ...You have no rejoinder to this. You leave the area, regretting your impulsiveness.   Oh we are not done here.  Last time, it only brought you injury, but there's no guarantee that the same will happen this time. You may pit yourself against the stone once more, if you wish to prove the previous loss was only a fluke.  No way I'm letting a little rock get the best of me.  You ignore Flavio's confused remarks and take some calm, clear breaths before kicking the stone with gusto! The stone goes flying before ricocheting back from a tree, just like last time! However, you have anticipated this, and devised a counter strategy...  Dive! Dive! You dive forward to dodge the stone as it passes overhead, using your momentum to execute and elegant forward roll! “Nailed it," you think to yourself... From behind, you hear the “clink" of a stone falling to the ground. You have overcome your prior limitations!  With a sense of deep satisfaction, you return to exploring.   And here's the end of this floor.   And a new floor means going back to town yet again.  ...After I finish gathering up 8 Arc branches for the Before the festivities quest. You have collected everything required for the quest. All that remains is to return to the bar to report your success.  And here's the last audio only conversation for the inn. Now why don't we get to sleep?  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Next up is Chloe.         Alone again in your room, you have only the silence for company. You decide to rest in preparation for tomorrow.   And here's the last audio only conversation in the Grand Duchy. Oh one last thing, if you already fulfilled the request for The item trade III quest, this happens. And back into the Labyrinth we go.   As you're investigating the area, Chloe tugs on your sleeve and points. What she is attempting to show you is a depression in the tree where a sticky fluid has pooled. You are somewhat curious as to how it might taste...  Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow, we die. The tree sap is extremely sweet and cures your fatigue!  ...Really, ga-actually I guess that wasn't really a plot point in the original game. This is a reference to a specific character from EOU. Arianna's fascination with the sap does not surprise you, as its sweetness is truly divine. However... it seems you weren't the only ones drawn to this delectable sap. As you reach towards the sap again, you feel a chill down your spine! As you cautiously check the area, Flavio gives a strangled cry. You look at what his trembling finger points towards... For what you find are the many-legged insects that Flavio despises more than anything! As Flavio is almost in tears, for his sake you take your weapons in hand and face the insects!  This would be a really mean encounter if I didn't outfit everyone with Owl Earrings. In fact I recommend having those be your party's accessory of choice due to how deadly Panic is as an ailment. Anyways, I manage to take them out easily.  The ambush by the monsters Flavio hates so seems to have drained his energy, as he slumps to the ground. It's times like these when you most want some of that sweet sap to cure your fatigue, but alas, there is none left... However, when you look to the recession in the tree, you find that sap is slowly pooling once again. At this rate, there will be enough for you all to enjoy again by dawn tomorrow.  You note this place down on your map and return to your investigation, already looking forward to tasting the sap again.   You can brush away the web and save the butterfly, or simply leave it to its fate.  Funny little fact about this event in the original. There was a butterfly that would lead you down a pitfall if you tried to catch it. (Pitfalls are no longer in EO2U.) That same butterfly would then get caught in a spider's web, so you could leave it to its fate as comeuppance if you chose to. Though there was a benefit to helping it out back then, and like in EO2 there's a benefit to helping it out now. After you free the butterfly from the web, it lazily flits around you. As you gaze rapturously at the butterfly's beautiful, iridescent wings, it eventually disappears into the trees. After you've seen it off, you notice an odd phenomenon... It feels as if a second wind is rising within you. The fatigue you had felt up to now has vanished!  You discuss it at length, but cannot come to a consensus as to what the butterfly was thinking. Still, the effects were undeniable, and you return to exploring with a lighter step.   Suddenly, an overpowering voice echoes from above!   After saying this, the winged one looks at you as if in judgement.  He's a parrot man, right? You try repeating the winged ones' words back to him. The winged one's voice is firm, and he remains resolute in barring you from passing here. Before Flavio can finish his protest, you pick up on an air of palpable menace in the room. As you are surrounded by hostile winged creatures, you recall something... They may relent if you speak the phrase you learned from the Duke's daughter.   When you repeat the words that the Duke's daughter taught to you, the winged one gazes at you in surprise. He then spreads the wings on his back and rises into the air, as if opening the way to you!  The question does not seem addressed to anyone, and the winged one disappears. You feel as if you are once again alone in the room...  You move to climb the stairs to the next floor with your guildmates. However, Chloe remains behind, wearing a disgruntled look on her face. Ignoring the black-robed girl's petulant protests, you proceed onward and upward. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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There's a Guild Name in there instead of a Guild Guild. I never heard almost all of the audio conversations. They're fun!
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Apparently this update contains all the Best Things, because drat if that rock event wasn't the most glorious one thus far. I appreciate that the events make it possible to characterize the Fafnir as an enormous dork. Do all the other options lead to failure states? (Also, because I live there, references to the distant land of Ontario always made me giggle. Although don't they know that most maple syrup comes from Quebec?)
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I hope you know that in a bar in High Lagaard Bellamy is crying on the inside because you didn't take him instead of Fedot. Caressing his chess piece.
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theshim posted:There's a Guild Name in there instead of a Guild Guild. Oops, fixed. It's actually supposed to be just Guild there. Though I do still giggle every time Guild Guild shows up. For anyone that has the game, you can listen to them in the Albums section under voice. They're all in the conversations section. The facilities even have audio only dialogue in Classic, though they're listed in the respective sections for those NPCs. vdate posted:Apparently this update contains all the Best Things, because drat if that rock event wasn't the most glorious one thus far. I appreciate that the events make it possible to characterize the Fafnir as an enormous dork. Do all the other options lead to failure states? (Also, because I live there, references to the distant land of Ontario always made me giggle. Although don't they know that most maple syrup comes from Quebec?) All of them work, but it's actually random if they succeed or not. Failure just has Knight lose some more HP. The rock event is still in Classic but nowhere near as glorious. alcharagia posted:I hope you know that in a bar in High Lagaard Bellamy is crying on the inside because you didn't take him instead of Fedot. Caressing his chess piece. There was no way he was being invited.
