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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

anyway the reason why the vp takes little active role in the senate is because madison tried that, and washington told him to knock that poo poo off, and thus since...

Madison was never VP; you're thinking of Adams probably.

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Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

Binary Badger posted:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/17/us/politics/trump-chris-christie-casinos.html


I wonder how he got Christie to forgive that $25 million, did he let her borrow Melania or something?

No wonder Christie is his bitch.

BTW, if you enjoy conspiracy theories...

You know the other DC lobbying company Manafort funneled funds to? Mercury LLC?

https://ballotpedia.org/Mercury_Public_Affairs

Worked for Chris Christie's 2016 Presidential Campaign.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

twistedmentat posted:

SO I am legitimately interested how a state like Mississippi gets to the bottom of basically every quality of life measurement and stays there. I can understand it on a city level like Detroit where it was a single industry city and that industry collapsed so it lost the wealth it brought, but outside of Klan related murders I can't think of anything Mississippi is known for in the last 50-60 years.

Is it purely that the electorate keeps electing people who are completely corrupt/incompetent, Pappy O Daniel types that talk a good game, but when in power literally do nothing but enrich their friends and themselves? Are they just so loving conservative that they won't permit the government to do a single thing about education or healthcare because they're afraid of full communism now? Or do they just hate black people so much they'll hurt themselves to prevent them from getting any kind of leg up because they're still living in Mississippi Burning times?

I think it's a combination of Mississippi not having many urban areas and having a lot of rural majority-black regions. It's like how Indiana doesn't have major cities to cancel out rural assholes, only there's another group of rural people the rural assholes want to impoverish.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

twistedmentat posted:

SO I am legitimately interested how a state like Mississippi gets to the bottom of basically every quality of life measurement and stays there. I can understand it on a city level like Detroit where it was a single industry city and that industry collapsed so it lost the wealth it brought, but outside of Klan related murders I can't think of anything Mississippi is known for in the last 50-60 years.

Is it purely that the electorate keeps electing people who are completely corrupt/incompetent, Pappy O Daniel types that talk a good game, but when in power literally do nothing but enrich their friends and themselves? Are they just so loving conservative that they won't permit the government to do a single thing about education or healthcare because they're afraid of full communism now? Or do they just hate black people so much they'll hurt themselves to prevent them from getting any kind of leg up because they're still living in Mississippi Burning times?

it's the blackest state

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

twistedmentat posted:

SO I am legitimately interested how a state like Mississippi gets to the bottom of basically every quality of life measurement and stays there. I can understand it on a city level like Detroit where it was a single industry city and that industry collapsed so it lost the wealth it brought, but outside of Klan related murders I can't think of anything Mississippi is known for in the last 50-60 years.

Is it purely that the electorate keeps electing people who are completely corrupt/incompetent, Pappy O Daniel types that talk a good game, but when in power literally do nothing but enrich their friends and themselves? Are they just so loving conservative that they won't permit the government to do a single thing about education or healthcare because they're afraid of full communism now? Or do they just hate black people so much they'll hurt themselves to prevent them from getting any kind of leg up because they're still living in Mississippi Burning times?

Extremely rural (as I said, no joke their largest population center only has 175,000 people) populace with a high black population.

The worst racism occurs in places where there are large numbers of minorities, but the population is still highly segregated. Racism is at it's worst when those people you hate are highly visible, but you don't interact with them enough to realize that they're decent enough people.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

theflyingorc posted:

Extremely rural (as I said, no joke their largest population center only has 175,000 people) populace with a high black population.

the metro has 500k people, and we usually point toward CSMAs when saying "city has pop"

500k people is still ridiculously low

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Real talk: being a Clinton staffer for this election must be the cushiest gig ever. :10bux: says they get half days on Friday after their catered lunch (with complimentary booze).

Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

Somehow Trump's "ban the Muslims" rhetoric wasn't a problem when he wrote the speech, but now it is. I wonder what changed.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

twistedmentat posted:

SO I am legitimately interested how a state like Mississippi gets to the bottom of basically every quality of life measurement and stays there. I can understand it on a city level like Detroit where it was a single industry city and that industry collapsed so it lost the wealth it brought, but outside of Klan related murders I can't think of anything Mississippi is known for in the last 50-60 years.

Is it purely that the electorate keeps electing people who are completely corrupt/incompetent, Pappy O Daniel types that talk a good game, but when in power literally do nothing but enrich their friends and themselves? Are they just so loving conservative that they won't permit the government to do a single thing about education or healthcare because they're afraid of full communism now? Or do they just hate black people so much they'll hurt themselves to prevent them from getting any kind of leg up because they're still living in Mississippi Burning times?

