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Alexander DeLarge posted:http://deliddedtech.com/2016/08/10/black-desert-publisher-threatens-credit-rating-of-players-that-chargeback/ Charge backs are a whiny baby move but loving el oh el way to go Daum at stomping your feet like a bigger whinier baby.
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Alexander DeLarge posted:http://deliddedtech.com/2016/08/10/black-desert-publisher-threatens-credit-rating-of-players-that-chargeback/ 
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Aug 11, 2016 08:27
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This just keeps getting better and better. 
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Aug 11, 2016 15:23
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I love how that reads like some poor mid level dude got told by his hardcore libertarian boss to threaten the plebs, but to do it diplomatically.
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Aug 11, 2016 16:19
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It sounds dumb but I also kind of don't blame them. I think charge-backing all of your purchases after having played for months (and presumably enjoying the game for that time period) is disingenuous. I spent a lot of money on the game and while I think Daum & PA are pretty terrible I'm not going to stomp my feet and demand my money back that I spent over a decent period of time. That said my precursory googling didn't really indicate that a failed/reversed chargeback has any impact on your credit rating unless you fail to pay back the money (at which point it does because it becomes a collections kind of thing). I would not be surprised if your bank would investigate more cautiously into future chargebacks if you're known for requesting too many though.
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Aug 11, 2016 16:41
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Yeah there's a decent message to send in there, but it doesn't come across right. It should have a more positive tone and a lot less "warnings"
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Aug 11, 2016 16:42
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J posted:Right now in valencia part 1 which is what we're on, it is pretty underwhelming. The grind spots don't give as much silver as pirates/sausans, but best in slot accessories do drop at some of them so you can play the lottery that way. The actual desert itself doesn't have any real points of interest aside from crescent shrine which is where the best ring drops. The main valencia story quest is alright but doesn't really take all that long, and gives you a free 7ap or 7dp ring at the end. We still don't have awakening weapons yet which I suspect some of these valencia enemies were designed around. The world boss (Nouver) that spawns in the desert that drops the best offhand weapons isn't in our version yet. drat so it really hasn't changed much since I quit back in April, this is relieving but also at the same time not, thanks for the write up.
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Aug 11, 2016 22:57
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This week I've been trying to complete all the knowledge categories that I was only missing one or two from. Went from 190 energy to 250 pretty quickly. But god drat some of those loving amity games are impossible and you just have to spam greet NPC a couple hundred times. So annoying!
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Aug 12, 2016 01:06
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I'd like to know what magical bank lets you do charge backs on poo poo you bought 6 months ago?! Wellsfargo would tell me to get bent after 90 days.
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Aug 12, 2016 15:00
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Clocks posted:It sounds dumb but I also kind of don't blame them. I think charge-backing all of your purchases after having played for months (and presumably enjoying the game for that time period) is disingenuous. I spent a lot of money on the game and while I think Daum & PA are pretty terrible I'm not going to stomp my feet and demand my money back that I spent over a decent period of time. So that is a no to the kik id?
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Aug 12, 2016 19:05
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Pro post/AV combo
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Aug 12, 2016 19:16
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Snatch Duster posted:So that is a no to the kik id? Depends, did you stop being a misogynistic douchebag? Judging by the avatar/text you picked up I'm guessing that's a no.
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Aug 12, 2016 22:56
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CHINAGAME.EXE
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Clocks posted:Depends, did you stop being a misogynistic douchebag? Judging by the avatar/text you picked up I'm guessing that's a no. Don't judge me bae. Only got this av because I was defending the noble women of cosplay against the creepy goon.
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Aug 14, 2016 21:28
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Which guilds are still active? I forgot all about this game.
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Aug 20, 2016 04:36
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Holyshoot posted:I'd like to know what magical bank lets you do charge backs on poo poo you bought 6 months ago?! Wellsfargo would tell me to get bent after 90 days. It depends on a lot of poo poo, like how in the SC thread people were getting chargebacks several months to even multiple years ago, but they had the standing of "this product I bought 2 years ago has never been delivered." That doesn't really exist here, though, so who knows. US law does tend to fall on the side of the consumer, but I don't think anyone is so pro consumer that "I ate this sandwich but it sucked, make them give me my money back" is gonna work.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:I don't think anyone is so pro consumer that "I ate this sandwich but it sucked, make them give me my money back" is gonna work. There is a legal precedence for eating a sandwich, getting food poisoning, and then getting a full refund. The food/service needs to be provided with "reasonable care and skill" - failing that, you have a case. At least that's what my 5 minutes of internet lawyering research tells me. 
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Aug 22, 2016 19:34
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LordAdakos posted:There is a legal precedence for eating a sandwich, getting food poisoning, and then getting a full refund. black desert online gave me poisoning 6 months after I bought it. I swear Mr. Wellsfargo.
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Aug 22, 2016 20:30
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Clocks posted:It sounds dumb but I also kind of don't blame them. I think charge-backing all of your purchases after having played for months (and presumably enjoying the game for that time period) is disingenuous. I spent a lot of money on the game and while I think Daum & PA are pretty terrible I'm not going to stomp my feet and demand my money back that I spent over a decent period of time. Some cards (I want to say discover specifically) have a "If you ask for it, we'll give it" chargeback policy. EDIT: in the grand scheme of things, they aren't going to really bother chasing the people that charged back 20 bucks or so. But that dude that spent $3000 in chinagame money? Rip his rear end.