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Update 31: Waiter For a Day  A new floor, which means it's back to town.  Hmm. I'm not sure if the game was implying that multiple people were talking there or not. Anyways. here's the last audio only conversation for the bar.  Yeah that's pretty much all the new stuff the townspeople have to say in Story. Oh well, time to see another inn scene.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Time to meet up with Arianna.             And back into the Labyrinth we go.     Well before we do that, let's look around first.   You think that you could easily break off the branch if you reach out to it.  Let's break off a branch.   And another.  And another! As you break off a handful of the flowering branches, you hear the savage growl of beasts behind you! You turn to find a pack of beasts, enraged by the plundering of their territory! There is no escape in sight... Take your weapons in hand and face them!  Anyways, back to where we were before.   I should note that thanks to technological improvements, you're actually shown as being transported to the other side instead of a fade to black transition when you step on them. And yeah you actually have to step on them instead of merely interacting with them like in the original game. It seems these footholds take forward in the direction that you embark upon them. This may help you delve deeper... Ragnar Homsar already shows how to get through this floor in his Classic playthrough, and there's nothing left to show off in Story here. So I'll just put in the last audio only conversation for the 4th Stratum here.   And here's the end of this floor.   Not heading back to town just yet.    Descending from the sky is a winged one, but his bearing is quite different from the others that you have met. He is adorned with fine jewelry and shows a noble bearing as he quietly speaks.  Sadly, you cannot think of anything in your belongings that matches this description... With that, the man who seems to lead the winged ones falls silent, blocking your path forward. He seems to be serious in his stated intent to prevent you from passing, and is uninterested in further discussion. It seems you have no choice but to inquire after the Ancient Periapt at the Duke's Palace. Okay now we're heading back to town, as we can't progress in the Labyrinth without meeting that important Winged One. First up, I opted to rest.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Um, uhhh. People wanted to see more of Bertrand, right?      Before we talk with the people at the Grand Duchy, let's do some cooking. Sound of something falling and then a thud. If you didn't cook that dish, Bertrand actually says this line instead. If you didn't cook the Monster Fish Panino, she says this instead.  Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  Trash effect. I mean having an endure effect is nice, but only for the first 3 turns? If you're expecting to die within that period of time, there's either an alternative method to deal with that, or your party is really poorly thought out.    Dialogue merges here. If you've progressed Regina's subplot far enough, Bertrand says this instead.  If someone gets inflicted with an ailment or bind, they recover 5% of their max TP. And no, if someone gets inflicted with multiple disables, they don't recover any more than that. I see absolutely no use for this. Like TP starvation is a problem in this game, but ailments and binds are much worse problems to have.    Dialogue merges here.  This food increase your chance of escaping by 10%. If this game was EO4 or EOU, I would say it was worth taking since the escape rates in those games are abysmal. But in EO2U? Well the escape rates aren't as skewed in the player's favor like in EO3, but they're acceptable enough that this food is pretty much a waste. Anyway, once you cook enough food the next scene in Regina's subplot starts the next time you enter the restaurant.   Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here. Also, the sound of a door opening plays.   Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  Bizarrely enough, that last option is still there even if you haven't cooked, or even unlocked the Fried Whole Spider recipe. Anyway, I wonder what her father likes. Let's see what Regina thinks. Fried Whole Spider.   Instand. I see. Dialogue merges here. Fade to black and sounds of cooking.   Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here. Abigail leaves.   Both of these lead to Regina saying the same thing. Since a Classic mode party never does the whole food server for a day thing, the townsfolk actually have an entirely new set of Cafe dialogue for this. Oh and for the record, everyone's normal talk dialogue, aside from Abigail's and Dubois', are the same as in Classic.     And here's her normal conversation.  Oh and if you already fulfilled the requirements for the Academic obsessions quest... And then she goes into her normal quest dialogue at that point.       Alright, let's do this. The last mission in the game.     Let's see what Dubois has to say. Oh and for some reason, he has no dialogue for Cafe here.    
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That scene with Abigail's the best part of Story Mode, hands down  Especially with the Fried Whole Spider
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BlackPersona posted:That scene with Abigail's the best part of Story Mode, hands down Everyone's reaction to the Fried Whole Spider makes Story Mode 100% worth it. Dr. Fetus posted:This isn't true anymore. They changed Paralysis in EO2U to only disable evasion if the target can't act. Meaning that it's much worse than Blind now. At least there's that one food that makes enemies near-guaranteed to skip their turn when paralyzed. In that case, you can stop an opponent's actions completely while get the evasion disable, instead of dealing with enemies who use moves that don't care whether or not they can see (buffs and the like). Not that I can think of any particular moment where this really applies, just thinking out loud.