Mississippi has the highest black population proportion of any state in the country, which means that all the negative effects of segregation on education, health, economic opportunities, etc impacted a higher proportion of the population and are still being felt today.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Fangz posted:

BTW, if you enjoy conspiracy theories...

You know the other DC lobbying company Manafort funneled funds to? Mercury LLC?

https://ballotpedia.org/Mercury_Public_Affairs

Worked for Chris Christie's 2016 Presidential Campaign.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit. It's probably Christie's golden parachute drop zone because there isn't a chance in hell he's gonna get re-elected.

That's how he's gonna get back the $25 million <said sarcastically> by working for Manafort as a consultant, if Trump decides he doesn't want Ralph Kramden lookalike hanging around him.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Ash1138 posted:

Somehow Trump's "ban the Muslims" rhetoric wasn't a problem when he wrote the speech, but now it is. I wonder what changed.

He was winning then.

Jackson Taus
Oct 19, 2011

Phone posted:

Real talk: being a Clinton staffer for this election must be the cushiest gig ever. :10bux: says they get half days on Friday after their catered lunch (with complimentary booze).

Actually, funny story - the Sanders campaign resulted in a major pay hike for low level campaign staffers, because his commitment to a $15 minimum wage meant he paid his staffers $3000 a month and the Clinton campaign had to match (and now a lot of Democratic House/Senate campaigns have to at least be in the ballpark).

Of course, that's the 22-year-olds in the field, not the REMFs in Brooklyn or wherever.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

For the life of me I can't understand why someone who has been on board with The Republican Party all this time would all of a sudden find any of this to be a bridge too far. All Trump has really done is make the implicit explicit. If you've been nodding along all these years, I'm really not seeing what's suddenly objectionable.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

TheScott2K posted:

For the life of me I can't understand why someone who has been on board with The Republican Party all this time would all of a sudden find any of this to be a bridge too far. All Trump has really done is make the implicit explicit. If you've been nodding along all these years, I'm really not seeing what's suddenly objectionable.

The problem isn't that he's a fascist racist white nationalist, it's that he's a fascist racist white nationalist who's losing.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

TheScott2K posted:

For the life of me I can't understand why someone who has been on board with The Republican Party all this time would all of a sudden find any of this to be a bridge too far. All Trump has really done is make the implicit explicit. If you've been nodding along all these years, I'm really not seeing what's suddenly objectionable.

He can't bring up that he supports Trump when out with his pundit friends without being shunned, unlike the previous candidates.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

TheScott2K posted:

For the life of me I can't understand why someone who has been on board with The Republican Party all this time would all of a sudden find any of this to be a bridge too far. All Trump has really done is make the implicit explicit. If you've been nodding along all these years, I'm really not seeing what's suddenly objectionable.

They were able to convince themselves they had plausible deniability before, and now they can't.

smg77
Apr 27, 2007

quote:

Patricia Smith, the mother of a Benghazi survivor

What if Vilerat faked his own death just to get out of being a D&D mod?

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

smg77 posted:

What if Vilerat faked his own death just to get out of being a D&D mod?
Joementum did the same thing, but we found him.

Dirt
May 26, 2003

Best clip you will see today:

https://twitter.com/DylanByers/status/766021779361968128

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

This entire interview is amazing btw. Michael Cohen is now claiming Donald Trump doesn't see color.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011



Comment section:

quote:

Let's see. You wrote the speech for the "Benghazi Mom" this summer. Donald Trump announced his ban on Muslims in, um, 2015. And NOW that's the reason you're not voting for him? Somethin' Aint Right.

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H-H-H-H-H-HORSE RACE!!!

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*

:lol: what a douchebag.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.




He looks like he'd have that face as he pushes his wife into traffic, or drowns kittens.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Pander posted:

He looks like he'd have that face as he pushes his wife into traffic, or drowns kittens.

Or says that spousal rape doesn't exist, at least.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Holy poo poo. All hail the New Aggression and His Blessed Hostility.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Nessus posted:

Mostly the latter one I think. There's a fun comic electioneering tract about George Wallace which is about how George Wallace is such a great guy who's expanding old age pensions, bringing government investment to improve the economy with roads and so on, encouraging industry and expanding education, and oh yeah, he's also sending those NAACP agitators back home where they belong.

