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I stopped listening to Metallica when Lars shat all over Napster, especially with that incredibly dumb skit at the 2000 MTV music awards. Megadeth is better anyway.
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Boon posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc4QvZoS9O0 His sigh at 9:10 was great after one of the pundits compared this commentary to Obama saying Republicans are like Iranian hard-liners. I'm not a Don Lemon fan or detractor, he's a bit airheaded sometimes, but this segment I'm 
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UV_Catastrophe posted:Currently, the other thing I see on Twitter about Milwaukee is an eruption of fiery hot takes. I saw some businesses set on fire. I don't know why people think that's the go-to for poo poo like this. Good job loving owners and employees out of property and income, I guess.
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trump's war on media always seems funny to me, i felt the media was his strongest weapon on getting traction in his campaign. i guess batching the media is appealing to his voter-base/alt-right.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Step 1: Say the magic words "radical Islamic terrorism" No, that will only happen if a traitorous democrat says it. It's extremely important because
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iospace posted:Calmed down, thankfully. Milwaukee is pretty much a prime example of de facto segregation. The city is black, the suburbs are white, and gods forbid if you try to make your suburb attractive to black people as the mayor of New Berlin found out. I'm guessing the lesson they learned here is "keeping them segregated is good" and not "there are serious problems at the root of this, we should examine them"
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Freakazoid_ posted:I stopped listening to Metallica when Lars shat all over Napster, especially with that incredibly dumb skit at the 2000 MTV music awards. If musicians' opinions matter to your enjoyment of the music, I have some bad news about Dave Mustaine...
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I saw some businesses set on fire. I don't know why people think that's the go-to for poo poo like this. Option 2: The ever-present plants and bad-faith actors, who want to make drat sure the media never sees a "peaceful protest" and maybe turns on the pigs for once. [Edit] Option 3: Wait, just saw your username, how about gently caress off and take your lovely concern trolling back to GBS or /pol/?
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Did we leave residual troops in Vietnam after we pulled out?
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What bands/singers would even play at a Trump rally? If he wins, would Ted Nugent sing the national anthem on inauguration day?
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Mr Interweb posted:Did we leave residual troops in Vietnam after we pulled out? i wasn't born durring the way, but i thought we left in the same matter of when the cops show up at a high school party with beer.
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Freakazoid_ posted:Megadeth is better anyway. I like that one song that was literally a Bon Jovi tune
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Step 1: Say the magic words "radical Islamic terrorism" What's the deal with that anyway? I've seen tons of comments from people who almost literally claim this and that Obama should finally say that. They always write those words in all caps though. What's the idea behind this, and why is this specific phrasing so important? Do they just think that those three words are inherently linked? If they assume that those words all mean the same thing, why do they want to repeat it three times? I'm trying to apply logic to something fundamentally stupid, but I kinda want to know where this is coming from.
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Cyron posted:i wasn't born durring the way, but i thought we left in the same matter of when the cops show up at a high school party with beer. it wasnt quite that quick we had a nominal draw restoring the prewar peace in '73, instituted heavy withdrawals, and then the nva came south and took sai gon on liberation day in 75 thats when we had to burn rubber with the choppers and all that, pushing them overboard after theyd land on a carrier deck just to fit more people on board
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Cyron posted:i wasn't born durring the way, but i thought we left in the same matter of when the cops show up at a high school party with beer. That's what I thought, but some Trump flack said that when Trump said we should get out of Iraq in 2007, that he OBVIOUSLY meant leaving a residual force just like we left in all countries we invaded in the past.
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“And he calls it ISIL. And the reason he calls it ISIL is he likes to bother everybody,” Trump told a Miami NBC affiliate, according to CBS News reporter Sopan Deb. “He’s like the only one who is still calling it ISIL.” This is from a few days ago, but just look at this statement. Sigh.
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iospace posted:I never got why the Obama administration prefers ISIL over ISIS, but focusing on that is missing the forest for the trees in the biggest way possible. Though I doubt it's his intention, getting the public to think of something other than ISIS will prevent poo poo like this from happening.
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deathbysnusnu posted:Since this is 80's metal chat, this is probably pertinent. Hillary is the only candidate endorsed by Slayer. Freakazoid_ posted:I stopped listening to Metallica when Lars shat all over Napster, especially with that incredibly dumb skit at the 2000 MTV music awards. Dirt posted:This is the best opinion in this whole thread. Pretty sure Dave would be happy to endorse Trump tho.
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Mr Interweb posted:"He likes to bother everybody"? The hell does that mean? "He's a nagger."
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Air is lava! posted:What's the deal with that anyway? I've seen tons of comments from people who almost literally claim this and that Obama should finally say that. They always write those words in all caps though. In certain (fundamentalist/racist/bigoted) circles it is accepted that Islam is straight up evil and the actual root cause for all terrorist attacks and all of the trouble in the Middle East. They see a refusal by Obama (and everyone else with a brain) to point this out as him being weak (or as proof that he himself is Muslim). "RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM" is mostly a dog whistle to those groups of people. Those using it let their base know that they are good Christians like them and will smite the unbelievers while retaining the ability to hide behind "I didn't say Islam was bad, only the radical portions!" if called out for blaming a religion for the actions of a few.