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Update 32: Lethal Cuisines  Dialogue merges here.  Oddly enough, that didn't cause the townsfolk to have new dialogue. But while we're here, why don't we get to some more cooking?     All paths converge here.  Increases the party's Panic resistance by 80%. This would probably be a good food effect if you didn't have to kill the strongest FOE in the Stratum to unlock this, as chances are the Great Moths are nothing at this point. And there's not much else in the game that can inflict Panic, so this food is really situational.    Dialogue merges here.  A 10 point increase to AGI does a lot of things for the party. Increases their action speed, accuracy, and evasion. Not only that, if you have a Survivalist or Gunner in the party, it's a pretty massive boost to their damage.     This food increases the item drop rate by 15%. It's not a bad effect, and can be handy if you're really hunting for a specific drop. But I don't find this food all that necessary since the drop rates in this game are pretty reasonable. Also if you have the DLC teas, this food is completely redundant.    Dialogue merges here.  YESSSS! I can feel the power flowing into me!  This food increases the chance of paralyzed enemies not acting from 50% to 99%! Effectively this takes enemies out of the fight completely. They won't be able to evade any attacks since the Paralysis will almost always kick in, and this prevents them from using non-damaging skills such as buffs and ailments as well, and shuts down skills that skip the game's accuracy checks. So this food makes Paralysis a much stronger ailment than Blind. The main downside to this food is that Paralysis is a much harder ailment to inflict than Blind in most cases. Still, expect to see this food in action very soon.    Dialogue merges here.  That description is a big fat lie. It doubles attack item damage, not triples it. This isn't the result of a mistranslation either, the game says the same thing about this food in the Japanese version, so I have no idea what's going on there. Anyway to elaborate on how much of an effect this has, the AOE Jars deals 220% TEC damage. The Alchemist's AOE formulas deal 320% TEC damage at level 20. Of course eating this food increases the AOE Jar damage to 440%, which actually makes them the strongest elemental attacks in the game. Even stronger than (postgame spoilers) the Dragon breaths! Which deal 380% damage at max level. Add in a level 20 Compression and you're looking at 880% TEC damage there. Which is pretty nuts and is a must have food if you're using a Compression Alchemist. Unfortunately since the Story party doesn't have an Alchemist, this food is useless to us.    Let's ask. Let's not. Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  Grimoire chances have a 40% chance of becoming a Passive Chance. Not all that great. But if you do have the DLC Grimoire Tea, you can't exactly control which passive you want to get, so I suppose it's a bit more situationally useful than the other Grimoire foods. That's all the food I can cook for now, as I'm only missing one more ingredient. So, let's go back into the Labyrinth.    In answer to the man's persistent request, you raise the pendant entrusted to you by Lady Gradriel. The winged one calls out excitedly before unabashedly staring at you with intense curiosity.  Your reluctance to state your name elicits a questioning look from the winged one. The winged one waits patiently for you to reveal your name.  Alright alright. After repeating your name a number of times, the winged one delivers an odd bow and resumes his speech.   Canaan points to the forest behind him, speaking slowly.  Canaan, having said what must be said, spreads his formidable black wings.  You are free to proceed on or head back to High Lagaard.   I should note that if you aren't going to kill these birds on the floor, then it's in your best interest to lure them to the other nest in the room. Eventually I head back to town to restock. Upon heading into Cafe again...   Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here. And this scene actually triggers new Cafe dialogue.           I also got my hands on the last ingredient for the Stratum, so I go ahead and cook the last of the 4th Stratum food.    Chloe.png. Again.   Not a bad food effect, but VIT is probably the least important stat to be concerned about giving a boost. It only decreases physical damage taken in most cases, but there are a few situations where 10 extra VIT can help.    Dialogue merges here.  Doubles the chance of getting added effects on your Grimoires. In all honesty, you don't really need them, the effects are pretty negligible. The important effects are obtained through an alternative method. And if you have the Original Sin DLC, this food effect is completely redundant.     Increases the party's Curse resistance by 80%. I suppose there are a few bosses this might be handy for. That was the last of the food we can cook in the 4th Stratum, so let's make our way to the floating castle.    It's at this moment that you realize how unusual your position is, and you all take deep breaths. Bertrand is right about the air seeming a bit thin, but it also feels pristine compared to the surface air... If you wish, you can rest from your long walk here and spend some time enjoying the breathtaking sight.  Let's rest.  Flavio's question causes you to look about for the girl... only to find her leaning over the edge, gazing below! All four of you quickly move to pull Chloe back to safety!  Idle chatter holds sway as you enjoy the cool breeze and the peaceful moment spent together. This does seem like the time to be on your way. As you stand back up, you feel refreshed from the leisurely rest.  All agree that it was a well-deserved break, but just as you prepare to resume your trek... Suddenly, you feel a piercing gaze directed toward you from the area's center!   A winged creature flies out and settles on the platform in the center of the floor. You look to see a monster with giant wings descending from the heavens! Though it is still far away, the sight of it chills you to your core!  You draw your weapon at once and stand ready for any attack it may unleash! But though the monster seems aware of your presence, it comes no closer. You must first find a way to reach the Queen of the Skies. Knowing this, you must brace yourselves and continue to proceed deeper into this floor.   You squint and can just make out a small animal. The animal shows no sign of fear in your presence. It chirps brightly and comes closer to nuzzle your feet. You may reach out to this suspiciously familiar animal, or ignore it and be on your way.  I'm sure that suspicious feeling is nothing. You kneel down and gently reach out a hand so as not to startle it. But at that moment...! With surprising agility, the small animal slips into your belongings and runs off with something in its mouth!  Of course. Arianna, who seemed eager to finally pet the adorable animal, slumps her shoulders.  You each harbor different emotions about the small animal that vanished into the trees as you resume exploring...
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Okay, so now that the Story party is going to be reaching the 5th Stratum pretty soon, I'll hold the last inn scene vote now. (The 6th Stratum does not have any inn scenes because... reasons.) So out of the Story party, who's your favorite?
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Dr. Fetus posted:There was no way he was being invited. I can't believe that those guys would snub their best friend Bellamy G. Bosconovich VII The Resplendent, the best hero of High Lagaard (Class: Alchemist) (Catchphrases: "BUT OF COURSE!" and "OH ALIARA PLEASE  ") (Noted skills: Art decor tips, defeating the Overlord in a man-to-man duel, chess appreciation) (Status: Single, but married to his craft) (Mood: Magnificent) (Listening to: Hall of the Mountain King)
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Oh, and it's Flavio.
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Aug 12, 2016 04:44
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This is loving art and it's going in the OP. Also Chloe.
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Aug 12, 2016 04:44
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I'll give my vote to Trand just so votes can keep all being different from each other and also because Trand is the best.
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Aug 12, 2016 05:03
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Flavio.
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Aug 12, 2016 06:17
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I'm always  about Trand myself.
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Aug 12, 2016 06:22
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Trand is the best Fafnir that isn't Ranger or Knight 
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Aug 12, 2016 07:43
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I'll throw in a vote for Chloe
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No more votes seem to be coming in so, voting is closed! Bertrand: 3 Flavio: 2 Chloe: 2 Arianna: 0 Since Chloe's vote came in later, hers will be the 3rd inn scene I'll show off.
