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SSNeoman posted:From uncovering war crimes to just straight up doxxing and harassment. It's nice that wikileaks retroactively justifies all the criticism it received. When a site dedicated to "transparency" starts blatantly picking political sides and withholding information, yeah it's not really dedicated to transparency anymore, it just a political tool for digging up dirt on opponents.
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Armani posted:If I was running a campaign and a large part of my detractor's criticisms are directly at my skin colour being the colour of unrefrigerated creme fraiche or other colorful food analogies, I'd probably think twice before setting up shop on White St His California campaign office is probably in Orange County. Orlando's also in Orange County (The FL one though) and Trump's next campaign office probably belongs on Orange Blossom Trail.
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The sov-cits are getting ancy. I wonder if we will see more violence from them before the election. https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/764318359538237441 btw, jjmacnab was the best twitter follow from the bird sanctuary occupation.
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Epic High Five posted:Man it'd be great if somebody hacked wikileaks and released all the RNC emails they are sitting on and refusing to release FOR SOME REASON
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Trump wants to win, but he doesn't have to win in order to preserve his fragile ego. What DOES have to happen is that if he loses, he needs a large number of people to believe that he didn't lose--that it wasn't his fault. I don't know what that number is. I don't think fifty, or a hundred, or a thousand. I don't think just having his immediate family agree with him would be enough. I think as long as he has enough safe places to go.. ten or twenty websites and TV/radio hosts and their listeners willing to echo his chamber, I think he'll be fine.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The Republicans are not going to win the Presidency for a generation. It will take 16 years to not only undo the damage Trump is doing but to then correct the institutional problems as a party that became apparent in 2008. Bit delayed, but here, this is a pro read: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/6-big-takeaways-from-the-rnc-s-incredible-2012-autopsy Sword of Chomsky posted:The sov-cits are getting ancy. I wonder if we will see more violence from them before the election. We got a sovcit thread, though it more focuses on Bundy and his ilk than anything: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3761854
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Cardboard Box A posted:Wikileaks doesn't have the RNC emails, Putin does. Why do you think the Vichy RNC leadership surrendered to Trump? Because they had already been jacking off to Putin well before this election was underway for him to really need any collateral to hold the Right to work with him in any way. This isn't even a cohesive clandestine affair. This is Putin utilizing accelorationists and know-nothing Alt-right and aging Tea Baggers by letting them be loud and stupid while he lets Wikileaks be the anti-US hackers they love to be at this point. Like Hilldog, he doesn't even need to likely lift a finger because his opposition and willing tools are just that loving dumb enough to smash their face into the floor repetitively for him.
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Perhaps this is already happening, but I wonder if there is a concerted Democratic plan to hang Donald Trump around the neck of every Republican up for re-election. Hillary seems content to let Trump self-destruct, which is probably the best strategy. Given Trump's absolute inability to resist a feud, it seems like it would be shrewd to try to force every down ballot Republican to either embrace Trump or invite the wrath of the lunatic right and the Donald on Twitter. Could be an interesting debate season across the board.
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Kobayashi posted:Perhaps this is already happening, but I wonder if there is a concerted Democratic plan to hang Donald Trump around the neck of every Republican up for re-election. Hillary seems content to let Trump self-destruct, which is probably the best strategy. Given Trump's absolute inability to resist a feud, it seems like it would be shrewd to try to force every down ballot Republican to either embrace Trump or invite the wrath of the lunatic right and the Donald on Twitter. Could be an interesting debate season across the board. It's going on with McCain, though I have yet to see it be done with Ron Johnson.
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PhazonLink posted:Trollbama already set the trap, it's just a matter of poking Tiny Hands to stick his dick into it/forced all major Rs to justify why I tried to read this but I had a seizure.
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Kobayashi posted:Perhaps this is already happening, but I wonder if there is a concerted Democratic plan to hang Donald Trump around the neck of every Republican up for re-election. Hillary seems content to let Trump self-destruct, which is probably the best strategy. Given Trump's absolute inability to resist a feud, it seems like it would be shrewd to try to force every down ballot Republican to either embrace Trump or invite the wrath of the lunatic right and the Donald on Twitter. Could be an interesting debate season across the board. Funny you should mention this. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6132 quote:From:MirandaL@dnc.org
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iospace posted:It's going on with McCain, though I have yet to see it be done with Ron Johnson.
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Filthy Hans posted:I liked them when they released the Collateral Murder video (the Helicopter audio/guncam leak). I haven't thought much of them since. Their releases became increasingly irrelevant over time, those releases were Assange's increasingly desperate grabs for more attention. Collateral Murder was in 2009, Assange's alleged act of rape was in 2010, and whether or not he did it his awful character was exposed more and more. He's declined to the point that Wikileaks is a literal mouthpiece for Putin. gently caress that guy and I hope he's being driven crazy in that tiny Ecuadorean embassy he calls home. Collateral Murder was also edited to make the US seem more culpable than it actually was. Which I suppose really should have tipped us off that Assange was nothing but an attention whore, and not a journalist.
