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i blame online RPGs. what did we expect to happen when a boy spends 10 hours a day of his entire childhood as a sexy elf woman? we need to do away with these online games and return to raising our kids on nothing but traditional television.
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If you, as a person who has no real ability to definitely state whether someone is a man, woman, or in between, is telling strangers what toilet they can or can't piss in then you're being a fuckhead. Again, your argument doesn't account for people who are NOT trans but are misidentified as such or people who have some other kind of medical issue or whatever. Or just feminine looking dudes, or masculine looking women, or whatever. The onus is not on the a person to figure out what bathroom you want them to use, the onus is on you to stop obsessing about other people's gender so much and just drink your drink at the bar or whatever. e: you here meaning the general 'you' not you Applewhite specifically
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:35 |
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Aschlafly posted:I feel like "don't be a dick to people when they ask you to use certain pronouns" is pretty easy, but I guess we have different conceptions of what constitutes "easy". Ah poo poo. I don't care. At least moridin interested me. You suck off any dick you like, whether the bearer is male or female.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:34 |
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a dog from hell posted:Lol. Strange territory, folks. How to act?
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:38 |
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Applewhite posted:Well who's infringing on whom here? Why is it "infringing" to want males and females to use the bathrooms 99.9% of the population agrees to use, but it's not infringing to barge into a space explicitly designated to exclude you just because you feel like you belong there and that exclusion isn't fair? Bathroom labeling is a challenge, not an exclusion. They built a time machine and made gender separated bathrooms because they knew it would piss MRAs off and lead to their downfall, ushering in the dawning of the age of Aquarius, unisex bathrooms, and calorie free alcohol.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:38 |
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Aschlafly posted:Do transwomen get tattoos on their foreheads stating that they are, in fact, trans? I don't understand your question. People are attracted to whomever they're attracted to. Well you seem to think that we can create a society where sex doesn't matter. I was curious as to whether it mattered for you. Again, you have this theoretical society that has no bearing on reality. You're not going to be able to convince a straight man that another man is a woman. That's why the stereotype of trans people is that they prey upon very drunk men who can't tell the difference until they're balls deep, but even then, that's hardly a good basis for a relationship, isn't it? Have you seen Priscilla Queen of the Desert? Out of curiosity, what do you think of the main character's arc, that is that he has to accept responsibility as a father, and become a part of his son's life, despite fleeing those responsibilities and hiding behind a stage persona? Applewhite posted:Well who's infringing on whom here? Why is it "infringing" to want males and females to use the bathrooms 99.9% of the population agrees to use, but it's not infringing to barge into a space explicitly designated to exclude you just because you feel like you belong there and that exclusion isn't fair? This, is also a very good point. It seems to me that the accomodations for a very small minority create incredible complications for the vast majority, and I do not see why this is prudent or ideal, particularly if the only goal is to validate the gender identity of strangers.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:37 |
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Aschlafly posted:Man if you're intimidated by muscles on a girl, get in the squat rack and buy some gallons of milk I'm not intimidated, I find it unattractive. I am lightweight but mostly muscular. I am working on it though frankly I have more respect for being a bit fat. It has a wholesomeness to it.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:39 |
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We're all gonna be obsessing over whether or not grown men with inverted penis-vaginas should be able to poo poo in the ladies room at target when some insane mullah decides to nuke us.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:39 |
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8-Bit Scholar posted:This, is also a very good point. It seems to me that the accomodations for a very small minority create incredible complications for the vast majority, and I do not see why this is prudent or ideal, particularly if the only goal is to validate the gender identity of strangers. eh kinda dangerously close to 'it makes whites uncomfortable to eat around blacks so segregation isn't oppressing black people it's just protecting white people's rights to not be uncomfortable.' I mean look, show me some actual harm that results from letting people pee wherever. Getting upset or discomforted isn't really a good enough basis to deny people's identity. Plus there's only discomfort and whatever because it's something new and scary, in 100 years no one will care.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:40 |
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My real life speech is like a pot head stoner surfer and I call everyone "man" and "dude" and I like to passively aggressively call women "dudes" all the time. For ex: the sexy girl cashier at starbucks that makes 30% less than men when she gives me my drinks "Hey thanks man!" "Have a great day dude!" and i chuckle to myself evily.
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Secular Humanist posted:We're all gonna be obsessing over whether or not grown men with inverted penis-vaginas should be able to poo poo in the ladies room at target when some insane mullah decides to nuke us. I don't think you're a humanist at all.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:39 |
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Poetic Justice posted:My real life speech is like a pot head stoner surfer and I call everyone "man" and "dude" and I like to passively aggressively call women "dudes" all the time. For ex: the sexy girl cashier at starbucks that makes 30% less than men when she gives me my drinks "Hey thanks man!" "Have a great day dude!" and i chuckle to myself evily. I call everyone dude because I'm horrible at remembering names. Around these parts it's not even a gendered word anymore, although I do get some out of towners who go 'I'm not a dude!'
