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Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008
Good news all: I found the directorates hanzo steel home defense thread in SGBS and bumped it up for new generations to enjoy.

You're welcome.

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Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
RIP Razor titan

https://zkillboard.com/kill/55557411/

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Aug 14, 2016

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

Rhymenoserous posted:

Good news all: I found the directorates hanzo steel home defense thread in SGBS and bumped it up for new generations to enjoy.

You're welcome.

:allears:

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
yes paco I got booted from Goonwaffe AND YOU'RE NEXT

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

What's going on in this thre- oh good lord.

Picking and choosing smart posts to respond toL

Booley posted:

Since they refused to take the game of sov seriously enough to actually be prepared to defend it well, yeah they badly needed to take the game less seriously.

I think that fight club as an idea is great, since there are a fair number of people out there who want to get fights using 0.0 mechanics (bombers, bubbles, etc) that you can't do in lowsec, but who also aren't interested in the game of sov. Unfortunately since NPC nullsec has utter garbage for isk making opportunities, the only way to make fight club work is if they have some sort of patron that keeps whoever glances at the sov from being able to take it.

Kinda have to disagree. Every fight club that has ever existed in the history of Eve (hell, has half this thread been around for the old Delve Thunderdomes?) has existed right up until someone poked slightly hard -- because if they didn't, they promptly turned into a proper coalition. That said, I think the present Eve culture is less likely to make a sustainable firedome than previous attempts at it.

In that meeting soundcloud, you could hear visceral disgust in people's voices at the idea of doing permanent blues or coordinated doctrines, even if "permanent" was as short as a few weeks. For a variety of reasons, the majority of Eve sees cooperation as despicable, and they will refuse to link arms even in the face of oblivion. Honestly, QFC didn't die because Broski harassed it; QFC died because QFC didn't want it badly enough -- if it hadn't been Broski, it'd have been someone else, maybe even us.

It is true that NPC nullsec is mostly garbage.

Unfunny Poster posted:

I enjoyed the "why are you attacking us? goons are in delve :qq:" argument that was used.

Goons have been the singular villain in Eve for so long, people almost don't know what to do.

Orange Red Bull posted:

mister vee always said elise is a snake and i believe it

Elise is the Good Cop. The Bad Cop will threaten to take you out back and rough you up a bit; the Good Cop doesn't threaten it, but that doesn't mean he's made a promise to not do it.

You can almost always tell when PL's getting bored with a campaign, because that's when Elise starts making pep-talk posts on Reddit to try to keep them undocking.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ullerrm posted:

Goons have been the singular villain in Eve for so long, people almost don't know what to do.

:)

Also I got a PM for you about a pretty silly/crazy thing I was taking a look at.

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

ullerrm posted:

What's going on in this thre- oh good lord.

Picking and choosing smart posts to respond toL


Kinda have to disagree. Every fight club that has ever existed in the history of Eve (hell, has half this thread been around for the old Delve Thunderdomes?) has existed right up until someone poked slightly hard -- because if they didn't, they promptly turned into a proper coalition. That said, I think the present Eve culture is less likely to make a sustainable firedome than previous attempts at it.

In that meeting soundcloud, you could hear visceral disgust in people's voices at the idea of doing permanent blues or coordinated doctrines, even if "permanent" was as short as a few weeks. For a variety of reasons, the majority of Eve sees cooperation as despicable, and they will refuse to link arms even in the face of oblivion. Honestly, QFC didn't die because Broski harassed it; QFC died because QFC didn't want it badly enough -- if it hadn't been Broski, it'd have been someone else, maybe even us.

It is true that NPC nullsec is mostly garbage.


Isn't that pretty much what I said? If they want sov, and want to have their thunderdome, they have to be prepared to do things like take it seriously and cooperate with each other. They weren't.

There was absolutely no coordinated leadership among fight Club. The lovely alliances lead by people with maybe 200 kills to their name, who were absolutely convinced that HML sacrilege and 4x mrar oneiros was a viable doctrine to run with brave ANIs or Rote t3cs had just as much say in decisions as anyone else. Those same groups also contributed 0 caps, but literally every fleet we had involved them begging me to drop my caps. The entire thing was a lesson that coalitions that try to work by group consensus fail miserably.

Oh, and if you ever said coalition they'd have a conniption, they were a confederation of independent alliances!

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Booley posted:

Oh, and if you ever said coalition they'd have a conniption, they were a confederation of independent alliances!

That's because the people who took over QFC are idiots.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Unfunny Poster posted:

That's because the people who took over QFC are idiots.

are you saying that panda mclegion has the secret sauce to make a thunderdome fightclub work and these guys didnt

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




or is it more the sugar daddy thing booley was talking about that keeps the plebs safe when they caracal/rupture brawl

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

Aw poor Nanaki. He is super nice.

