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Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Smythe posted:

H.H. and I have spoken and are on good terms. The thread is proceeding just fine through another mouthpiece. Posting that suicide advocacy confession was extremely poor judgement and I had to send a strong message about that.

I enjoy this thread as much as the next guy, but it's a bit treacherous and needs to be handled with care.

What the hell is this? A mod that explains his decisions and makes his intentions known to the community?

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crackton
May 9, 2009

Murphy Brownback posted:

That's what I was saying - if you don't think you can provide a good one, just say so. If he's clean now surely he'd understand that he hosed a lot of friends over as a result of his problem.

References lose their meaning if you're supposed to say "yeah sure hire that guy" no matter what because of some ~friend code~ or something. You should only be asking people for references that you know have a positive view of your skills and personality, not some random friends. That'd be OK when you're looking for a publix bagger job at 16 because you won't have anybody else, but as an adult you should know you can't count on a 100% positive review based just on your friendship. One of my closer friends applied for a job with the DOD and I got interviewed and I told them the truth, including the unsavory bits of them seeming to have a drinking problem etc (and I mentioned if they asked about it I'd have to disclose it and they were ok with it). They still got the job.

I'd even argue lying for your friends on references is just setting them up for failure. Tell the truth or don't agree to be a reference.

I mostly have to disagree with you on this, not just in the confessors scenario, which is a completely hosed up thing to do for a friend. If a friend asks me for a reference, unless it's at or directly associated to the job I'm currently at, I will give them the best reference I can possibly give them. Talk up as many positive things about them as I can, even if it's not 100% true, and by no means would I ever go into their personal lives in a way that reflects negatively on them.

People just need a leg up in life sometimes, and if they are a phony or a poor worker, that will be found out later anyways, in the meantime you're helping a possibly unemployed desperate individual put food on the table.

And the reason I don't give references or recommendations for positions I'm currently employed at, is obviously that their performance will have a direct impact on me. Even if they're fully qualified and I tell the honest truth about them, should they not vibe with other management, don't meet performance expectations, or perhaps just find something better and move on, all of that will directly reflect on me at my current job, and possibly my friendship with the person.

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS

Business Gorillas posted:

What the hell is this? A mod that explains his decisions and makes his intentions known to the community?

why wasn't it ano nymous?>>

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
DoD jobs like that actually want and expect the whole truth, plus you warned your buddy.

This is a guy loving up the friend on purpose for no reason. To give a good reference, he wouldn't even have to lie to the companies, he would just have to not deliberately sabotage the friend.

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Feb 11, 2007

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Murphy Brownback posted:

References lose their meaning if you're supposed to say "yeah sure hire that guy" no matter what because of some ~friend code~ or something.

thanks for defending the Universal Integrity of the Reference System. Your service will be rewarded in another life. In this one, however, the usual custom is not to poo poo on someone if you've willingly agreed to be a reference.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

Zorodius posted:

thanks for defending the Universal Integrity of the Reference System. Your service will be rewarded in another life. In this one, however, the usual custom is not to poo poo on someone if you've willingly agreed to be a reference.

It's like you people are intentionally ignoring the part where I repeatedly say you should warn them if you don't think you can give a 100% good reference.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Job reference goon is doing the lord's work. Once a druggy always a druggy. That'll teach his friend to put in a ton of mental and physical effort into overcoming an addiction and try to turn his life around. gently caress that guy. gently caress him right in his nonaddicted-wanting-to-contribute-to-society rear end.

FisheyStix
Jul 2, 2008

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.
Wow, out of all the psychopath confessions, that job reference one is the only thing that rings vaguely true and is by far the most sickening. Can't you just torture animals you sick gently caress?

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

quote:

Sex party lady here. Someone asked why I didn't tell better stories, idk it seems pointless to write "I had good sex" confessions. And I don't feel guilty about that at all! I wrote about that one (the guy who masturbated that I didn't touch) because it's weird emotionally...he told me it was one of the best things in his life and it was just a little fun for me. That feeling is the confession part, I can't tell him or anybody. It makes me feel bad, kind of guilty. Is this a conscience? lol

I can answer sex party questions if anyone cares. I mostly go to private parties so people aren't creepy, ugly or old if that's what you're thinking. This one was public though

quote:

I'm something of a hobbyist. My hobby is escorts. I've been serviced by escorts for the better part of ten years. It first started out of sheer curiosity, then I developed a job and lifestyle that allowed me to continue it for some time. Now, there are a lot of stereotypes across the board, against both hobbyists and providers alike. To me, sex work is a service, just like any other service. You go and get a massage, get your oil changed, your teeth cleaned, or your shirts pressed and in every case you are exchanging money for labor. I see sex being no different. For me, paying for intimacy is a very straightforward approach; you can get exactly what you want, with exactly the person you want, and all the terms are agreed upon. Willing partners exist in theory, of course, but the terms of the agreement tend to be a lot more abstract and there is much greater inconsistency in product.

