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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

It's August 15 and Trump is losing by a huge margin to Hillary. Not only must he avoid doing anything outrageously damaging to his campaign and hemorrhaging more supporters but he must also do things to get new supporters on board. Today's Big Deal speech may have avoided the first thing. But did it succeed with the second?

In my opinion: lol no. Trump is running out of time and every day we check off the calendar is one less day for him to have some miraculous bounce back. And since miraculous bounce backs take weeks and not days well, clocks ticking.

non ninja edit

I'm afraid it's far far too late. People already saw the real trump and it's a scary mix of all kinds of wrong things to be in a leader. Kinda like having one of your facebook friends go 9/11 truther, it doesn't matter what he says after, you know he's already accepted crazy poo poo and it's time to clean the list.

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Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

VitalSigns posted:

Patron saint of what? Murdering petitioners? Losing wars?

It's because he was a Christian who was shot by Bolsheviks, thereby making him a symbol of the repression of the church during the Soviet era. That's it.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

fosborb posted:

For 2014, North Carolina is the most gerrymandered state I've found so far, with 3 Representatives that almost certainly would have been Dems.

Anyone find a more blatant state?

The Stanford Law Review article shows that Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, North Carolina, Virginia, Florida and Indiana were biased 1 or more seats in favor of Republicans based on 2012 results. Illinois was biased 1 seat in favor of Democrats, and Texas and Arizona were also outliers in favor of Democrats (but subject to mixed control).

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

VitalSigns posted:

Patron saint of what? Murdering petitioners? Losing wars?

To be fair, he did have positive qualities. He was legitimately devout and a loving Father. If he had been at all capable of evaluating his support he might have been a half decent Autocrat (by those standards). Patron Saint of getting really poo poo advice, maybe?


You ever want to be depressed, look at Russian leadership through history. they've had shockingly few good ones. If you're considering ethics and only heads of state who's on Rushmore? Maybe Peter, Trotsky, Kruschev and Gorby? Ick.

I'd want Kerensky in there.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Internet Webguy posted:

Trump has his next big attack against Crooked Hillary lined up:
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/765367721680900096

What the flying gently caress?! Oh please, please let him mouth off about this, please to god let him flap those orange jowls.


V Rudy forgot is right there on the bottom, though it just said he "forgot"

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Aug 16, 2016

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

SedanChair posted:

I'm not sure how they missed the headline RUDY FORGOT

Gawker beat them to it.

Periodiko
Jan 30, 2005
Uh.

ComradeCosmobot posted:

Jesus Christ, Milo is a loving rear end in a top hat.

He's just Ann Coulter with a far smaller audience and even less sincerity, there's virtually no reason to pay attention to him. He doesn't set any agendas, and he's too idiosyncratically hostile to actually reflect many people's views, he's useless.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

GalacticAcid posted:

There will not be roving bands of Trumpstaffel suppressing non-white voters.

Trump's base of support is geriatric racists, petit-bourgeois suburban dipshits, and anime nazis with Asperger's. None of these groups are credible agents of violent intimidation.

Perhaps not, but he did start up that poo poo on his website where you can sign up to be an "observer" while the email response mentions doing everything possible legally to stop Hillary

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Lol, I missed the part where he introduce Pence as the governor of Ohio

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Brutal, but is it enough to get people to stop revering this man?

ComradeCosmobot posted:

You know who really cares about the gays? That's right!


Jesus Christ, Milo is a loving rear end in a top hat.

Never before have I met a man filled with such obvious self-loathing while still being such a complete malignant narcissist. You'd pity him if he wasn't such a willing tool.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Eifert Posting posted:

To be fair, he did have positive qualities. He was legitimately devout and a loving Father. If he had been at all capable of evaluating his support he might have been a half decent Autocrat (by those standards). Patron Saint of getting really poo poo advice, maybe?


You ever want to be depressed, look at Russian leadership through history. they've had shockingly few good ones. If you're considering ethics and only heads of state who's on Rushmore? Maybe Peter, Trotsky, Kruschev and Gorby? Ick.

I'd want Kerensky in there.
Considering all the times Commie-educated military officers saved the world on the Russian side, vs. these reports, maybe we were the baddies all along.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
Anyone got an article of that attorney who withdrew the case against the police in her city for a shooting, citing that the system is too hosed up to make any headway?

And that other case where the police shot at a fleeing car and then just got put on administrative leave/minorly punished or something?

D O R K Y
Sep 1, 2001

I don't have much to add, but here's some trump ads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXg0UBvzRbM

Bueno Papi
May 10, 2009
Related to Milo chat. Can someone inform me what's the deal with the alt-right insulting people by calling them "cuckolds"?

FishFood
Apr 1, 2012

Now with brine shrimp!

Bueno Papi posted:

Related to Milo chat. Can someone inform me what's the deal with the alt-right insulting people by calling them "cuckolds"?