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It's kind of weird how some dishes actually incorporate all of the ingredients and how some dishes are just "it's pasta, oh and there are scorpion pincers hangin' out too".
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Update 33: Harpuia  There's no way to reach Harpuia from here, so we have to go down to get back up.   There's an outer and an inner ring that we have to travel through. Not much happens in the inner ring, so I'll skip most of it aside from the events.   Your guild collectively rests their weary fate, enjoying the splendid view. As you do so, a thought comes to mind... It must feel very refreshing to let out a good, solid yell in such a place.  YELLO! You give into your rising impulse and shout at the top of your lungs! Your voice quakes the air as if it could reach far into the heavens... It then slowly melts away into the sky. After having to mind every breath while traveling the forest, it is quite liberating to yell in such a carefree manner.  You may try it once more if you wish, or go back to your investigation.  This is totally a good and safe idea. You look to each other to synchronize the cry, and all yell to the heavens on a count of three! You discover that yelling alongside your guildmates feels even more refreshing than when you did it alone...!  As you playfully banter with each other, you hear the echo of a loud roar... You hesitantly turn around, and are met with the glare of an enraged monster! Oops. You regret yelling carelessly not once, but twice. But it is too late for regrets...! The monster blocks your escape--you must face the furious beast as it charges for you!  Really? That's it?  I kill them easily.   You look up and indeed, it is Canaan, chief of the winged ones with whom you spoke earlier.  Canaan smiles in sincere respect for your victory over the Labyrinth's hardships. Canaan falls silent in anticipation of your first question. Upon consideration, you know surprisingly little of these winged ones. It may be best to ask some questions before venturing forth.  Canaan holds his head high as he speaks. You doubt you can learn anything concrete.  After every question, you'll have the option to ask more or just skip ahead. I'll ask every one.  Canaan looks up into the sky and composes his thoughts before responding quietly.  Canaan's voice is nonchalant as he continues his explanation. Canaan falls silent. He seems to truly have no interest in the subject. The way those taken there never returned leaves you with doubts, but Canaan offers no answers. Though you doubt he has any to give... There is unlikely to be any use in asking further on the matter.  Canaan nods with satisfaction before falling silent again, as if there is no need to say any more on the matter. He seems to have no particularly useful information for you...  Though Canaan speaks of the loss of his people's sacred ground, his expression in doing so is calm and unworried.  Canaan repeats your phrase with a quizzical expression. The chief of the winged ones says so with quiet indifference, though you detect a subtle menace to his words. They must believe in the day that will come, and are confident that they can slay the demon bird on that day.  Pictured: One of the few times in the entire series where the games warn you about an aspect of the boss you should prepare for. Fear protection is probably the most important thing to bring for the fight. After delivering this warning, Canaan blesses you and promises to pray for your safety.  We're done here. With no further questions to pose to Canaan, you thank him for the information. Canaan raises a hand in response to your thanks, and then points to the stairs behind him.   You are free to challenge the demon bird awaiting your arrival, or head back to High Lagaard first. I actually did not mean to go this way first. There was one more event I was looking to show off.   Both Bertrand and Arianna have a point. If you wish to confirm this unusual creature's existence, you might try casting a fishing line.  Let's take a better look first. Could a fish that swims the skies truly exist...? You take another look at the sky beneath your feet. The sky continues for miles, and the branches below you sway in the breeze that blows from time to time. If you trust Chloe's account, then you might try casting a line into the sky. Let's fish. You each cast a line into the sky that spreads beneath you. Indeed, it feels a bit awkward to cast a line straight into the sky... ...... As you wrestle with that uncomfortable feeling, to your surprise, you feel a powerful pull on your line! It seems a fish of the sky has taken your bait...! The pull is heavy, and the fishing line sways left and right… You patiently keep pace with the fish's movement until the line stops moving, and then quickly reel it in! But at that moment, you hear something snap, and the weight on the line mysteriously vanishes. Without the counterweight on the other end of the line, you stumble backwards!  As Chloe cocks her head in puzzlement and pulls up the line... you see a tree branch on its other end.  It seems that what you struggled against was a gigantic tree that would easily dwarf you on land! When seen in that light, the heavy pull is understandable. You ignore Bertrand's exasperated mutterings and check to see what it is you reeled in.  You carefully stow away the rare material before returning to your journey. Okay okay, now back to the Queen of the Skies deal.   You sense no palpable menace from the demon bird, but Arianna is correct in that there is an eerie tension in the air.  You tell your guildmates not to let the monster's unhurried attitude rattle them. You nod to each other, to shake off the fear constricting your movements. Now, prepare for battle! A powerful enemy stands before you to be defeated!                      Here's my setup. I was holding back on the game before, but now since things are going to be easier, I figured I would go all out on these fights. No mercy.  ENGAGING MURDER MODE!    Harpuia Level: 52 HP: 19660 STR: 45 TEC: 45 VIT: 41 AGI: 38 LUC: 45 Skills:
Disable resistances: In the original game, Harpuia was pretty much a complete joke, especially compared to the terror that was Scylla. Things... haven't changed much in the remake. Harpuia is pretty much a joke here too. She's pretty predictable and her moves are very easily countered. Her most threatening move is Shrill Cry, which is easily dealt with by wearing Scorpion Plumes. Also the game warns you about that ahead of time. Feast does get deadly if the fight lasts for too long, but you would have to take an incredibly long time for that to happen.    Harpuia will always cast Shrill Cry on the first turn, so I'll just have Bertrand smack her with his sword.  I don't see this fight lasting long, so I activate Flavio's Force Boost.  Unfortunately, Harpuia is immune to Blind, so I have to make do with Paralysis instead. Not counting the 9 LUC disadvantage Flavio has, he has less than a 27% chance of landing this, which isn't ideal but there's not much else he can do.   There's a couple of buffs that I really want to waste as little time as possible setting up.  Less than 27% wasn't that great anyway.    Since Shrill Cry is her main skill to worry about, since it has the highest infliction rate out of all the skills, and Fear really sucks to be hit by. Of course it's easily dealt with through Prevent Order, or Scorpion Plumes.    