Gammatron 64 posted:

It's funny you mention that though, because people in here keep talking about designs they find ugly. If you really want some ugly designs that make no sense, look no further than STO. I mean, just look at these monstrosities:







People who poo poo on the Excelsior \ Sovereign \ Galaxy \ NX-Refit \ whatever should just think of the horrible turds that cryptic designs and that should give them a little perspective.

Evek posted:

There's a non-canon Horta crewed one. Its just full of artificial rock for them to reshape as needed.

Mortanis posted:

Yeah, as someone that plays STO, I can't think of a non show/movie ship they've created that I don't immediately hate. There's a few that elicit an apathetic "meh" at best.

Tunicate posted:

The risian luxury cruiser is pretty great


The top half is glass, with has a little beach with a desert island and a sailboat inside.

Cojawfee posted:

How do you build a ship for the Horta that prevents them from burrowing straight out into space?

Zurui posted:

Gammatron 64 posted:

It's funny you mention that though, because people in here keep talking about designs they find ugly. If you really want some ugly designs that make no sense, look no further than STO. I mean, just look at these monstrosities:







People who poo poo on the Excelsior \ Sovereign \ Galaxy \ NX-Refit \ whatever should just think of the horrible turds that cryptic designs and that should give them a little perspective.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Speaking of modular ship designs, does anyone remember a game from (I wanna say) 98-2004 that let you mix and match parts and crews to make your own ships? I think it was technically an add-on for some other game.

ed: Found it, it was literally just "Starship Creator"

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

it was pretty disappointing.

Gammatron 64 posted:

It's funny you mention that though, because people in here keep talking about designs they find ugly. If you really want some ugly designs that make no sense, look no further than STO. I mean, just look at these monstrosities:







People who poo poo on the Excelsior \ Sovereign \ Galaxy \ NX-Refit \ whatever should just think of the horrible turds that cryptic designs and that should give them a little perspective.

Veotax posted:

Worth noting that most of these are from launch, the game was rushed out the door in about a year and a half (which is loving insane for an MMO) for contractual reasons.

Timby posted:

Didn't Cryptic have to rush it because the original developer (which had a much more impressive design for the game, as I recall) went broke and had to surrender the license?

Timby posted:

This can be said of, like, every Star Trek game except 25th Anniversary, Judgment Rites, A Final Unity (although gently caress some of the puzzles in that), Elite Force, Armada and Bridge Commander.

Zurui posted:

Star Trek Academy was pretty awesome. (Or at least I thought it was when I was a little lass.)

Knormal posted:

Ten years before TOS means there's basically no way they can do sets that don't either look completely dated or invalidate TOS. And that glowing blue deflector dish is completely anachronistic. But oh well, I'll take some new Trek however I can get it. I'd also much rather see something post-DS9/VOY or movie-era/pre-TNG, but not enough to not watch the new show.

Mortanis posted:

Yeah, as someone that plays STO, I can't think of a non show/movie ship they've created that I don't immediately hate. There's a few that elicit an apathetic "meh" at best.

Veotax posted:

Worth noting that most of these are from launch, the game was rushed out the door in about a year and a half (which is loving insane for an MMO) for contractual reasons.

They've come up with a much better and more consistent theme for their new ship designs.

Excelsior refit:


Constitution refit v2:


Akira refit:


Galaxy refit:


Defiant refit:


Nothing amazing, but much better than what they did at launch.

Marshal Radisic posted:

Oh yeah, on the subject of Trek games...I weakened and reinstalled STO recently, and I had a spin with the new "Temporal Agent" character type. You get to play as a 23rd century Starfleet captain and play around in that time period for your first few levels before you're dumped into the main Federation campaign. It's cute seeing everything done in the TOS style, but for me the best part was that Daniels from Enterprise shows up, and the game's storyline makes him a complete piece of poo poo.

I'm serious. You start off in your little putt-putt ship, fistfighting guys in rubber costumes at the Vasquez Rocks, then one of your security guys introduces himself as Daniels and lays this whole "temporal cold war" thing on you. At first it's all fun and games; you get to run around in the background of "Journey to Babel," keeping the Time Nosferatus from whacking Kirk. Then you pop back in time to just before "The Tholian Web" to watch the 400 men and women of the USS Defiant die horrible deaths, only to be told you can't do anything because timeline. Finally, you end up in a big battle with the Klingons and are completely outmatched, resulting in the loss of your ship. Quick as a flash, Daniels pops you into the tardis, tells you that history says you died at that battle, but because you're such a valuable asset, he's gonna download a bunch of information into your brain and dump you in the early 25th century where you'll do some work for him on the side.

So, just imagine the scene: this Andorian lady in the TOS onepiece comes stumbling out of a broom closet, blearily glaring at the lights and displays of Earth Spacedock, while all around her people are saying "gnarly costume, bra." All the while she's thinking My family is dead. All my friends are dead. Everything I knew and loved about the world is gone. I have a migraine and my eyes aren't focusing right. I am now time bitch for Sheldon from "The Big Bang Theory" for the rest of my life, which, considering he is a time lord, will probably last until sometime after the Sun has shriveled into a black husk. And there is no one in the universe that I can talk to about this. In other words, Crewman Daniels is the reason I cut.

Mind you, it's not all bad. The only free TOS ship you get is the Pioneer class, which pretty much the hull profile for the patrol escort (engineer-heavy tac ship) with TOS parts. Nice design for a little putt-putt ship.