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heeheex2 posted:If we're going with poll numbers, some of the other states are even worse right? Way worse. Maine hasn't gone red since 1988. If Trump is doing well enough that he wins in Maine, he wins a lot of other swing states long before that. He has no path to victory and no path to 269-269.
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cheerfullydrab posted:This is the scenario I was just looking at. You've never been to Maine, have you? Ayup, thought not.
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Aug 13, 2016 03:19
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In my darkest dreams of maximum chaos I dream that it's 269-269, goes to Ryan's house, and they choose Clinton.
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Aug 13, 2016 03:26
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VanSandman posted:In my darkest dreams of maximum chaos I dream that it's 269-269, goes to Ryan's house, and they choose Clinton. Alternate fun scenario: 269-269 tie but a faithless elector breaks with Trump and gives their EC vote to Clinton instead. Cue Civil War 2.0: Trumpster Fire
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VanSandman posted:In my darkest dreams of maximum chaos I dream that it's 269-269, goes to Ryan's house, and they choose Clinton. They and the senate stonewall and avoid voting, making Paul Ryan president on inauguration day.
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Aug 13, 2016 03:29
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DrNutt posted:It is okay, however, to tell impoverished white people how stupid they are for voting against their own self interests. I'm this demographic - gently caress Trump. gently caress Trump now and forever and gently caress (some) of my homies for even thinking this guy had something to say before unlodging their heads from their asses. I remember 30 years of Trump being talked, celebrated, and skewed in righteous parody. if you can claim the same and still want the motherfucker? That is on you and you don't speak for poo poo or for me - signed, a tired poor person
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Aug 13, 2016 03:32
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vyelkin posted:Alternate fun scenario: 269-269 tie but a faithless elector breaks with Trump and gives their EC vote to Clinton instead. Cue Civil War 2.0: Trumpster Fire There has to be a constitutional way out of this accident, some sort of redo.
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VanSandman posted:In my darkest dreams of maximum chaos I dream that it's 269-269, goes to Ryan's house, and they choose Clinton. Trump is already priming people for violence with the "rigged election" and "second amendment folks" stuff. This would cause a full blown revolt. Luckily most of his supporters arent smart enough to mount an organized revolt and/or are confined to their houses. So, I guess, emphasis on "blown."
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Aug 13, 2016 03:37
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vyelkin posted:Seriously. Anybody who feels like Arzying at any point just look at this map: Yep, even if you only grant Clinton the states where she's currently polling >10% above trump she still has enough to win. He doesn't even have a theoretical path to victory at this point.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:But boy howdy will they be tweeting and Facebooking up a storm! And voting in the 2018 primaries. 
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/12/politics/donald-trump-pennsylvania-cheating/index.html Donald Trump declared Friday that there's only one way he could lose the state of Pennsylvania: if he's cheated out of it. "We're going to watch Pennsylvania. Go down to certain areas and watch and study and make sure other people don't come in and vote five times," he said at a rally in Altoona, Pennsylvania. "If you do that, we're not going to lose. The only way we can lose, in my opinion -- I really mean this, Pennsylvania -- is if cheating goes on."  edit: i'd wear the poo poo out of a t-shirt that says "i'm from CERTAIN AREAS".
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Subvisual Haze posted:Yep, even if you only grant Clinton the states where she's currently polling >10% above trump she still has enough to win. He doesn't even have a theoretical path to victory at this point. I've been reading articles about Virginia's voting patterns for four presidential elections and it's crazy just how important it has become and what a symbol it is of larger trends. This is a recent development.
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Apparently Trump is finally starting to organize offices and stuff. Isn't it a little late to actually get the running and build a ground game? Like, as in, he probably won't be able to get one up in time?