Man if that Paralysis landed, this would be doing so much damage right now.   Showtime.  The waves are Knight's best form of damage, but they are expensive at level 20. With Knight's TP pool being as small as it is, they'll run him dry after a few uses. This is why I had him the Force Energy passive. It restores quite a bit of his TP, 2% of his max TP from levels 1 through 19, 3% at 20, on top of a static amount. This is also why keeping him Transformed as much as possible is important, it'll reduce the amount of TP he spends, or just flat out restores some since it's possible for the TP restore to outpace the amount of TP Knight can spend.  And Bertrand's pretty much gonna Front Guard for the rest of the fight. Exciting.  I'm setting up an AOE Prevent Order to deal with something later.     That all you got?   And that's a 10th of Harpuia's HP gone.  Finishing up the combo with a Blade Recoil.  And she's already lost that much HP in 3 turns.   At this point, why not? Harpuia's not that much of a slog.    ...Pfft, really?     Once Harpuia's HP drops low enough, she'll use Chaos Scream at the end of the turn, which places a debuff that triples the chances of her ailments landing. But it has an additional effect. Remember those Luminous Birds on this floor? If you didn't kill them or lure them to the outer nests, they'll head straight for you once Harpuia uses Chaos Scream for the first time. You have 4 turns to finish the battle before the first bird joins in. Fortunately, I solved the floor puzzle, so I don't have to deal with that.  Also Prevent Order counts as a resistance buff, so it will block or dispel the effects of resistance debuffs.    Gonna prepare for a little something here.   Head binds lower the target's TEC stat, so they take more damage from TEC-based attacks. Unfortunately this doesn't affect Ailing Slash since it's calculated against the target's VIT.   Feast ended up not doing much, and Arianna just shrugged off the damage thanks to one of her Grimoire effects.   Now Arianna will join in on the fun.    That was over 3000 total damage. Offense isn't really a problem anymore for this team.  And here comes the assau-  Are you serious!? The head bind wore off that quickly!?  I'll just have to hope I can reapply it.  AHAHAHA! And now Harpuia can't do anything as long as she's Paralyzed. Bah, the head bind didn't land again.  So here's a little trick you can do with Accelerate. If you have Force Charge at a high enough level, you can cast it at the start of the turn to get an extra damage boost. It saves TP and increases your overall DPS more than just casting offensive skills 3 times. But if Force Charge's level is too low, you'll lose out on damage instead. The overall damage boost at each level would be as follows.
   Now that Harpuia is Paralyzed, I'll have Flavio spam Multi-shot instead. I would have loved to spam Hazy Arrow, but given that Harpuia is immune to Blind, that wasn't really a viable strategy there.      Those numbers would have been even bigger if that head bind stuck.    Oh and it turns out the reason the Paralysis food doesn't say always unable to act is because there are a few skills in the game that are scripted to go off even if they're Paralyzed. Even though they can be disabled through other means.  Now it's back to this again.  And I've got that conditional drop in the bag.  Poor Harpuia didn't do anything for the rest of the fight once she got Paralyzed.  Oh wow, talk about insult to injury. I got an extra copy of her normal drop thanks to a Grimoire effect. That only had a 6% chance of happening. So yeah, a pretty easy boss, even for Story.  You have defeated the dreadful tyrant reigning over this Stratum! Yeah. Sure was a tough fight.  As you shout for joy in celebration of your victory, a figure descends from above.  Canaan seems impressed with you, and gives a pleased smile. With that, Canaan spreads his wings and flies off into the sky.  Now that you've seen the chief of the winged ones off, you are free to proceed further in or return to town.   You pause before a pillar of light which rises into the sky. You look up, but the hazy air above blocks your view of the heavens.  As you exchange banter with each other, you look up once more at the path leading to the heavens.  Yet the Guild guild stands here now, with a full complement. Since you have foregone the long-lived ritual to seal the Calamity, you must forge onward to find a way of destroying it. You address your guildmates once more before proceeding with newfound resolve. You all nod to one another and take a step onto the path into the heavens. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Aug 13, 2016 |
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Update 34: The Floating Castle   After four Strata of vicious monsters and terrain to fight through, we've finally reached the Heavenly Keep... Even though that wasn't originally our goal in the first place. I do have to admit that I like this remix less than the original song, though it's not a bad song itself.        As you converse with your guildmates, a mysterious voice intrudes into your mind...  You consider how best to answer the question put to you by the mysterious voice calling itself an Overlord...  You speak of your duty as Fafnir, the breaking of the seal, and what led to your audience with the Ruler of Heaven. A heavy silence reigns for some time before the voice speaks again. The mysterious voice falls silent. The Overlord has challenged you to enter and prove your strength, but it may also be prudent to return to town first... Well, let's take a look at the inside of the Heavenly Keep.   Oh man, out of all the Strata that got a visual upgrade, Heavenly Keep probably got the biggest one in the transition from the DS to the 3DS. In the original game... Well, uh... Just take a look for yourself.  The place looked like a giant piss castle and was pretty eye-searing! I said EO2 had the best looking Strata in the series, but that did not apply to the original version of Heavenly Keep!  But now? Just look at the place. More visible stained glass windows and a much nicer color palette overall. I still consider Petal Bridge to be the better looking Stratum, but the new Heavenly Keep looks real snazzy. But enough admiring the view. A new floor means that we should head back to town and see what the people there have to say.  Let's see some more inn scenes.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Once again, Bertand's was the one people wanted to see the most.         Alone again in your room, you have only the silence for company. You consider what Bertrand said to you for a while, then decide to rest in preparation for tomorrow.  Cass has nothing new to say himself, and there's only one new bar patron in Story.    Back to the Labyrinth, then.  