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

Orange Red Bull posted:

are you saying that panda mclegion has the secret sauce to make a thunderdome fightclub work and these guys didnt


Orange Red Bull posted:

or is it more the sugar daddy thing booley was talking about that keeps the plebs safe when they caracal/rupture brawl

It's both. When gobbins ran it other people could discuss things, but he got the final say. Since he left, nobody had any sort of decision making power at all. It also definitely helped to have it be a game preserve of PL/PH/NC, where both a horde of PH newbies in feroxes and a good NCPL fleet would show up to anything serious.

harlyq
May 9, 2014

The taint is real
I am so happy to be back at rock crushing think im sitting on something ridiculous like 12 bil worth of compressed ore. Greatest thing is people keep comin at my procurers and getting bug zapped. To bad videogames does not wat to join me is this mad orgy of mining.

Also should I feed my addiction and add 10 more miners to my collection?

harlyq fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Aug 14, 2016

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

harlyq posted:

I am so happy to be back at rock crushing think im sitting on something ridiculous like 12 bil worth of compressed ore. Greatest thing is people keep comin at my procurers and getting bug zapped. To bad videogames does not wat to join me is this mad orgy of mining.

Also should I feed my addiction and add 10 more miners to my collection?

This is going to become a thing isn't it?

In 3 years you'll be multiboxing 30 hulks in GY5 and haggling with Firv over compressed ice prices.

harlyq
May 9, 2014

The taint is real

Zephyrine posted:

This is going to become a thing isn't it?

In 3 years you'll be multiboxing 30 hulks in GY5 and haggling with Firv over compressed ice prices.

I was already running 15 hulks out of efico and i never sold to firvain. His prices where so low i made more selling to jita or selling to other capital builders when they asked if i had mins.

Also now that im looking at building capitals i might need to keep the ore to build super cheap dreads since i mined it the minerals are free.

Divine Blob
Mar 13, 2013
i ship all my space poo poo over to D-W just to find out i cant build anything over there because ccp are lazy shits and citadels cant build stuff until INDUSTRIAL citadels come out gently caress them zzz

Baculus
Oct 25, 2007

I DID A BIG CACA IN MY DRUG STORE DIAPER

Divine Blob posted:

i ship all my space poo poo over to D-W just to find out i cant build anything over there because ccp are lazy shits and citadels cant build stuff until INDUSTRIAL citadels come out gently caress them zzz

Does this mean that internal affairs has cleared you as a potential enemy of the state?

Endie
Feb 7, 2007

Jings

Baculus posted:

Does this mean that internal affairs has cleared you as a potential enemy of the state?

You know the bit at the end of 1984 where they let him go and he sits in the Chestnut Cafe even though he's obviously going to get arrested and executed again later?

Divine Blob
Mar 13, 2013

Baculus posted:

Does this mean that internal affairs has cleared you as a potential enemy of the state?

Hopefully? I don't know, I'll probably get flagged again short thereafter because I love asking stupid questions and being stupid in general. I'll try holding out for another month so I can join hole squad and maybe I'll be safe from this dude.

Endie posted:

You know the bit at the end of 1984 where they let him go and he sits in the Chestnut Cafe even though he's obviously going to get arrested and executed again later?

wait what the gently caress is that actually what happens? i thought he died at the end because they put him in the fear chamber or whatever

i havent read that book in forever though

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

Divine Blob posted:

wait what the gently caress is that actually what happens? i thought he died at the end because they put him in the fear chamber or whatever

i havent read that book in forever though

He asks why they waste so much effort on him when they are just going to execute him anyway.

It is explained to him that they need to convert him before they can kill him. So he is released from miniluv. Given a decent job and then a long time later. After observing some propaganda he admitted to himself that he did in fact love big brother. Shortly after he finds himself within the ministry of live and was shot in the head.

Naz al-Ghul
Mar 23, 2014

Honorarily Japanese

Zephyrine posted:

He asks why they waste so much effort on him when they are just going to execute him anyway.

It is explained to him that they need to convert him before they can kill him. So he is released from miniluv. Given a decent job and then a long time later. After observing some propaganda he admitted to himself that he did in fact love big brother. Shortly after he finds himself within the ministry of live and was shot in the head.

I should read this book. I've always strayed away from it because nutty people like Glenn Beck drew parallels to it and healthcare or stupid bullshit, but it sounds fascinating.

Daler Mehndi
Apr 10, 2005

Tunak Tunak Tun!

Nazareth posted:

I should read this book. I've always strayed away from it because nutty people like Glenn Beck drew parallels to it and healthcare or stupid bullshit, but it sounds fascinating.
You'll be able to join the rest of us and cringe when people incorrectly reference it. :sun:

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
Yes welcome to cringe city.

