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I was too. The pop music is definitely a post Guardians add in and most likely wasn't in the original vision. Everyone loved Hooked On a Feeling in the Guardians trailer or X Gon Give It To Ya in the Deadpool trailer so the studio forced Suicide Squad to jump on that poo poo when it clearly didn't really fit.
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Suicide Squad was ehh, but yeah, it didn't help that a majority of the film's score was made up of recognizable music; that's really what I disliked the most because of that tonal disconnect and blatant studio meddling. After the bar scene, the licensed music inserts were way less obnoxious which, unsurprisingly, made the movie better for me. I think what I hated the most was the use of Eminem's "Without Me" because of how loving on the nose the lyrics were with the scene it soundtracked. It was also part of a literal one two punch of mainstream music because maybe a minute or two before that song dropped, Seven Nation Army played right before it during another scene. Holy poo poo, who let that happen...
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CharlestheHammer posted:I was being serious. I know, and it's adorable.
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Rocksicles posted:I know, and it's adorable. I honestly believe if WB execs didn't gently caress around and hire a movie trailer studio to make a Bohemian Rhapsody/Ballroom Blitz infused cut of the film, Ayer's vision and final cut of Suicide Squad would have contained maybe 1 or 2 popular music tracks at most. Maybe even zero. I'm an ardent proponent of the DCEU films and am a bigger fan of DC in general, but even I can see it's wholly obvious that the inclusion of tracks from the Rolling Stones, White Stripes, etc. was an attempt to mimic the quirky music success of other anti-hero films (Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy) as a reaction to how poorly BvS was received. The Hollywood Reporter article about the hidden drama behind Suicide Squad's production backs that up.
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I honestly give zero fucks. But it's funny watching some of you lot get bent out of shape about it.
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I wasn't bent out of shape? It's kind of funny but copying GOTG is the least of its problems.
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Rocksicles posted:I honestly give zero fucks. But it's funny watching some of you lot get bent out of shape about it. I think you give some fucks.
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Not really man, the only thing that i didn't like was the editing, which was obviously a hatchet job from someone higher up. I still enjoyed the hell out of it. GoTG too. 
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Rocksicles posted:I honestly give zero fucks. But it's funny watching some of you lot get bent out of shape about it. The view must be nice from so far above it all
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Okay let's just be honest though that the last, like, three pages of this thread is the biggest hottest mess that I'm real sorry I missed
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Wait, Suicide Squad is where that awful Bohemian Rhapsody cover came from? Christ that thing is awful. Like, Disturbed 'Sound Of Silence' levels of awful.
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Travis343 posted:Let's be fair, "Jared Leto Fan" would be written on their foreheads, not their T-shirts. 99% of them wouldn't have cared until he was cast as the Joker. That 1% are still 30 Seconds to Mars fans. gently caress Joker fandom and gently caress what they've turned the Joker into.
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CharlestheHammer posted:It's a movie about a bunch of losers banding together without any real plot. Also neither is very good. Please stop.
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teagone posted:I honestly believe if WB execs didn't gently caress around and hire a movie trailer studio to make a Bohemian Rhapsody/Ballroom Blitz infused cut of the film, Ayer's vision and final cut of Suicide Squad would have contained maybe 1 or 2 popular music tracks at most. Maybe even zero. I'm an ardent proponent of the DCEU films and am a bigger fan of DC in general, but even I can see it's wholly obvious that the inclusion of tracks from the Rolling Stones, White Stripes, etc. was an attempt to mimic the quirky music success of other anti-hero films (Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy) as a reaction to how poorly BvS was received. The Hollywood Reporter article about the hidden drama behind Suicide Squad's production backs that up. Definitely. The top 40s fm stuff just isn't really a part of a movie, it's slapped on the first act to change the tone of the scenes and then at the last twenty minutes they put another two or three, like there's a whole 40 minutes of sub-par action that just has zero of that style going on because there's only so much you can do in post.
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To absolutely nobody's surprise, SS had a 44 million dollar second weekend, bringing its total domestic cume to 222 million and worldwide to 465 million. Yet another disastrous second weekend collapse for a DCEU title, with a 67% drop from its first weekend this time, about smack-dab in the middle between MoS' 65% and BvS' 69%. At this point I wonder if that's just, the brand that the DCEU is gonna have to live with - all diehard DC fans go see it, everyone else stays away. And nobody sees it more than once either way.
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Toxxupation posted:At this point I wonder if that's just, the brand that the DCEU is gonna have to live with - all diehard DC fans go see it, everyone else stays away. And nobody sees it more than once either way. We should not exclude the very real possibility that Disney is bribing millions of prospective audience members not to go and see the movies. 
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Maybe doing a good movie with a straightforward script and decent editing would net WB that fabled highly successful movie?
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Maybe doing a good movie with a straightforward script and decent editing would net WB that fabled highly successful movie? Movie studios are funny that way. Businesses that have been around for decades that seemingly have no institutional knowledge. Every movie might as well be their first one.
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Based on this page, I'm so glad I just jumped over and ignored the last two weeks of this thread.