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Augus posted:Doesn't Trump think that California and New York are also "the kind of state he could steal from the Dems"? Trump is going for the old 11-State strategy 
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Night10194 posted:Apparently Trump is finally starting to organize offices and stuff. Isn't it a little late to actually get the running and build a ground game? Like, as in, he probably won't be able to get one up in time? Clinton probably used her unlimited warchest to hire all the good state campaign managers already, so they'll be run by Lewandowski-calibre bumbling idiots and will fail miserably.
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:Trump is going for the old 11-State strategy It's... beautiful.
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vyelkin posted:Clinton probably used her unlimited warchest to hire all the good state campaign managers already, so they'll be run by Lewandowski-calibre bumbling idiots and will fail miserably. Does this mean we get to hear about how more of his campaign and state managers CC horse porn to people for the next 3 months, then?
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Night10194 posted:Does this mean we get to hear about how more of his campaign and state managers CC horse porn to people for the next 3 months, then? And pull guns on people in cars, etc.
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Petr posted:Folks who think Trump is the last gasp of dying party need to put their dicks away and zip up, as much as I'd like it to be true. You know that after this, the Republican party will just limp for a couple of months, then get down to business working themselves up into a frenzy against the CLINTON in the WHITE HOUSE!!!! Then they'll kick our asses again in 2018 because liberals are idiots, and it will be back to business as usual. If Hillary is even a little less teflon than Barack was, they may even have a shot at 2020. What happens to the GOP all depends on the margin in November. If we don't see a blowout of historic proportions, Trumpism will take over the party and we will likely see the end of the Republican Party as we know it. If there is a massive wipeout for Trump in November, the party elites will succeed in taking back the party and we are back to business as usual. I also don't rule out a Wikileaks bomb granting Trump the win. The entire world had Hillary 2016 pencilled in as soon as Obama beat McCain, and her stint as SoS was going to be a dry run that would be scrutinized with a fine tooth comb to determine her capacity to be president. Despite knowing that her record would be run under an electron microscope, Hillary ran her state department the way Trump runs his presidential campaign.
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Night10194 posted:Does this mean we get to hear about how more of his campaign and state managers CC horse porn to people for the next 3 months, then? where else am I supposed to get up to date info on the exciting world of horse pornography?
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:it's like watching a drowning person struggle for air, except it's struggling to maintain some dignity when you know for sure you're going to lose and also your business empire will crumble to selling MREs and gold coins on breitbart.com The difference between a Trump supporter and one who is drowning is the one who is drowning knows it.
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TyrantWD posted:Despite knowing that her record would be run under an electron microscope, Hillary ran her state department the way Trump runs his presidential campaign. citation needed Isn't Hillary like universally loved when actually doing a job, it's only when she's applying for that job that lunatics remember she exists and get furious.
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Night10194 posted:Apparently Trump is finally starting to organize offices and stuff. Isn't it a little late to actually get the running and build a ground game? Like, as in, he probably won't be able to get one up in time? It kinda depends on how quick he can get up to speed. A lot of organizing operates exponentially - right now most of our effort is on recruiting the volunteers we'll need for October/November. Like just in terms of numbers I'll be running a single canvass this weekend that'll probably knock 5-6 packets (50 doors/packet). In October, I'll be running 5-6 canvasses a weekend, some of them doing like 10-15 packets. On GOTV weekend (Saturday up through E-Day), I'll run 10-12 canvasses, most of them doing 15-20 packets. So if they're successful at bringing in volunteers despite the late start, they could still be OK. But we don't know how well that's gonna work out, because nobody's really been dumb enough to wait until the last minute like this. vyelkin posted:You mean Maine that Obama won by 15%, recently had a poll showing Clinton up by 10, and only elects Republican governors because it's one of the off-year governor states? That Maine? Plus Maine's Republican governor is only there because an Independent turned it into a three-way race two cycles in a row. vyelkin posted:Clinton probably used her unlimited warchest to hire all the good state campaign managers already, so they'll be run by Lewandowski-calibre bumbling idiots and will fail miserably. I'm skeptical this is a thing. Most folks on the field side seem to stay on one side of the aisle, because the entry-level field jobs pay so lousy that you're only getting into it if you're dedicated to the Party. Plus Democrats and Republicans run their campaigns differently in the field. Jackson Taus fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Aug 13, 2016 |
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cheerfullydrab posted:I've been reading articles about Virginia's voting patterns for four presidential elections and it's crazy just how important it has become and what a symbol it is of larger trends. This is a recent development. The most wonderful thing about Virginia going blue: we can finally have an election that doesn't swing on loving Ohio and Florida for once.