Oh, something I do want to highlight. Mandrakes in the original game were pretty badly designed enemies. They had a skill called Scream which had a 35% chance to instantly kill all your party members, which was boosted by their ridiculously high LUC. They had a 49% chance of using that skill if they weren't at full HP. Which isn't the actual problem with them. The actual problem is that they had a 25% chance of using the skill if they blindsided you, and could come in groups of 5. Even worse was that there were no real answers to dealing with that, Instant Death resistance accessories were only available in the post-game. Here they got reworked significantly. Their Last Cry skill has a 120% base chance of instantly killing everyone, and they can use it anytime. However, now they have to spend 1 turn charging up for it, and it can be interrupted with Blast Grenades. This basically means you have more ways to deal with them now. And if all else fails (Or you get blindsided by a rare breed Mandrake) you can just use a Return Flute for a guaranteed escape. Also as a kicker, they're no longer as ridiculously evasive and their LUC got toned down to more reasonable levels. Basically, one of the many ways the remake fixed the original game's problems.   You ignore Flavio's crabbing at Chloe and get a better look at the large box. The device displays three pictures. Under each of them is a glowing protrusion. If you are curious about these dishes, you may try pushing the protrusions.  Let's try the muddy miso soup. Pressing the protrusion elicits a light, chirping sound, followed by a deep growling noise! As you each nervously draw your weapons, the giant box continues to growl, and something emerges from it... But to your surprise, it's a delicious- looking soup, looking very unlike the images shown on the box! You look back at the box and see that she is right. The device now shows the name of an ingredient alongside an arrow. The soup you received had no ingredients in it. Perhaps this displayed component will be added to it...? The image shown on the device looks to be something like soft dirt... Unfortunately, you are carrying no such ingredient. Without ingredients, the soup is a tad simple, but you decide to enjoy the warm, aromatic soup nonetheless. The soup's odd aroma does bother you somewhat... but its taste still calms your mind.  As you cheerfully enjoy the soup together, you notice that the picture on the device has changed once again. Instead of displaying the images of food, it now shows the words, “That's all for today!” The woman bows deeply towards the box, but it offers no response. Though your doubts about it remain, you must admit that this soup will be useful in your travels. You think it might be a good idea to mark this place on your map as you return to exploring with a fuller stomach. In case you haven't figured it out, those are vending machines. There's a couple of these lying around throughout the Stratum, and they're pretty much the same event. You can pick a soup to heal up a bit, and if you have the right ingredient on you (You can't have dumped them at Regina's) their effects increase. This is what each of the soups do, along with their effects if you add the right ingredient:
  It seems to have been neglected for years, but it somehow manages to catch your interest. Though pressing it seems to accomplish nothing, before long a disembodied voice sounds. The garbled voice continues without answering your questions. The voice abruptly ends there and does not respond to any subsequent queries. You cock your heads, marveling at the strange phenomenon, before returning to your quest. In Classic mode, the identity of the voice was a bit more ambiguous, though you could probably piece the information together pretty quickly. In Story mode they outright spell out that it's the Overlord speaking.   And that's all for floor 21.    The Overlord seems greatly intrigued by your transformative abilities, and his voice sounds rather pleased with them.  With that, the voice speaks no more.  You resume your explorations in order to reach the Overlord where he waits for you. Interestingly enough, the Overlord does hint about the Lady in the original game, but only in 1 line. The person who directed EO2 still did the same for EO2U, so I wonder how long this was planned. Anyways, we got to a new floor, so it's back to town again.  And that's all the new town dialogue in Story. Time for the next inn scene.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Flavio's up next.        It is late, and you decide to rest in preparation for tomorrow... There were some more quests I completed. One was Healing innovations. If you already sold Abigail the materials for that quest, she has this to say: And then she goes back into her normal quest dialogue. I also happened to complete the Haute Cuisine quest, where you need to name 50,000+ en from an advertising plan. The Story mode party had this to say about it.   Speaking of cooking, let's get around to doing a bit of that.    Dialogue merges here.  People who get inflicted with ailments and binds restores 20 Force. However, the effect doesn't stack if it happens multiple times in a turn. Eat something else.    Dialogue merges here.  Increases the party's resistance to head binds by 80%. Handy. And back into the Labyrinth.   If it functions the same as before, then it will only summon a voice, and should be harmless to push. You press the button and the same voice rings out... The voice abruptly ends there and does not respond to any queries. You cock your heads in wonder at the mysterious phenomenon before returning to your exploration of the castle.   Chloe presumably means the mysterious box that displays the three images of food. You recall that pressing the protrusions beneath these pictures will cause it to dispense nutritious food... If you are hungry for soup, you may try pushing the protrusions again.  Let's try the Dark Chicken Soup this time. When you press the protrusion and the box makes its deep rumbling noise, a paper container of warm soup emerges. Just as before, the picture changes to display the name of an ingredient, and a slot to insert said ingredient opens up. The image shows a chunk of blackened breast meat, but unfortunately, you are carrying no such ingredient on you. Without ingredients, the soup is a tad simple, but you decide to enjoy the warm, aromatic soup nonetheless. Though the flavor was a bit bland and not entirely satisfying, the soup gently warms your bodies, taking away your fatigue!  You finish drinking the soup and return to exploring with lightened hearts. Hmm, but what if we had that ingredient? A chunk of blackened breast meat is shown here. Perhaps the Black Breast you carry is called for... If you wish, you may insert the Black Breast in the hole.  You produce the Black Breast and drop it into the hole in the box. The box begins its low growling noise, which it emitted before the soup came out from the slot... After a short wait, dice cubes of meat come out fully roasted and are dropped into the bowl of soup! The broth turns a deep black, just like the image that was once displayed! There is only one way to find out... You each take a sip of the soup! The sweetness of the vegetables that is only attained by stewing them... the juicy, savory taste of the gristle on the meat... What a full, rich flavor... The food you eat in town pales in comparison! As you gulp down the soup, you realize that it has warmed you from within, eliminating all trace of exhaustion!  Having enjoyed the delicious soup, you return to exploring with a fuller stomach. There's not much else on this floor, so here's an audio only conversation that plays during the 5th Stratum:   It is lying helplessly on the ground, squeaking weakly. If you wish, you can carefully lift the squirrel to see what's wrong with it.  