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:41 |
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a dog from hell posted:I'm not intimidated, I find it unattractive. I am lightweight but mostly muscular. I am working on it though frankly I have more respect for being a bit fat. It has a wholesomeness to it. lol "wholesomeness" Basically, as far as I can tell, your entire argument amounts to "I don't like things I personally feel are gross" and this only further confirms it. We're all weirded out by some things, but don't make the mistake of thinking "weird" means "wrong". Probably don't worry about crushing on trans women, either. Statistically speaking, you've probably found a trans woman attractive without even realizing she was trans.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:41 |
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Poetic Justice posted:My real life speech is like a pot head stoner surfer and I call everyone "man" and "dude" and I like to passively aggressively call women "dudes" all the time. For ex: the sexy girl cashier at starbucks that makes 30% less than men when she gives me my drinks "Hey thanks man!" "Have a great day dude!" and i chuckle to myself evily. Umm Starbucks pays minimum wage, so everyone is equal. Honestly, are you retarded or just another ignorant white collar?
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:41 |
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a dog from hell posted:I don't think you're a humanist at all. Lol
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:42 |
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Aschlafly posted:lol "wholesomeness" If I found a trans woman attractive I would not mind. Sex is the result of attraction. I find men to be good looking all the time I just don't want to gently caress them. I am liberated, you see.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:43 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5b2hADJXWQ drat its a good day to be a white dude Snatch Duster fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Snatch Duster posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5b2hADJXWQ Not for me. I am very poor and all the gals are feminists so they go with black dudes or other girls.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:44 |
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I just think it's great that women at least can admit they poop in modern society. Can you imagine before women's bathrooms? We have this modern adaptation of a waste bag called a "purse" which is where women used to have to defecate. They wore skirts so they could simply purge wherever they were, while pants wearing men had to poo poo in a private room. We've at least come this far, let's not usher in a women's uprising by letting men cut their dicks off just to get a peek at their snatch.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:45 |
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Moridin920 posted:If you, as a person who has no real ability to definitely state whether someone is a man, woman, or in between, is telling strangers what toilet they can or can't piss in, you're being a fuckhead. Yeah well there's a lot of fuckheads out there. Being a fuckhead isn't illegal, nor should it be. I don't agree with any property owner who decides to enforce gendered bathrooms so I also don't agree with when he enforces it mistakenly. It's a moot point. I do, however, believe that he should be free to enforce such rules on his own property if he wishes to expend the time and effort to do so. I consider the unfair enforcement of those policies on the undeserving to be collateral damage that person is just going to have to deal with. He's under social pressure, too.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:44 |
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a dog from hell posted:Umm Starbucks pays minimum wage, so everyone is equal. Honestly, are you retarded or just another ignorant white collar? Bro, you need to chillax and hangten
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:45 |
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trannys should just pee before leaving the house like i do
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:45 |
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Poetic Justice posted:Bro, you need to chillax and hangten I am chill as gently caress you just don't like my tone lol
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:45 |
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Well you seem to think that we can create a society where sex doesn't matter. I was curious as to whether it mattered for you. quote:Again, you have this theoretical society that has no bearing on reality. You're not going to be able to convince a straight man that another man is a woman. quote:That's why the stereotype of trans people is that they prey upon very drunk men who can't tell the difference until they're balls deep, but even then, that's hardly a good basis for a relationship, isn't it? quote:Have you seen Priscilla Queen of the Desert? Out of curiosity, what do you think of the main character's arc, that is that he has to accept responsibility as a father, and become a part of his son's life, despite fleeing those responsibilities and hiding behind a stage persona? quote:This, is also a very good point. It seems to me that the accomodations for a very small minority create incredible complications for the vast majority, and I do not see why this is prudent or ideal, particularly if the only goal is to validate the gender identity of strangers.
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Snatch Duster posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5b2hADJXWQ quote:Cause the way I’m livin life, is a muthafuckin joy it's p great quote:Which is like, amazing because also that's so loving true it's astounding lmao
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:45 |
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Moridin920 posted:eh kinda dangerously close to 'it makes whites uncomfortable to eat around blacks so segregation isn't oppressing black people it's just protecting white people's rights to not be uncomfortable.' Only if you stretch logic and try constantly to define trans rights as a civil rights issue, and until you are willing to state that you believe gender choice is a natural born human right, I fail to see why it should be defined as such. Nobody is oppressing trans people--but nobody is saying that it's totally normal and fine for a man to wear women's clothing and go about town insisting to be called a woman either. Not validating an identity is not oppression, and you keep making this false equivalency.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:46 |
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also applewhite is right if you would actually understand his point morodoin/evyerone else
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:47 |
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Come on, guys. Let's just relax and shitpost for a bit, we've all been through the wringer.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:48 |
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Applewhite posted:Yeah well there's a lot of fuckheads out there. Being a fuckhead isn't illegal, nor should it be.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:49 |
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Moridin920 posted:it's p great I never wake up and have to cake on ma make up Or straighten hair, I ain't given a drat I'm wearing whatever I wanna in this muthafucka They up in heels And tummy tuckin, theyon't grub except for takin them pills, foreal...