I'm pretty sure it started as a miscegenation thing, probably inspired by some MRA/PUA bullshit too. A white dude who doesn't give a poo poo about miscegenation is a "beta-c*ck", because we're allowing the sacred flower of white womanhood to be sullied by those vile brutes! Racist, misogynistic, and full to the brim with toxic masculinity!

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Bueno Papi posted:

Related to Milo chat. Can someone inform me what's the deal with the alt-right insulting people by calling them "cuckolds"?

A feeling of masculine inadequacy.

An alt-right white guy thinks everyone shares his deep-seated fear that he's unable to please a woman and every woman he looks at/dates/marries will go off with black men with their massive cocks and limitless sexual energy, and laugh with her ebony lover behind his back at his poor and unsatisfying performance.

Therefore, every white man who isn't a segregationist must want this to happen and fetishizes it. The alt-right is completely incapable of imagining any reason that someone wouldn't hate and fear everyone with swarthy skin other than this.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Bueno Papi posted:

Related to Milo chat. Can someone inform me what's the deal with the alt-right insulting people by calling them "cuckolds"?

The Alt-Right leadership consists entirely of dudes with very specific tastes in pornography.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug
Also by now it's just a shibboleth

Bueno Papi
May 10, 2009
Such a peculiar insult that combines two cherished right wing pastimes: racism and cloistered kinks.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
Their obsession with the word says way more about them projecting than anything else. Some of them used it for Susan Collins recently :wtc:

I wonder what porn subgenre will turn into the new politicized epithet. Straight bait?

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Donkwich posted:

Their obsession with the word says way more about them projecting than anything else. Some of them used it for Susan Collins recently :wtc:

I wonder what porn subgenre will turn into the new politicized epithet. Straight bait?

I dunno if it's obsession as much as it is the old idiots "oooh, new word, must use it a lot to look intelligent" since a lot of them don't even use it right

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Maybe Trump will call Clinton a cuck during a debate. He'd be technically correct!

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

Donkwich posted:

Their obsession with the word says way more about them projecting than anything else. Some of them used it for Susan Collins recently :wtc:

I wonder what porn subgenre will turn into the new politicized epithet. Straight bait?

It's morphed into a generic slur for anyone who's not supporting Trump who's "weak." I doubt you'll get anyone who uses it to admit its racist connotations. I also doubt you'll get many of them who are able to tell you what the word actually means.

Also, a female being cuckolded could just means her husband loves thick black dick. Why you gotta assume they're not making sense? Husbands taking thick black dick makes sense to me.

Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret

Eifert Posting posted:

To be fair, he did have positive qualities. He was legitimately devout and a loving Father. If he had been at all capable of evaluating his support he might have been a half decent Autocrat (by those standards). Patron Saint of getting really poo poo advice, maybe?


You ever want to be depressed, look at Russian leadership through history. they've had shockingly few good ones. If you're considering ethics and only heads of state who's on Rushmore? Maybe Peter, Trotsky, Kruschev and Gorby? Ick.

I'd want Kerensky in there.

Catherine the Great was pretty awesome before she suddenly went nuts.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

My Imaginary GF posted:

Radical islam is the africanized bees of terrorism.
"Africanized" bees are real, I don't know why people started thinking they're not. All commercial honeybees are one species, Apis mellifera. America's are all one sub-species, the Italian honeybee, because importing other subspecies is illegal due to disease and parasite concerns. But an African subspecies that's come up through Mexico is very resistant to diseases like Varroa mite, and has basically become the single honeybee variety through Mexico and parts of the southern U.S. African honeybees are, as rumored, more aggressive, so most of our honeybee production has moved to the northeast and northwest. But since they're also naturally resistant to some parasites, you don't have to use as many chemical pesticides to keep them alive. Any time you buy organic honey, it's almost always from Mexico or maybe the southwestern U.S., and comes from those African honeybees. But overall they're a lot harder to raise, so concerns about them were valid. All the rumors were true: they were aggressive, and they did take over honeybee populations in Mexico and central America.

Ceiling fan
Dec 26, 2003

I really like ceilings.
Dead Man’s Band

DOOP posted:

NYDN owns, shame I usually thought of it as a Post level rag



PA AG Kathleen Kane convicted on perjury charges related to the grand jury leak debacle. Congrats on somehow being worst than that fucker Corbett

Didn't she leak the rampant racism, misogyny, and porn trading in the PA justice system when it would have been otherwise suppressed? Where the PA Chief Justice had to resign? The same Chief Justice that got smacked down by the US Supreme Court for sitting in judgement on a case he originally prosecuted?

Honestly, I don't know. I haven't been able to find any news with real details. But it really seems like she is getting railroaded.

bowser
Apr 7, 2007

Bueno Papi posted:

Related to Milo chat. Can someone inform me what's the deal with the alt-right insulting people by calling them "cuckolds"?

