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its just EQ but with a more annoying aoe and without the aftershock's ridic damage right?
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killstealing posted:its just EQ but with a more annoying aoe and without the aftershock's ridic damage right? It's just basically a wide cone, yeah. I think 120 degrees? Used to be really fun with a permastun build.
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Aug 15, 2016 14:12
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From the brief thing I just read EQ would not make good use of faster atk and mult atk, which is what im running so Id have to get a whole new setup. I can run liw maps with this to build up wealth for a bit though.
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Aug 15, 2016 14:31
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ButtWolf posted:From the brief thing I just read EQ would not make good use of faster atk and mult atk, which is what im running so Id have to get a whole new setup. I can run liw maps with this to build up wealth for a bit though. Swap out multistrike with less duration, and faster attack with rapid decay. There, you can now do EQ without changing your sockets. Go to the vendor and get some level 12 gems, the difference won't kill you.
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Aug 15, 2016 14:40
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Vasudus posted:Swap out multistrike with less duration, and faster attack with rapid decay. There, you can now do EQ without changing your sockets. Go to the vendor and get some level 12 gems, the difference won't kill you. He might not even have to swap out FA if he's near a breakpoint.
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Aug 15, 2016 14:47
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Vasudus posted:Swap out multistrike with less duration, and faster attack with rapid decay. There, you can now do EQ without changing your sockets. Go to the vendor and get some level 12 gems, the difference won't kill you. Sweet thanks.
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Aug 15, 2016 15:36
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I just spent a while trying to find a way to gimmick up a gladiator spellcaster using dual cybil's paws to stack up a bunch of benefits to phys/spell damage from blocking. It can kinda work in the sense that you are very durable, but ultimately chasing dual wield block around the passive tree stretches you too thin to cover both offense and defense. Poison blade vortex was the closest to success. 16 life per hit on bv is a huge regen boost, but I had to run blasphemy warlord's mark anyway to account for nearly no mana/regen, so it felt like overkill. Damage was lacking, though I felt nearly invincible blocking 50/50 and restoring ~1400ish life per second between leech and on-hit. edit: I think giving up on cybils and going for a divinarius+shield would work out pretty well though. Easier to grab block for shields and you could get up to shadow more easily for some crit and phys damage.
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Aug 15, 2016 17:29
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YoungSexualNorton posted:I just spent a while trying to find a way to gimmick up a gladiator spellcaster using dual cybil's paws to stack up a bunch of benefits to phys/spell damage from blocking. It can kinda work in the sense that you are very durable, but ultimately chasing dual wield block around the passive tree stretches you too thin to cover both offense and defense. it's funny that every BV gimmick build is so much better with an added Rumi's and Vinktar's in your case you might even run two Rumi's and get flask nodes instead of block nodes Rumi should take a nerf to be honest
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Aug 15, 2016 18:25
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Rumi HAS been nerfed. It used to give 30% phys damage taken as cold. BTW I got killed by the most bullshit boss detonate dead yesterday. I triggered a Catarina mission for kill 9 monsters that cast DD on death. I killed 3 of them in a boss room, made sure to step on normal monster corpses to trigger the DD, and then went to town to sell. Then I come back and walk by the boss to loot and it turns out all 3 DDs hadn't triggered yet and I died.
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Aug 15, 2016 18:41
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So I read over the League and Prophecy articles on the wikia site linked on the other page, but I still don't "get" how you unlock them. I seem to randomly keep getting one that makes my Whetstone and Armor smith thing give 20%, and I've had one or two others but I don't get how I gain access to pay to have these sealed? Also, one of the two characters I'm playing is a Necromancer. I've got summon skeletons, zombies, vaal skeletons, and 2 offering spells. I really like the playstyle, but they're still pretty week. Level 16 or so. I'm up to 4 zombies / 6 skeletons. I find they still need a lot of assistance. I was running some generic elemental Nuke spells, then was experimenting with Contagion / Essence Drain / Wither, but I don't like any of them. The Offering spells have such a short duration that I constantly need to keep casting them, but I also want to cast my other spells but I don have enough cast rate to do it effectively. Either i cast non-summon related stuff and ask myself why have summons at all, or I just rotate between Flesh & Bone offering and hope they get the job done... Any suggestions? My necromancer is a Standard character, if that makes a difference. My Scion on Standard isn't *rich*, but I'm not totally broke either...
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Aug 15, 2016 18:43
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TheRat posted:GS is endgame viable. The list of things that arent red map viable is very small.
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Aug 15, 2016 18:49
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Whatever prophecy Navali gives you is up to RNGesus. The only restriction would be if you're in a prophecy chain, you can only get the next one in that progression (i.e. you're not going to be doing The Unbreathing Queen 1 again until you finish The Unbreathing Queen 5). Navali seals prophecies, should be right next to "Seek Prophecy" You're level 16 or the gems are level 16? Minions are pretty weak in early-game. Someone else can comment on when they really open up, since the last time I played a necro character was...closed beta?
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Aug 15, 2016 18:50
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For the returning players, I highly suggest getting into the guild while learning the ropes again. There are some goons who like to throw extra items around to new players in a pathetic attempt to make themselves look cool(I like to look cool, what can i say).