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:50 |
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Nobody is oppressing trans people--but nobody is saying that it's totally normal and fine for a man to wear women's clothing and go about town insisting to be called a woman either. Not validating an identity is not oppression, and you keep making this false equivalency. You keep acting like North Carolina didn't pass a law saying municipalities can't have anti-discrimination laws of their own because trans people are bad which imo has to be some kind of something. And that's just 1 state among a few passing idiot laws. I mean dude how is it NOT oppressive to not validate an identity? You're literally denying that person the right to self determine their sense of self that's like the definition of dehumanizing. You're sitting there going 'no actually I have all the truths here and you're just wrong and mentally ill' and denying them their very identity and saying it isn't oppressive come on man. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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I mean jesus just getting called a lovely nickname you hate in grade school is bad enough I can't imagine everyone around me literally telling me I'm not what I think I am nonstop all day even into adulthood and working to strip me of my identity and that's why I get treated worse than others. That absolutely is loving oppressive. poo poo I get people telling me I'm not white (even though I'm pretty sure I am!) and that's insulting enough. I mean poo poo dude when did SA become the foremost authority on developmental psychology that you guys can sit there making these sweeping statements like you know really anything about anything at the end of the day? Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Aschlafly posted:Why would I have to? Trans women are out there in the world, not hiding in dungeons with goblins and liches. You've probably crushed on one (you might've even slept with one, GASP) without realizing she was trans. Oh the horror! Lol, no, I'm extremely confident I haven't. Moridin920 posted:I mean dude how is it NOT oppressive to not validate an identity? You're literally denying that person the right to self determine their self of self that's like the definition of dehumanizing. I identify as Napoleon Bonaparte. By not validating my identity and giving me command of the French military, you are oppressing me. I want you to read that bolded statement several times and then tell me that you actually have any loving clue what you are trying to say. You're being extremely dense about this; it is not the role of government to validate people's feelings, in most cases, and it certainly isn't its role in this case. Validating trans people is not even tried and true to be a good thing, medical science still hasn't concluded whether validating their feelings of dysphoria even helps treat the malaise. Also NC attempted to pass a law that stated you have to use the bathroom that matches the gender on your birth certificate, something that you can change if you want. That's a very big distinction.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:55 |
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Moridin920 posted:I mean look, show me some actual harm that results from letting people pee wherever. Getting upset or discomforted isn't really a good enough basis to deny people's identity.. Show me some actual harm that results from using the bathroom appropriate to your sex that you know society wants you to use and there'll be no trouble if you just play along. This isn't Rosa Parks sitting at the front of the bus. The whole segregation issue wasn't about comfort as much as it was about power. Making Blacks sit in the back had everything to do with dominating them and reminding them every day that they were socially inferior to whites. Gendered bathrooms have nothing to do with power or domination. They're a self imposed social convention created for the mutual comfort and privacy of both sexes. They weren't created to dominate or diminish transgender persons. Breaking down the gendered bathroom barrier isn't an upward blow for transgender freedom it's just pissing everyone off for the sake of being the center of attention.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:55 |
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Aschlafly posted:Property owners who attempted to maintain racial segregation were under social pressure, too. They were on the wrong side of history. Well maybe property owners who attempt to maintain bathroom separation are on the wrong side of history, too. If that's the case then you don't need to do anything but sit back and watch.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:58 |
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Lol, no, I'm extremely confident I haven't. okay now THAT is a false equivalency lmao self actualizing your identity is not demanding everyone else follow your orders guy. Also, Napoleon Bonaparte was an actual person from history obv you can't be Napoleon. and NC passed a law preventing municipalities from enacting their own anti-discrimination laws you need to take a moment to google things if you want a serious discussion or I'm going to quickly go back into honk honk mode But hey guess what, even if someone did have a mental disorder making them think they were Napoleon, telling them they aren't over and over and over isn't going to do anything.
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Moridin920 posted:You're sitting there going 'no actually I have all the truths here and you're just wrong and mentally ill' and denying them their very identity and saying it isn't oppressive come on man. What falsehood have I stated? Gender dysphoria is a mental illness currently, that's the medical definition. If a man says that he's a woman, how is that somehow less crazy than a man saying he's actually a dog? Out of curiosity, what's your stance on otherkin?
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:57 |
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Moridin920 posted:I mean dude how is it NOT oppressive to not validate an identity? You're literally denying that person the right to self determine their sense of self that's like the definition of dehumanizing. So you're saying it would be oppressive for someone with a mobility impairment to say to someone who identifies as wheelchair-bound, without accompanying medical or psychological impairment, that the latter does not have a mobility impairment disability? Because taken at face value, that is what you are saying.
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 21:59 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVEeZ7jjHyA I mean, do feminist get that dudes have to deal with poo poo too? Lil Dicky does a great job explain this poo poo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocGiulPm3IU poo poo, another video drat this kid is a murderous bitch
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