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TyrantWD posted:What happens to the GOP all depends on the margin in November. If we don't see a blowout of historic proportions, Trumpism will take over the party and we will likely see the end of the Republican Party as we know it. If there is a massive wipeout for Trump in November, the party elites will succeed in taking back the party and we are back to business as usual. The GOP has had it out for Hillary Clinton for over 20 years now, there's a certain amount of fatigue on the attacks against her. Short of an email detailing how Clinton killed Ben Ghazi there's no wikileaks bomb that would actually matter, and I don't even think that would matter.
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Trump throwing a big poo poo fit on losing is probably the best hope for seeing the right wing crumble. He'll be blaming everyone except himself for the loss so Republican heavies might get a lot of twitter blame. Hopefully Trump will try to drag the freedom caucus into his own party as he won't want to give up the spotlight and having his own party lets him stay on all the news networks till his heart explodes. Normal Republican playbook after losing is to find a dumb issue to flip out about but if Trump starts his own hysterics party they might have to try something else.
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FuzzySlippers posted:Trump throwing a big poo poo fit on losing is probably the best hope for seeing the right wing crumble. He'll be blaming everyone except himself for the loss so Republican heavies might get a lot of twitter blame. Hopefully Trump will try to drag the freedom caucus into his own party as he won't want to give up the spotlight and having his own party lets him stay on all the news networks till his heart explodes. Trump got a lot of folks who are reliable Republicans but don't vote in primaries to vote for him in primaries this year. If those guys stay politically active on the GOP side, that could really re-shape things.
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TyrantWD posted:What happens to the GOP all depends on the margin in November. If we don't see a blowout of historic proportions, Trumpism will take over the party and we will likely see the end of the Republican Party as we know it. If there is a massive wipeout for Trump in November, the party elites will succeed in taking back the party and we are back to business as usual. Surely we are but one more revelation away from Hillary losing.
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prom candy posted:If Donald Trump can get this close to the presidency what's realistically stopping Guy Fieri? Clogged arteries?
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Jackson Taus posted:Trump got a lot of folks who are reliable Republicans but don't vote in primaries to vote for him in primaries this year. If those guys stay politically active on the GOP side, that could really re-shape things. Those people are literally dying out
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prom candy posted:If Donald Trump can get this close to the presidency what's realistically stopping Guy Fieri? He'd have to do something other than just shovel food into his face for once.
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:The GOP has had it out for Hillary Clinton for over 20 years now, there's a certain amount of fatigue on the attacks against her. Short of an email detailing how Clinton killed Ben Ghazi there's no wikileaks bomb that would actually matter, and I don't even think that would matter. Over in reality said wikileak bomb doesn't actually exist. At least a bomb that isn't as boring as Hillary liking ketchup on a hot dog or making a mint julep with Jack. Nothing will happen past some stupid social media memes and Trumping.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Guccifer 2.0 has finally unmasked the individuals responsible for our RIGGED political system so that YOU can let YOUR voice be heard! From uncovering war crimes to just straight up doxxing and harassment. It's nice that wikileaks retroactively justifies all the criticism it received.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Over in reality said wikileak bomb doesn't actually exist. At least a bomb that isn't as boring as Hillary liking ketchup on a hot dog or making a mint julep with Jack. Nothing will happen past some stupid social media memes and Trumping. I still love that this entire ridiculous thing is the culmination of a 20+ year death-grudge started by the fact that some old people were extremely mad that Hillary didn't want to make some cookies
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