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Aug 15, 2016 18:52
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Ultima66 posted:Rumi HAS been nerfed. It used to give 30% phys damage taken as cold. Taste of Hate != Rumi's Concoction
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Aug 15, 2016 18:56
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Sab669 posted:So I read over the League and Prophecy articles on the wikia site linked on the other page, but I still don't "get" how you unlock them. Damage support gems and auras are pretty necessary if you want your minions to have any real killing power. Also, most summon builds usually rely on Summon Raging Spirit or Raise Spectre doing the bulk of their damage while Zombies act as tanky meat shields. Its possible to do a build using skeletons but its a lot harder.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:09
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whypick1 posted:Taste of Hate != Rumi's Concoction Oh right, I was thinking of Taste of Hate.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:14
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It's unfortunate that GGG realized it was too much effort to make separate SC/HC league mechanics because they can't make fun murder the gently caress out of you leagues like invasion anymore.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:15
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whypick1 posted:Taste of Hate != Rumi's Concoction He's not wrong, rumi's has been nerfed too 
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Aug 15, 2016 19:23
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BattleHamster posted:Damage support gems and auras are pretty necessary if you want your minions to have any real killing power. Not of level to use any of the Curse gems I have  I'll have to see what I have for Auras, though...
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Aug 15, 2016 19:22
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Firebatgyro posted:It's unfortunate that GGG realized it was too much effort to make separate SC/HC league mechanics because they can't make fun murder the gently caress out of you leagues like invasion anymore. It's not just that it was too much effort. One of the biggest issues was putting 3 months of work into something that 70% of the playerbase would never see, and also making challenges that players felt lovely about because 70% of them would never even consider starting on.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:31
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Sab669 posted:Not of level to use any of the Curse gems I have You don't actually need any curses on a summoner. Some people Curse on Hit + Ball Lightning + Vulnerability or something similar but its not necessary. Here's a pretty good guide that I used to get up and running with a SRS build in prophecy league a couple months ago: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1700016 Try not to pay too much attention to the stats or gear and focus instead on the gem links section. Hatred + Generosity is a staple for practically every good summoner build in addition to running some other auras like Discipline and Haste for you and your minions as well as Arctic Armor and Clarity for personal benefit. For the SRS spell you'll notice that the goal is to take the largest link you have and just load that one spell up with a bunch of support gems to make a super buff minion (see http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Raging_Spirit for a great strategy section where it orders the support gems in terms of usefulness). For a spectre build or zombie build or skeletons build this same logic also applies. One of the nice things about summoners is that you can just scale the skills back while leveling, only using the more effective gems or auras if you don't have the links or mana for them. BattleHamster fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Aug 15, 2016 19:54
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Sab669 posted:So I read over the League and Prophecy articles on the wikia site linked on the other page, but I still don't "get" how you unlock them. There's nothing to "gain access" to, just talk to Navali and click Seal Prophecy.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:08
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Firebatgyro posted:It's unfortunate that GGG realized it was too much effort to make separate SC/HC league mechanics because they can't make fun murder the gently caress out of you leagues like invasion anymore. I don't understand this post considering invasion was a HC league.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:17
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Yes, but the SC league was Ambush, which was completely different from Invasion. Nowadays SC/HC leagues have the same gimmick.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:27
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Nurge posted:I don't understand this post considering invasion was a HC league. Wondering what I should start with for Essence. I'd like to do EA, but apparently that is one of those annoying "level to 50+ and then respec" and I hate doing those for no adequate reason. I'd think about doing a Doomfletch Elementalist, but that largely depends on how accessible Prophecy stuff is in Essence. I guess I could always go with one of the old standby builds and run poisonquake or bladefall trap, but I like being gimmicky even when it's a bad plan. funman what should I do
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Aug 15, 2016 20:38
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The Throne is objectively the best fuckin card
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Aug 15, 2016 21:18
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is it a toilet lol
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Aug 15, 2016 21:20
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"a king's movement is unwavering"
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quote:The Throne can drop in the following map areas: quote:A king's movement is unwavering.
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loving lol
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Aug 15, 2016 21:23
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okay that's loving hilarious
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theshim posted:funman what should I do You should wait until we have more info, like patch notes, and what the tree and ascendancy classes look like before worrying too much about what build you wanna make. A lot of people were planning on playing spark in the leadup to 2.3 and prophecy, then the patch notes hit and plans change. Though I do think Mr. Rat had a good idea with essence drain. I am thinking of doing something essence drain related as mu first dude next league, nothing concrete beyond that. Edit: Also poop is funny.
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funmanguy posted:You should wait until we have more info, like patch notes, and what the tree and ascendancy classes look like before worrying too much about what build you wanna make. A lot of people were planning on playing spark in the leadup to 2.3 and prophecy, then the patch notes hit and plans change. Though I do think Mr. Rat had a good idea with essence drain. I am thinking of doing something essence drain related as mu first dude next league, nothing concrete beyond that.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:25
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my first duder's gonna be ed/cont or bv, but it's very loosely planned out so far
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Aug 15, 2016 21:37
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I'll wait for the new skills to get revealed before I settle on my first character for the league.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:52
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It'd take a serious change to double-dipping to stop my first char being guardian vortex prolif. I'm sick of playing a bow character and so something that can facetank most things is what I want this time.
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Aug 15, 2016 22:39
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One thing i wanna try day one of the new league is seeing how the essences interact with meta crafting mods. If you use an essence on a rare item it basically chaoses the item giving you 1 guaranteed prefix and random everything else. But if you put Prefixes Cannot Be Changed on it first, do the existing ones stay? If they do then there is a lot of potential in crafting.
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I thought all the Essences were beefed up Alch orbs. Do they re-roll rares too?
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whypick1 posted:I thought all the Essences were beefed up Alch orbs. Do they re-roll rares too? They do both.
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it looks like the lower tier ones just upgrade like an alch and the higher tier ones act like an alch+chaos
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