"Show id to buy a gun? This is exactly like 1984"

I doubt even Orwell would have expected that constant monitoring by the government would be redundant. With facebook. Twitter and selfies the people do the work themselves and pay for the equipment to boot.

FranktheBank
May 14, 2007
In the beginning...the universe was created. his has been widely regarded as a bad move and has made a lot of people very angry.
Zephhhhhhh. Are you still at work? I need my fix!

edit: im not an addict, i can stop any time i want

FranktheBank fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 14, 2016

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

FranktheBank posted:

Zephhhhhhh. Are you still at work? I need my fix!

edit: im not an addict, i can stop any time i want

Still at work yes. For a few more hours.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Zephyrine posted:

Still at work yes. For a few more hours.

what kind of socialist utopia has people work on sundays :psyduck:

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

Orange Red Bull posted:

what kind of socialist utopia has people work on sundays :psyduck:

I run my own business and I was sick last week so it just piles up.

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

harlyq posted:

To bad videogames does not wat to join me is this mad orgy of mining.

Not true, friend! I am just away from the computer more than not and sadly don't get time to play all my games!

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

FranktheBank posted:

Zephhhhhhh. Are you still at work? I need my fix!

edit: im not an addict, i can stop any time i want

Contracts up.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

had some fun with my jump freighter today



boy, am i glad that proteus stopped bumping and lit a cyno in the wrong spot so i could sloooooooooooooowly waddle home to safety

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb
so wait TEST is coming to fight y'all?

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Landsknecht posted:

so wait TEST is coming to fight y'all?

Im not entirely sure.

I started off believing it, then quite a few people made it seem like a troll, then I began to believe it again, then i thought to myself: how can any alliance just deploy everybody clear across the galaxy in this day and age?

Do they have NIPS/NAPS with all of their neighbors? Is Vale really that safe/secure?

In short...idk

working mom
Jul 8, 2015

evilweasel posted:

boy, am i glad that proteus stopped bumping and lit a cyno in the wrong spot so i could sloooooooooooooowly waddle home to safety

I'm still not sure how this works/happens, do they catch you as you align to a gate or as you cyno in?

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Orange Red Bull posted:

Im not entirely sure.

I started off believing it, then quite a few people made it seem like a troll, then I began to believe it again, then i thought to myself: how can any alliance just deploy everybody clear across the galaxy in this day and age?

Do they have NIPS/NAPS with all of their neighbors? Is Vale really that safe/secure?

In short...idk

It's only a sin against god, nature, and CCP to be in a coaliation if goons are in that coalition. Otherwise it's entirely legit to blue up everyone near you. And have arranged scrimmages under daddy's watchful supercap eye.

Divine Blob
Mar 13, 2013

evilweasel posted:

had some fun with my jump freighter today



boy, am i glad that proteus stopped bumping and lit a cyno in the wrong spot so i could sloooooooooooooowly waddle home to safety

holy poo poo that was scary how much could you have lost?

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

Orange Red Bull posted:

Do they have NIPS/NAPS with all of their neighbors?

I'm blue da ba dee da ba da (this is as of today according to Eve Skunk and basically accounts for all of their neighbors, as far as I can tell)

Their space is probably safer without them there, because the only real threat to their sov is PL trying to bait a response with entosis

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Sunber posted:

I'm still not sure how this works/happens, do they catch you as you align to a gate or as you cyno in?

I cynoed to a citidel and warped to the station to swap to an npc guy and landed out of docking range and that guy was sitting there in just the right spot to nearly gently caress me. Fortunately the JF was empty but I'd still not have enjoyed losing it.

evilweasel fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Aug 15, 2016

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Morris posted:

I'm blue da ba dee da ba da (this is as of today according to Eve Skunk and basically accounts for all of their neighbors, as far as I can tell)

Their space is probably safer without them there, because the only real threat to their sov is PL trying to bait a response with entosis

So I guess we should hire Elsa and his mercenary Enotises to harrass Test?

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



evilweasel posted:

I cynoed to a citidel and warped to the station to swap to an npc guy and landed out of docking range and that guy was sitting there in just the right spot to nearly gently caress me. Fortunately the JF was empty but I'd still not have enjoyed losing it.

this is what happens when finance tries to play eve

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PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Orange Red Bull posted:

Im not entirely sure.

I started off believing it, then quite a few people made it seem like a troll, then I began to believe it again, then i thought to myself: how can any alliance just deploy everybody clear across the galaxy in this day and age?

Do they have NIPS/NAPS with all of their neighbors? Is Vale really that safe/secure?

In short...idk

I doubt test brings much beyond subs, triage, and dreads. If they bring supers then lol

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