Oh no, I'm not falling for this again! Feeble as it may be, it's unwise to let your guard down around any of this forest's denizens. You give one last glance to the weakly chirping animal before leaving this place. Uh wow, this event is pretty much inferior to Classic's version. Incidentally, the squirrel sticks around until you take a closer look at it.  So fine, Arianna. We'll have it your way. You slowly reach towards the feeble-seeming animal, careful not to alarm it. But at that moment...! Belying its feigned weakness, the squirrel quickly jumps to its feet and runs up your arm! It darts directly into your backpack and emerges with something in its mouth!  NEVER. TRUST. A. SQUIRREL.  The perplexed woman aside, it would be impossible to pursue the squirrel now. You decide to give up on the thread and return to exploring the deadly castle. That's the last time the squirrel shows up in the game. Unlike the original, it doesn't show up in the 6th Stratum. Mainly because there aren't any events at all in the 6th Stratum. 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Update 35: Juggernaut  And that's all for floor 22.    The question rings in your ears as if a corporeal presence had spoken it not two feet away.  The voice ends the moment it has finished making its demands of you.  Despite the woman's anxiety, you begin exploring the new floor of the castle to challenge this unknown adversary. Before we do that, let's go back to town to see what the townspeople have to say.  This one isn't exclusive to Story, Ragnar just missed this one in his playthrough.   There's a quest on that becomes available once you reach floor 23, A girl's best friend, that requires you to have a Beast in your party to complete. Unfortunately, the Story mode party does not have access to that class, and they can't even reclass into one. But there is an alternate solution you can take.   Sure. Oh boy. A fetch quest. Everybody loves those, right? A reminder that the drop rates for those items are pretty low. Plum Hides have a drop rate of 45%, and Blue Carapaces only have a drop rate of 35%. Thankfully the later EO games moved away from those (Except for EOU because most of the weaknesses of the original game had to be kept for some reason.) At least EO2U has a lot less than EOU's. Anyways, I managed to get those eventually.Fade to black.   Fade to black. The rewards are the same. It's just that one method to complete the quest is far less tedious.  And now, time for another inn scene.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Chloe is up next.    https://gfycat.com/FondUntimelyKawala.webm      That's not your bed.      Alone again in your room, you have only the silence for company. You decide to rest in preparation for tomorrow. Let's head back to the Labyrinth.   As you stand stymied by the door, the mysterious voice echoes in your mind... With that, the voice subsides again... Your only choice is to return the way you came and face the ordeal that the Overlord has lain upon you. There aren't any encounters in the central part of the floor, but there's a room with a lot of bombs in it.     You cannot help but flinch at its terrible visage, when a voice echoes in your mind... You pause, wondering if you are fully prepared to challenge the Juggernaut to combat. If you are, the time is now... Use all your strength and expertise to stand against it!   Hm. I wonder what happens if I send a bomb right into Juggernaut.   You decide to plan your next moves to cast more bombs at the Juggernaut.   Bomb number 2!  Uhhh... It seems greater consideration must be put into how the bombs strike the Juggernaut... Okay, so you want to send up to a maximum of 4 bombs into Juggernaut to lower his HP to far more reasonable levels. You probably don't need to do this if you're playing in Classic mode. If you're playing Story, you definitely want to completely solve this puzzle. I'll show you a foolproof way of sending 4 bombs into Juggernaut without taking any damage from them.   Starting from this point, follow these directions:
  The first bomb should have hit Juggernaut there, and you should be standing on the same tile I'm on. Now for the 2nd bomb:
  Bomb 2 should have hit its mark, and you should be on the tile I'm on. Here's the 3rd volley:
  And there's bomb 3. If you followed my directions exactly, the last bomb should be a piece of cake to send into him:
   Seeing this as your best opportunity, you take your weapon in hand. Your guildmates follow your lead and make ready to charge at the Juggernaut. The time has come to fall upon the weakened beast and claim your victory! Before I tackle him, let's check out something else on this floor.    You go along with Chloe's suggestion and reach out towards what looks oddly like a Geomagnetic Pole.  Now that you have divined the pillar of light's function, you return to the task at hand. Once per day, you can use this to fully heal your party. You can also save here, which is handy after solving that puzzle to even the odds against Juggernaut.                      Here's my party setup. I changed things around so Flavio's in the front row, mainly so he'll get targeted more often. Bertrand's fine in the back, Front Guard doesn't really care what row the user is in. Juggernaut mostly has Bash attacks, so I put Bash Talismans on everyone, which decreases the amount of damage they do by 30%, so it gives them a bit more survivability in case things go wrong.  Here we go!  Juggernaut Level: 58 HP: 72000 STR: 60 TEC: 45 VIT: 49 AGI: 28 LUC: 51 Skills:
Disable resistances: Juggernaut has a lot of HP, more than Classic Mode's final boss even! But don't be put off by that, it's actually a lot less than it seems. So I've been pretty much ragging on most of the boss fights in this game for just being badly designed, and not all that fun. Juggernaut isn't actually one of them. He's actually a really fun fight! (Once you know what to do anyway.) For one thing, he has no summons. It's just your party and him. The other aspect about him is that the fight revolves around a specific gimmick we'll be seeing shortly.  For once, I'm not opening up with Delayed Chase. I'm starting out with Mind Shut to deal with something later. Now I actually don't want it to head bind the thing. It happened one time and utterly derailed everything and forced me to reset.    Just gonna dish out as much damage as I can for now.  And set up an Attack Order with Arianna.    I suppose that's some respectable damage.  Now I'm setting up a Delayed Chase.  A big part of my strategy relies on Blinding Juggernaut. If I can't pull that off, I do have backup plans.  Ahahaha! That was absurdly lucky! Flavio had a 47% chance of pulling that off, but that would have been severely lowered by his 14 LUC disadvantage.  If you think this is good damage, just you wait.   This is the central gimmick to this fight. Berserk Cry doubles everyone's damage for the duration. Utilizing this buff properly is the key to whittling down Juggernaut's massive HP pool.  With Berserk Cry in effect, it's go time!    Time for pain!     That Blind food is seriously overpowered. The important thing to look at here is that Flavio dodged an attack.     Whoahoho, those are some big numbers!   And this is why I wanted the Mind Shut debuff on Juggernaut. Normally he'd raise his defenses by a ridiculous amount, but since there was a defensive debuff on him, all it ended up doing was nullifying the debuff. It's also why Flavio Blinding the thing on turn 2 was really lucky, I would have had to use Ad Nihilo to get rid of the Berserk Cry buff, which also would have gotten rid of the Mind Shut debuff. But since Juggernaut can't hit our party, there was no reason to do that.   