Unfortunately, not everybody sees it this way. When I was younger, I started dating a very strong feminist woman. She was all about sex positivity, how sex workers were human beings too, how all these taboos and stuff just made things much more dangerous for women. I agreed. Early in the relationship, she was very upfront that she wanted to know how many partners I had, and the circumstances. She was very forward about her partners; the hookups, the relationships, and unpleasant traumatic moments. I felt, at the time, it was safe to be honest about my past. After all, honesty is the best policy right?

Apparently not. When I told her that I was a hobbyist and had previously seen providers, she was horrified. She screamed that I objectified women, that I was a rapist and all sorts of horrible things. I tried to point out that she was all about being sex positive; I didn't hold these women's jobs against them any more than I hold the guy who delivers my mail or takes out my trash against them. She insisted it was different, that these women were vulnerable and that I was perpetuating the problem. When I pressed her for clarification and details she just shut me down.

It convinced me that even the most sex-positive feminist will not accept the life of a hobbyist. This is unfortunate for two reasons; one it dooms the hobbyist to continue seeing providers since a woman will obviously not accept the hobbyist's past and two, it gives a former hobbyist a large incentive to keep his past a secret. Much like my feminist ex I don't think there is any shame in what these women did, and therefore it shouldn't be shameful that I used their services. But now I am getting older, and missing being in an actual relationship. However, I feel like I can't find someone that is going to accept me for who I was. Perhaps if the sex industry wasn't so taboo this wouldn't be an issue.

china bot
Sep 7, 2014

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anonymous confession: i had sex

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

china bot posted:

anonymous confession: i had sex

What kind of sick gently caress sent you this?

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Ugh, I'm losing total interest in this thread. Can't we get some damned fun confessions? Someone pick up the reins and pretend to be Kane again.

Space Camp fuckup
Aug 2, 2003

perhaps don't tell your next partner that you spent the past decade loving hookers

or if you must, don't refer to yourself as a "hobbyist"

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



china bot posted:

anonymous confession: i had sex

Also, feminists :argh:

Shuffleboard Shootout
Dec 26, 2006

Tsoukawhat?
I gently caress my hand constantly but I don't consider myself a "hobbyist"

M'hand

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS

Solice Kirsk posted:

Ugh, I'm losing total interest in this thread. Can't we get some damned fun confessions? Someone pick up the reins and pretend to be Kane again.

*rips off mask* hey guys it's me Kane

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Business Gorillas posted:

Also, feminists :argh:

Tbf, I could absolutely believe that one of those people who keeps talking about the rights of sex workers as an abstract concept but has never met one in real life would still flip out upon hearing that their significant other had been seeing hookers regularly for a decade, just as a natural human reaction, and then fail to justify that reaction in political terms.

If he used the terminology he used in the post she'd be super justified in it too

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

loquacius posted:


If he used the terminology he used in the post she'd be super justified in it too

Even Jon Pop comes right out and calls himself a monger.

Audax
Dec 1, 2005
"LOL U GOT OWNED"
Someone who plays with a yo-yo every now and then is a hobbyist. I don't know what that was.

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
hooker guy, the reason your ex was mad at you is because the vast majority of women in sex work ARE either victims of sex trafficking or coerced/groomed into the position. by making use of sex workers, you are directly contributing to human trafficking and abuse. I'm a huge prick

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

Sir_Charles posted:

or if you must, don't refer to yourself as a "hobbyist"
Seriously. Putting ships in a bottle: hobby. Putting your dick in a bottle: not a hobby.

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John Big Booty posted:

Seriously. Putting ships in a bottle: hobby. Putting your dick in a bottle: not a hobby.

its a ~lifestyle choice~

wyntyr
Mar 27, 2006
Hookerfucker didn't come up with that term, FYI. On websites where hookerfuckers share details of what things particular women do and don't do, what rates they charge, etc, they refer to their behavior as "the hobby" and call themselves hobbyists.

I live in an area with an enormous human trafficking problem, both for sex work and regular old slave labor, and it's terrifying and depressing to confront. Much like hookerfucker's girlfriend, I'm all about sex positivity, but knowing what I know of human trafficking, I couldn't morally support someone loving a random prostitute. While it's certainly not everyone, the odds are pretty good that she's been coerced, kidnapped, etc.

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

confession: Kane is actually literally the biblical Cain who killed his brother and was cursed by God to roam the Earth in unending solitude. turns out God fell asleep at the wheel around a thousand years ago so Kane just kind of does what he wants now and doesn't give a gently caress.