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TheBigAristotle posted:“And he calls it ISIL. And the reason he calls it ISIL is he likes to bother everybody,” Trump told a Miami NBC affiliate, according to CBS News reporter Sopan Deb. “He’s like the only one who is still calling it ISIL.” They used to bitch about how he pronounced Afghanistan too.
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Crow Jane posted:What bands/singers would even play at a Trump rally? If he wins, would Ted Nugent sing the national anthem on inauguration day?
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Shifty Pony posted:In certain (fundamentalist/racist/bigoted) circles it is accepted that Islam is straight up evil and the actual root cause for all terrorist attacks and all of the trouble in the Middle East. They see a refusal by Obama (and everyone else with a brain) to point this out as him being weak (or as proof that he himself is Muslim). It's also a matter of making Obama dance to their specific phrasing. Trump and other Republicans are trying to control what Democrats say and don't say. If Obama doesn't use the magic words, they get to say he's not "getting serious" about "terrorism," and if he does use the words, it looks like they cowed him into using the words. Just playground bullying writ large. Plus it makes a good soundbite -- "why won't Obama call terrorists terrorists?" -- even if the soundbite is, of course, manifestly untrue if you think about it for half a second. On that angle it plays into the many similar times Republicans have criticized Obama for "refusing to call [_____] terror" when he did in fact call whatever incident an act of terror but they're ignoring it.
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Air is lava! posted:What's the deal with that anyway? I've seen tons of comments from people who almost literally claim this and that Obama should finally say that. They always write those words in all caps though. I get the feeling that the ideologically racist crowd are pushing this in order to specifically request social sanction from other authority figures. Social sanction was important after the Brexit happened and played a part in the sudden spike of hate crimes occurring, because the ideological racists used the vote to think that everyone was on their side and thus to hassle or heckle any perceived minority was therefore the "right" thing to do. In requesting a non-republican or even establishment-republican to say the words "radical islamic terrorism," the ideological racists are demanding people to validate their viewpoint. It would be taken as a sign of automatic agreement with them, even if there isn't any actual agreement to be had. The problem, of course, is what happens after the magic words are actually used.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's also a matter of making Obama dance to their specific phrasing. Trump and other Republicans are trying to control what Democrats say and don't say. If Obama doesn't use the magic words, they get to say he's not "getting serious" about "terrorism," and if he does use the words, it looks like they cowed him into using the words. Just playground bullying writ large. The other approach is what Clinton did, which was to call it "radical Islamist terrorism" which is strictly speaking more accurate, and close enough to what they said that they would have to dip into *shudder* nuance to still hit her on it, so they just shook their fists and (for the most part) moved on to other insane things
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Goatman Sacks posted:here's something I've always wondered that the media never seems to ask - what was Obama exactly supposed to do with the status of forces agreement? Maliki didn't want us there. He would never have signed it. Were we supposed to just stay, against the wishes of the elected government? The argument I've heard is that "Maliki actually wanted us to stay, he / nefarious elements of his administration were just playing hardball with unserious demands like trying US soldiers in Iraqi courts to get more concessions". It's not completely implausible if you're someone who assumes that Obama's diplomacy is a limp-wristed incompetent failure on all counts everywhere.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's also a matter of making Obama dance to their specific phrasing. Trump and other Republicans are trying to control what Democrats say and don't say. If Obama doesn't use the magic words, they get to say he's not "getting serious" about "terrorism," and if he does use the words, it looks like they cowed him into using the words. Just playground bullying writ large.
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iospace posted:I never got why the Obama administration prefers ISIL over ISIS, but focusing on that is missing the forest for the trees in the biggest way possible. http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/whats-the-difference-between-isis-and-isil-333648963763
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Gail Wynand posted:Billy Corgan is a big Alex Jones fan so he'd probably be on board. That's CEO of TNA wrestling Billy Corgan to you 
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rscott posted:That's CEO of TNA wrestling Billy Corgan to you
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TheBigAristotle posted:“And he calls it ISIL. And the reason he calls it ISIL is he likes to bother everybody,” Trump told a Miami NBC affiliate, according to CBS News reporter Sopan Deb. “He’s like the only one who is still calling it ISIL.” IMO Obama (and everyone else, for that matter!) should only ever call them Daesh. We'd stop giving Egyptian gods and fake spy organizations a bad name, and calling the group Daesh annoys the piss out of them. Win-win!
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iospace posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/764870785634799617 https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/708474355211227136
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When even conservative talk radio hosts are responding to their conscience and saying "I can't keep lying for Trump" then you know poo poo is hosed
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zoux posted:They used to bitch about how he pronounced Afghanistan too. I thought it was his (more correct) pronunciation of Pakistan, with the first "a" like "father" rather than… "rather". If Russia continues to invade Ukraine, I bet we'll see the same thing with "The Ukraine". (It's actually hard for me to remember to drop the "the", I'm old.)
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foobardog posted:I thought it was his (more correct) pronunciation of Pakistan, with the first "a" like "father" rather than… "rather". father and rather rhyme tho 
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