They would have used the word fag in the past but the PC police would call them homophobes for doing that now. So they found a replacement for it that has the added benefit of racist undertones.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

FactsAreUseless posted:

"Africanized" bees are real, I don't know why people started thinking they're not. All commercial honeybees are one species, Apis mellifera. America's are all one sub-species, the Italian honeybee, because importing other subspecies is illegal due to disease and parasite concerns. But an African subspecies that's come up through Mexico is very resistant to diseases like Varroa mite, and has basically become the single honeybee variety through Mexico and parts of the southern U.S. African honeybees are, as rumored, more aggressive, so most of our honeybee production has moved to the northeast and northwest. But since they're also naturally resistant to some parasites, you don't have to use as many chemical pesticides to keep them alive. Any time you buy organic honey, it's almost always from Mexico or maybe the southwestern U.S., and comes from those African honeybees. But overall they're a lot harder to raise, so concerns about them were valid. All the rumors were true: they were aggressive, and they did take over honeybee populations in Mexico and central America.

I think they were referring to how for years you'd hear all the time about how terrifying africanized bees were going to be swarming all over north america but they never really moved far beyond the far south

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Yitzhak Rabin's son on CNN today saying that Trump's rhetoric is what got his father assassinated in Israeli politics.

That's a scarily apt comparison.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Thankfully Trump was just being sarcastic

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Aesop Poprock posted:

I think they were referring to how for years you'd hear all the time about how terrifying africanized bees were going to be swarming all over north america but they never really moved far beyond the far south

Also, they're pretty much the only wild honey bee species here in Arizona and really aren't that horrifically aggressive. I've seen a swarm maybe once at most and never been swarm stung.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Night10194 posted:

Yitzhak Rabin's son on CNN today saying that Trump's rhetoric is what got his father assassinated in Israeli politics.

That's a scarily apt comparison.

quote:

In 1992, Rabin was re-elected as prime minister on a platform embracing the Israeli–Palestinian peace process. He signed several historic agreements with the Palestinian leadership as part of the Oslo Accords. In 1994, Rabin won the Nobel Peace Prize together with long-time political rival Shimon Peres and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. Rabin also signed a peace treaty with Jordan in 1994.

How is this in any way comparable to what Trump is doing???

AMorePerfctGoonion
Aug 11, 2016

by exmarx
I always assumed that "c u c k" gained credence in alt-right circles as a pejorative in response to the NYE sexual assaults in Germany which were committed by Arab and North African refugees.

In this context, "c u c k" is used to denigrate people who support immigration because they are apparently sexually gratified by the idea of swarthy brown foreigners ravaging our pure white virgins, not because they believe offering asylum to desperate families from war-torn countries, often themselves victims of terrorism, is a moral duty. Of course, it goes without saying that the attacks, in which 5 women were raped and many more assaulted, were heinous and morally indefensible, however they were literally a statistical blip in comparison to the vast amount of sexual assaults committed by men against women on a daily basis that the alt_right doesn't seem to give a drat about.

The instinctual fear of the Other raping our women always makes for great propaganda.



Sorry for the derail.

AMorePerfctGoonion fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Aug 16, 2016

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



c.uck is just another way of saying race traitor that hasn't really reached full dogwhistle status just yet, so you get some people sort of freewheeling and using it for other random stuff like (((globalist)))

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

gradenko_2000 posted:

How is this in any way comparable to what Trump is doing???

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/opinion/trumps-ambiguous-wink-wink-to-second-amendment-people.html?_r=0

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Ceiling fan posted:

Didn't she leak the rampant racism, misogyny, and porn trading in the PA justice system when it would have been otherwise suppressed? Where the PA Chief Justice had to resign? The same Chief Justice that got smacked down by the US Supreme Court for sitting in judgement on a case he originally prosecuted?

Honestly, I don't know. I haven't been able to find any news with real details. But it really seems like she is getting railroaded.

Here's an overview.

She definitely hosed up. She played hardball and lost.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Oh, so he's saying Trump's rhetoric is what might get Clinton assassinated, where Clinton is the parallel to Rabin?

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Eifert Posting posted:

To be fair if the US president barfed on me I would brag about that poo poo my whole life.

How many people can say the leader of the free world yucked on their shirt? Sure, JFK probably got a couple but that's an exclusive loving club.

There's someone from my part of Wyoming who was famous for being pulled out of the water by JFK after their PT boat sank.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

gradenko_2000 posted:

How is this in any way comparable to what Trump is doing???

Not Rabin's rhetoric. The rhetoric of his political opponents about how he was selling out the country and should be murdered, yes.

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The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Night10194 posted:

Yitzhak Rabin's son on CNN today saying that Trump's rhetoric is what got his father assassinated in Israeli politics.

That's a scarily apt comparison.

The CNN anchor was pretty useless too. Yuval Rabin was saying some pretty valid and apt things, but the CNN dude kept pressing him to say something compressable into a soundbite rather than listening to what Yuval was actually saying.

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