Zorodius
Feb 11, 2007

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Stuntman posted:

hooker guy, the reason your ex was mad at you is because the vast majority of women in sex work ARE either victims of sex trafficking or coerced/groomed into the position. by making use of sex workers, you are directly contributing to human trafficking and abuse. I'm a huge prick

eh, I don't seriously believe the ex would've been cool with it even if they'd been 100% certified non-GMO Cage-Free farm-to-table hookers.

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Zorodius posted:

eh, I don't seriously believe the ex would've been cool with it even if they'd been 100% certified non-GMO Cage-Free farm-to-table hookers.
yr probably right, but that dude is a scumbag piece of poo poo regardless

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Stuntman posted:

hooker guy, the reason your ex was mad at you is because the vast majority of women in sex work ARE either victims of sex trafficking or coerced/groomed into the position. by making use of sex workers, you are directly contributing to human trafficking and abuse. I'm a huge prick

Well, majority in illegal prostitution. Sex work also encompasses stuff like cam shows, phone sex, and selling videos and photos online. I believe the majority of those are willing participants.

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


i consider spidergoon the baseline level of insanity sex confessions have to contain to be entertaining. if you have sex for money or with lots of people, whatever, go you. if you need to dress in rubberized latex and pretend to be a crash test dummy, let's hear about it.

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Calling it a hobby is super gross.

The fact that you have to create a minimizing whitewash word for your actions says a lot.

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

i consider spidergoon the baseline level of insanity sex confessions have to contain to be entertaining. if you have sex for money or with lots of people, whatever, go you. if you need to dress in rubberized latex and pretend to be a crash test dummy, let's hear about it.

it's almost as if people are mostly boring and have no exciting distinguishing characteristics whatsoever like in every indie movie ever

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014

Does the "hobbyist" not get that you can judge the "hobbyist" while not judging the sex workers? Like...what the gently caress. Hobbyist is a gross term for it.

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
wow, lotta goons morally outraged by guy who has had sex before lol

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Stuntman posted:

hooker guy, the reason your ex was mad at you is because the vast majority of women in sex work ARE either victims of sex trafficking or coerced/groomed into the position. by making use of sex workers, you are directly contributing to human trafficking and abuse. I'm a huge prick

Woah dude did you find out about the huge prick part during your thorough investigation of sex work??

Just kidding slavery is ultra terrible and ultra real and I hope all slaves including the sex kind are able to make it to the underground railroad

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
We really need to modernize this kind of thing and build some form of underground bullet train. Would the japs be willing to give their technical secrets for humanitarian causes?

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Now that slavery is illegal and itself under ground, should the train be underground as well or would an above ground one be more effective. I'm thinking above would save a lot and people seeing it would be good pr

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


Stuntman posted:

the vast majority of women in sex work ARE either victims of sex trafficking or coerced/groomed into the position.

citation needed

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

Profondo Rosso posted:

citation needed

you've seen Taken, right???

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:

SniperWoreConverse posted:

We really need to modernize this kind of thing and build some form of underground bullet train. Would the *CENSORED* be willing to give their technical secrets for humanitarian causes?
***TRIGGER WARNING OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE/HATE SPEECH BEHIND THE SPOILERS***

how come sniperworseconverse gets to say japs but social vegan gets banned for saying wop? :confused:

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

quote:

I recently lost both my feet at age 30 thanks to almost a decade of heavy alcohol abuse that caused me to get a bad case of the beetus. There's not much time to go to the doctor when you're drinking all day, so this went untreated and caused a lot of nerve damage and both feet got sores that wouldn't heal, so I finally went to the doctor.

Anyway, this sounds depressing and it was for a while, but that's not a confession. I've since decided to roll with it and make the best out of a lovely situation. My confession is I've started actively courting amputee fetishists. Most of these people are real hosed up and ugly, but I've been talking to one woman I'm thinking of meeting. She's about 40 but still pretty hot and really gets into the dirty talk w.r.t my stumps. The problem is she is married with 2 daughters to a very normal looking attractive guy, so what she wants with a fat (although this problem is slowly going away thanks to the no more drinking part) bald amputee I don't know but I don't really care, I'll take what I can get. They live in a trailer park in a rural part of Kentucky and she wants me to buy a trailer next to theirs that just went up for sale. I'd be moving from and selling my nice house I inherited in Florida to do this but whatever, I'm going for it.

Another part of my confession that's related is I have never been on a date or been in a relationship in my life and have only hosed prostitutes (no, I'm not jon pop). I'm hoping to just skip all that and marry this lady and live happily ever after.

and finally, a mystery

quote:

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Please find yourself another girlfriend. Or at least, let me go.

Perhaps you would prefer a boyfriend from the Games forum... ?

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Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Nooner posted:

wow, lotta goons morally outraged by guy who has had sex before lol

HI hobbyist.

Thinks is gross totally = outrage.

*I am calm and reasonable comic

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