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VirtualStranger posted:Funny you should mention this. lol also 3 months ago the focus was on sowing maximum discord in the GOP ranks because it was blindingly obvious that Trump was going to be the nominee. Looks like Miranda didn't get that message, because people are already being Trumped now that he's unavoidable.
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cargo cult posted:I really don't think the alt-right losing the presidency for another four years while establishing an effective Dolchstoßlegende three months out bodes well for internal or foreign policy stability at all. "In certain sections of this state, they cheat and they can't win without cheating," Trump talking about loving PA. I'm just empty quoting myself to attempt to address my personal anxieties...........
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33rd Degree Idiot posted:Yes, this is the obvious strategy, were this to happen. Claiming to have damning evidence that you will be releasing in the near future is a bizarre strategy, and Wikileaks isn't even the first group to employ it this year. Anonymous threatened Ted Cruz with damning info and gave him two weeks to quit campaigning for Prez or they'd release it and ruin his life. He didn't quit and it turned out that they didn't have dick. I think in the case of Anonymous they were gambling on Ted Cruz having a bunch of skeletons in his closet and he might be bluffed out of the race, and in the case of Wikileaks they're trying to keep the idea of Clinton corruption an ever-present meme in the media and online. The end result is the same wet fart either way.
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iospace posted:Bit delayed, but here, this is a pro read: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/6-big-takeaways-from-the-rnc-s-incredible-2012-autopsy I recall reading this in 2013 but I'd forgotten the particulars. Holy poo poo was this worth reading again in light of current events.
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VirtualStranger posted:Funny you should mention this. Doesn't sound like the DNC was in the tank for Clinton at all.
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Bip Roberts posted:Doesn't sound like the DNC was in the tank for Clinton at all. It's almost like around May 16th Hillary had already p much clinched the nomination. Bernie would have had to win the remaining few primaries by astronomical numbers to win the pledged delegates count. It also makes sense for the Clinton campaign to send info on tactics and ways to handle the eventual general election to the DNC.
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PhazonLink posted:Trollbama already set the trap, it's just a matter of poking Tiny Hands to stick his dick into it/forced all major Rs to justify why I know we're all excited, but what?
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Dexo posted:It's almost like around May 16th Hillary had already p much clinched the nomination. Bernie would have had to win the remaining few primaries by astronomical numbers to win the pledged delegates count. I was pointing out with this counternaritive that the Clinton campaign controlled the DNC during the primary doesn't jive at all with them pushing back on their campaign stratagem.
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Petr posted:Conservatism may be at a low point, but populism isn't, and the next demagogue may not have the disadvantage of being a literally insane fascist. The next couple of decades may see a modern Huey Long, who could gently caress up the Democratic party (and possibly America) as much as a Trump presidency.
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Crossposted: So is the rest of Trump's campaign going to be pretty much "incites mob", and is he going to be able to get away with doing this and keep coyly pretending he's doing something else?
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Petr posted:Conservatism may be at a low point, but populism isn't, and the next demagogue may not have the disadvantage of being a literally insane fascist. The next couple of decades may see a modern Huey Long, who could gently caress up the Democratic party (and possibly America) as much as a Trump presidency. Populism in the "poor white" sense will basically always look like Trump. Populism in the "hey let's actually support everyone" will help Democrats much more than Republicans, at least in the near future.
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Zwabu posted:Crossposted: define "get away with"
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computer parts posted:Populism in the "poor white" sense will basically always look like Trump. It's all window dressing, friend.
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Fangz posted:I think Obama's half-brother also came out for Trump for some weird reason. From a while back, but he hates gays and is supporting the party most likely to discriminate against them.
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Samovar posted:From a while back, but he hates gays and is supporting the party most likely to discriminate against them.
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Petr posted:It's all window dressing, friend. No, it actually isn't.
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computer parts posted:No, it actually isn't. You're right, Trump is a principled conservative who really believes in the power of the Republican platform to effect positive change for everyday Americans. And if he wasn't surely the same thing couldn't happen on the left, because they are dumb and we are smart.
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Petr posted:You're right, Trump is a principled conservative who really believes in the power of the Republican platform to effect positive change for everyday Americans. And if he wasn't surely the same thing couldn't happen on the left, because they are dumb and we are smart. I'm really curious what you think the Democratic equivalent to Trump's "Evict the Mexicans and Muslims to get your jobs back" line is.
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computer parts posted:I'm really curious what you think the Democratic equivalent to Trump's "Evict the Mexicans and Muslims to get your jobs back" line is. whoa amazingly I'm not the weird strawman you've got in your head, so I don't think there is one
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Petr posted:whoa amazingly I'm not the weird strawman you've got in your head, so I don't think there is one Petr posted:The next couple of decades may see a modern Huey Long, who could gently caress up the Democratic party (and possibly America) as much as a Trump presidency. Right.
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computer parts posted:Right. If you have a point, it would be cool if you made it.
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Petr posted:If you have a point, it would be cool if you made it. Likewise.
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computer parts posted:Likewise. It's in the thing you just quoted, friend. You seem to be itching for an argument with someone who's not me.
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Petr posted:It's in the thing you just quoted, friend. No, it doesn't appear to be.
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