The reason Flavio dodging an attack was so important was because it allows him to use Hazy Arrow, which is the strongest damage skill in the Survivalist's skillset.  Admittedly it's less damage than what Knight and Chloe can dish out, but if you're planning on taking the Story party into the post-game, you don't really have a choice there. Chloe's gonna be too busy operating as a support to even get many opportunities to use Ailing Slash, so Flavio is gonna have to take up the role of secondary damage dealer.  And Juggernaut missing again opens up another opportunity to use Hazy Arrow.     Counting Bertrand's Shield Smite (which didn't do much) that was a total of 9669 damage in one turn! If you lowered Juggernaut's HP all the way down to 43200, that's over 22% of his remaining HP!     Poor guy is just getting slaughtered.   Come to think of it, he hasn't even touched the party once! I almost feel sorry for him.   Unfortunately, the fun has to stop eventually. If your party has any buffs or debuffs on them 5 turns after Juggernaut uses Berserk Cry, he'll use Violent Cry, which dispels every single buff on the party. And then he'll follow up with King's Rush, which is pretty much a party wipe at this point. If you can avoid having Juggernaut trigger Violent Cry (disables don't count for that) he won't cast King's Rush. Use a Unihorn to dispel all your buffs and debuffs when you see the timer on Berserk Cry reach 2. That aspect of the fight really could have been communicated better. Fun fact, in the original game Colossus (Juggernaut's name in EO2 due to space constraints) got a little ticked off if your party had more than 4 buffs on them at any point, and used Mad Rush, which pretty much operated the same way as King's Rush. In that game it was just a screw you if you brought a Troubadour to the fight. But they reworked that screw you into a pretty enjoyable fight gimmick in the remake. Once you figure out what's going on, anyway.      Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.  Please do keep targeting Flavio. ...Never mind. He won't be able to do much next turn since Arianna can't outspeed him.   I decided to go for Juggernaut's conditional, purely for kicks. So I activated Chloe's Force Boost there.  There's not much of the fight left. In fact, I'm pretty confident I can take him out next turn.  But I have to get rid of that Reckless Barrier first. I forgot to do so in one attempt, which turned what was supposed to be a surefire victory into a party wipe.   Denied!   ...Okay, that was lucky. And unnecessary overkill.     I missed the timing on that screenshot, but I did manage to leg bind him through Legcut.    Time to end this.      So long, Jugg!  That was probably the smoothest Juggernaut fight I've had in Story mode. The party didn't even get touched once.  The Overlord's voice is excited and somewhat manic-sounding. With that, the voice fades... None of you got touched at all in that fight. Tempting as it is to press onward, the concerns of your guildmates do have some merit...   And we're done with the 23rd floor!   Normally I would say it's back to town, but there's no new town dialogue in Story mode that hasn't been seen in Classic mode. But there is an inn scene, so I'll show that off.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Arianna is the last one up.        By the way, I absolutely love that guild name you all voted for. https://gfycat.com/EagerUglyGoa.webm   
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Aug 15, 2016 10:19
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My last few runs, I didn't bother removing the buffs. I just leg bound Juggernaut a turn in advance.
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Aug 15, 2016 15:41
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God drat it all to hell. I didn't know you could send bombs into the thing's face. Not even remotely...I was on Normal in that fight, but still, I fought the thing at full health.
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Aug 15, 2016 16:06
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The Juggernaut in the original EO2 was probably my most memorable boss fight. It was down to a sliver of its health, but I was down to just my war magus with about 10 HP left. I managed to get off one of the old status effect cuts before it could finish me off and it was just enough to kill it. As a bonus, since the cuts were non-elemental I got the conditional drop and never had to fight it again.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:48
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https://gfycat.com/EagerUglyGoa.webm
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Aug 15, 2016 20:37
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbQ0_7dLj30
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Aug 15, 2016 20:56
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I'll admit, I broke out the item drop tea for any of the drop quests. Having 100% drop rates for all items made them a breeze.
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Aug 15, 2016 23:04
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Drop quests were miserable in EO5 until I installed the DLC that gives an accessory that is basically a permanent drop tea that also boosts the holder's LUC. It's kind of nice.
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Aug 15, 2016 23:08
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InwardChaos posted:I'll admit, I broke out the item drop tea for any of the drop quests. I have no shame in admitting that I abused the item duplication glitch for infinite Formaldehydes in EOU because of the sheer amount of drop quests in it. I'm really glad the later EO games moved away from those for the most part, and I'm really glad EO2U didn't repeat EOU's mistakes such as trying to keep most of the original game's weaknesses for no reason.
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Aug 15, 2016 23:33
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Drop quests were miserable in EO5 until I installed the DLC that gives an accessory that is basically a permanent drop tea that also boosts the holder's LUC. Really? I never really had any problems with them. The ones that want rare materials from mining/chopping annoy me more, although generally those have scaling rewards for not having the rare ones. I did have 3 people with the Anatomy skill though.
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Aug 16, 2016 00:33
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Clarste posted:Really? I never really had any problems with them. The ones that want rare materials from mining/chopping annoy me more, although generally those have scaling rewards for not having the rare ones. They're miserable because I can't easily remember what quest wants what. At least when it comes to quests that want monster drops I can put that accessory on and usually complete the quest by accident.
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You know, it would actually be kind of neat to get Hrothgar and Wulfgar to join your story party. Unlock a little class variety, at least.
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