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twistedmentat posted:99% of them wouldn't have cared until he was cast as the Joker. That 1% are still 30 Seconds to Mars fans. gently caress Joker fandom and gently caress what they've turned the Joker into. RIP Wicked J https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCZtKIKQQgo
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The music works in Guardians because it has an explained emotional connection to the main character and isn't intentionally picking lyrics just because they match something on the screen.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Maybe doing a good movie with a straightforward script and decent editing would net WB that fabled highly successful movie? They don't want to do that, they want to immediately have Avengers money and gently caress YOU BUDDY I know what I'm doing *does a bunch more coke and makes important decisions about how to turn a finished movie into a completely different successful movie, entirely in post*
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Jesus Christ. I think I brought it before in this thread or one like it but, honest to god, I have never ever in my life, prior to this year, seen "editing" used in film criticism. Like at all. I watch a ton of movies and read a lot reviews and message boards but for some reason 2016 is like the year of lovely editing. Can anyone name a film prior to 2014 where editing was ever even mentioned, brought up or noticed at all? For good or for ill? Aside from porno movies I mean. Like, in ANY way? I can't. The gently caress is going on in the god damned editing room these days? You'd think it'd get easier with not having to physically cut out strips of film and poo poo like that but it seems like suddenly every loving film on the planet was edited poorly.
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Hey, uhhh... uh... so who hasn't been in a Marvel Studios film that they desperately need to use (outside of the Fox properties)? I'd wager Namor is a big one since they supposedly have his rights. Maybe Squirrel Girl to strike while the iron is hot. Kang?
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BiggerBoat posted:Jesus Christ. I think I brought it before in this thread or one like it but, honest to god, I have never ever in my life, prior to this year, seen "editing" used in film criticism. Like at all. I watch a ton of movies and read a lot reviews and message boards but for some reason 2016 is like the year of lovely editing. It probably has something to do with the biggest movies now being big nerd attractors? Most people don't notice editing.
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BiggerBoat posted:Jesus Christ. I think I brought it before in this thread or one like it but, honest to god, I have never ever in my life, prior to this year, seen "editing" used in film criticism. Like at all. I watch a ton of movies and read a lot reviews and message boards but for some reason 2016 is like the year of lovely editing. Depends if you mean "large sections of the film were cut" (eg Brazil, or Blade Runner, or Magnificent Ambersons) or "the whole thing is full of fast, choppy cuts" (eg the Bourne movies, MTV-style editing), but yeah, it definitely happened.
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People have been bitching about badly edited films since Alien 3, it's not a new thing at all. Like, the rise of the term "Director's Cut" quite literally references the process of editing in its title.
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Little Mac posted:Hey, uhhh... uh... so who hasn't been in a Marvel Studios film that they desperately need to use (outside of the Fox properties)? I'd wager Namor is a big one since they supposedly have his rights. Maybe Squirrel Girl to strike while the iron is hot. In before ms marvel I would like to see marvel do a hyperion movie that gets better reviews than Superman because that would make me laugh
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Little Mac posted:Hey, uhhh... uh... so who hasn't been in a Marvel Studios film that they desperately need to use (outside of the Fox properties)? I'd wager Namor is a big one since they supposedly have his rights. Maybe Squirrel Girl to strike while the iron is hot. I wouldn't go as far as desperately, but I would like to see if they could pull off She-Hulk.
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They could do Hyperion then Sentry so we watch Marvel beat DC at it's own game twice, once at the idealized version of Superman and again at Sadbrain Doesn't Wanna Help People Grim 'N Gritty Superman.
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I think she hulk would be a good secondary character for the TV shows, because that's where the rest of their legal heroes are.
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Toxxupation posted:People have been bitching about badly edited films since Alien 3, it's not a new thing at all. And the one for Daredevil is way better than the theatrical release.
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Ignite Memories posted:I think she hulk would be a good secondary character for the TV shows, because that's where the rest of their legal heroes are. And hellcat is already there
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Little Mac posted:Hey, uhhh... uh... so who hasn't been in a Marvel Studios film that they desperately need to use (outside of the Fox properties)? I'd wager Namor is a big one since they supposedly have his rights. Maybe Squirrel Girl to strike while the iron is hot. She-Hulk, Squirrel Girl is suddenly the name on a bunch of female Hollywood's lips for some reason so yeah I would argue that they should explore it at least by 2020 (when she'll have a consistent list of "serious" stories to draw from) , Spider-Woman, some version of Nova, Young Avengers volume 2, Runaways, Agent Venom, Scarlet Spider, Angela, Avengers Academy. That's a wishlist, a vast majority of those aren't commercially viable but I would say Kate Bishop/Sam Alexander/America Chavez/Billy and Teddy/ Nico Minoru can all be great additions to the current MCU. NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Kate bishop hawkeye is a good idea The ultimates would be cool but just lol at that ever happening  Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur might be a cool kids movie set in the mcu
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Kate Bishop Hawkeye has to be somewhere in the pipeline, doesn't it? Considering Hawkeye spent all of the last movie talking about retiring. He can't now since he's a refugee in Wakanda, but that'll blow over sooner or later.
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Little Mac posted:Hey, uhhh... uh... so who hasn't been in a Marvel Studios film that they desperately need to use (outside of the Fox properties)? I'd wager Namor is a big one since they supposedly have his rights. Maybe Squirrel Girl to strike while the iron is hot. The last I heard Namor was still in a weird zone. I think it's similar to Hulk in that they can use the character, but they can't make a Namor movie. Kang is Fox's because of his ties to Fantastic Four.
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The incredibles are teleported to the MCU and serve as ff replacements featuring totally not Dr doom totally not kang and totally not Galactus
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X-O posted:The last I heard Namor was still in a weird zone. I think it's similar to Hulk in that they can use the character, but they can't make a Namor movie. Kang is Fox's because of his ties to Fantastic Four. They technically could make another Hulk solo movie, but Universal has full distribution rights and Disney does not want to spend tons of money making a movie to have someone else control what theaters it ends up in, when the release date is, and taking a chunk of the profits. Rubiks Pubes posted:How long until the fantastic four rights revert to Marvel? If Fox doesn't have another FF movie "in production" in 7 years, then they revert back to Marvel.
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