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Aug 22, 2016 21:52
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Rhymenoserous posted:Some cards (I want to say discover specifically) have a "If you ask for it, we'll give it" chargeback policy. Must be why no one loving takes discover. Or used to not. I know if I was a business and a CC company had a policy like that I'd tell them to kick rocks and only accept the more sensible companies.
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Aug 22, 2016 22:31
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Is this game any better from open beta? I remember it was kinda neat then but it looked like it wasn't going to be that great at endgame at the time. Has that changed at all? Is this worth a relook at all?
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Aug 23, 2016 07:26
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Which server does everyone else play on?
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FunkyFlashman posted:Which server does everyone else play on? The one where you uninstall this game and play something else.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:10
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The bigger goon guilds were on Orwen, so most refugee goons are probably there.
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Holyshoot posted:Must be why no one loving takes discover. Or used to not. I know if I was a business and a CC company had a policy like that I'd tell them to kick rocks and only accept the more sensible companies. Pretty sure amex will do it too.
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CrusherEAGLE posted:Where the goons at these days? Probably went back to World of Warcraft because of this game's dev's being completely bonkers and having overwhelming contempt for their playerbase. And also the new WoW expansion came out.
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I'm still playing  Got my Grunil chest to DUO last night, Liverto to +13, and PRI for my Scarla. Blew up a bunch of Schultz belts trying to get PRI. Pretty much everything else is at PRI now (MoS & witch's). Main has 31 stacks and alt has 27 right now, so I'm ready to blow up more stuff soon. I still maintain that this game is fun if you only play like 20 min a day, plus an hour on a weekends for a scroll party. I've done like zero grinding since hitting 50 a few months ago. Finally did Helms, Manes, and Elric shrine with my grinding hour boost over the weekend and hit level 54 in no time.
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this troper posted:Probably went back to World of Warcraft because of this game's dev's being completely bonkers and having overwhelming contempt for their playerbase. And also the new WoW expansion came out. I literally did go to play WoW and oh boy am I glad I'm not playing BDO anymore. No more having to fail enhancements and grind all the time. As a bonus, it's hilarious how Daum just goes back on everything they say.
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fudging around in gw2 before classes start. can't really justify a reason to head back to bdo
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I might've hit my wall. I've tried to go to DUO with my zarka shortsword 15-20 times, all failing. I've got nothing but stacks. I bought a zarka staff to play with the wizard some. It's +14, and I've had trouble hitting 15. Last night, I paid my 20mil for relics, spent an hour on a 5x group, got some 33 shards, and failed 6 times to upgrade the staff to 15 again. Threw in a 7th just to be sure. Between that staff, the other sword, the +13 bhegs gloves.. I would basically need to do these absurdly slow and stupid relic scrolls all day, or grind money to continue doing them, just to upgrade this equipment, with the hopes that I get 3 more pieces of armor that will require the same garbage. It's a good game, but while they made the grind for xp much easier, and continue to do so with every patch, the gear grind is painful and I can't see myself enjoying grinding for memory fragments to repair my poo poo. Ugh. But the monopoly game is addictive.
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The way the enhancement system works is frustrating as hell. I can't possibly recommend highly enough to focus on getting more contribution points and workers and getting them to gather poo poo for you, and just sell the poo poo that they gather. I'm up to 290 contribution points and most of my workers are professional and artisan at this point and the income is starting to become quite noticeable, despite being almost entirely afk. Make and feed the workers beer, and post the poo poo they gather on the marketplace. Done. The patch recently that made cooking energy-free is great for this, since making beer generates contribution hand ins as well. Grab every single grain node you can just to get more contribution. I process timber for crates too, which is a little more effort but not much. Doing this I feel like I'm able to keep my gear up surprisingly decently despite not actually playing all that much. I'm also just biding my time and buying certain items outright instead of trying to enhance it myself. Even when I do enhance stuff I only attempt it maybe once a week or once every 2 weeks, funded by mostly AFK income so it doesn't sting as bad when it doesn't work out. Still really enjoying the game because of playing it at this pace instead of grinding into burnout like I've seen happen to so many other players.
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Trade, crafting, and pretty much all the advertised systems were incredibly misrepresented. Still, I got my money worth.
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Apparently the game is on sale for  for the next week or so or something. If anyone is actually interested.
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I have gathered that the game has become more P2W over time. If all goes (not so) well with this promotion, perhaps the NA version of this game will also go F2P 
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Septimus posted:I have gathered that the game has become more P2W over time. If all goes (not so) well with this promotion, perhaps the NA version of this game will also go F2P Legit, most of the P2W things are also accessible through just playing every single day and collecting loyalties. It takes a loooooong time however, but it is possible. The thing that just gets to me about this game is, unless you do some kind of roleplay or whatever, what is the real purpose of this game? There is no competitive pvp, no PvE except for mindlessly grinding to become stronger and even then there's no cap on how strong you can be. You can't murder people for fun because it gives you nothing but penalties and guilds mostly refrain from doing guild wars because it'll ruin their grinding. Not even playing for pretty-princess dress up is a thing as the outfit selection is fairly limited and not very interesting either. So yeah, there's better games out there for you unless you're a roleplayer and want to write stuff.
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lewtt posted:fudging around in gw2 before classes start. can't really justify a reason to head back to bdo Same, except no gw2. I was looking at coming back after all these months and saw all the lovely changes. I miss my botes. 
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