Pakled posted:

Mississippi has the highest black population proportion of any state in the country, which means that all the negative effects of segregation on education, health, economic opportunities, etc impacted a higher proportion of the population and are still being felt today.

theflyingorc posted:

Extremely rural (as I said, no joke their largest population center only has 175,000 people) populace with a high black population.

The worst racism occurs in places where there are large numbers of minorities, but the population is still highly segregated. Racism is at it's worst when those people you hate are highly visible, but you don't interact with them enough to realize that they're decent enough people.


Popular Thug Drink posted:

it's the blackest state


HorseRenoir posted:

I think it's a combination of Mississippi not having many urban areas and having a lot of rural majority-black regions. It's like how Indiana doesn't have major cities to cancel out rural assholes, only there's another group of rural people the rural assholes want to impoverish.

This all makes sense. It's really sort of the ugly truth about America is basically the core reason for most of its social problems is racism, not that's a new or surprising. El BJ had a report to explain the reasons for such abject poverty and all its problems was straight up caused by White Racism. Democrats probably have some blame, but I'm sure the lions share belongs to the GOP. I mean, it's not like the base is showing that they are anything other than just mean, racist fuckwads.

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

Binary Badger posted:

Wouldn't surprise me a bit. It's probably Christie's golden parachute drop zone because there isn't a chance in hell he's gonna get re-elected.

That's how he's gonna get back the $25 million <said sarcastically> by working for Manafort as a consultant, if Trump decides he doesn't want Ralph Kramden lookalike hanging around him.

actually, Christie can't run again for governor because of term limits. Election is next year, and my guess is that Jersey flips back to a blue governor. Christie could run again, but being Trump's whipping boy has probably killed any of his popularity and credibility. Thank god, his pointless war against teachers is over

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

twistedmentat posted:

This all makes sense. It's really sort of the ugly truth about America is basically the core reason for most of its social problems is racism, not that's a new or surprising. El BJ had a report to explain the reasons for such abject poverty and all its problems was straight up caused by White Racism. Democrats probably have some blame, but I'm sure the lions share belongs to the GOP. I mean, it's not like the base is showing that they are anything other than just mean, racist fuckwads.

the bigger problem is that mississippi's government made a concious decision a hundred years ago to spurn industralization and urbanism in favor of good old rural agriculturalist values, which being honest was probably rooted directly in racism as well

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

Move over Katrina Pierson, there's a new soulless Trump surrogate in town :clint:

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

This is the best thing to come out of CNN in years.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

This is amazing holy poo poo.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

zoux posted:

He was winning then.

well "not losing as badly" anyway

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Carlosologist posted:

actually, Christie can't run again for governor because of term limits. Election is next year, and my guess is that Jersey flips back to a blue governor. Christie could run again, but being Trump's whipping boy has probably killed any of his popularity and credibility. Thank god, his pointless war against teachers is over

Strange thing about New Jersey is that you can only serve as governor for two terms consecutively - ONCE.

But if he lets someone else be governor for a term, Christie (or anybody) is free to run and serve again (if elected, NFW Christie would win after being Trump's whipping boy), with no limit on terms served.

Wikipedia posted:

The Governor of the State of New Jersey is head of the executive branch of New Jersey's state government. The office of governor is an elected position, for which elected officials serve four-year terms. Governors cannot be elected to more than two consecutive terms, but there is no limit on the total number of terms they may serve.

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007

farraday posted:

This entire interview is amazing btw. Michael Cohen is now claiming Donald Trump doesn't see color.

So that's the Breitbart Management Team strategy: Pretend the past year and a half never actually happened.

What exactly is making them think they can get people to forget everything Trump and the GOP (their platform, their cowtowing to him) have done since this election season started?

Jackson Taus
Oct 19, 2011

TheScott2K posted:

For the life of me I can't understand why someone who has been on board with The Republican Party all this time would all of a sudden find any of this to be a bridge too far. All Trump has really done is make the implicit explicit. If you've been nodding along all these years, I'm really not seeing what's suddenly objectionable.

A lot of people have been lying to themselves. It's actually fairly easy to do, because the descent has been so gradual over the years, and because there's a massive split within the party. Like if you're a "David Brooks Republican" you don't really fraternize with the "Mike Huckabee Republicans" or the "Steve King Republicans" on regular basis, you mostly associate with other "David Brooks Republicans". So while you know that there are racists in the party, it's not something you confront on a day-to-day or even month-to-month basis. And the whole point of dog-whistles is that while they rile up the Steve King Republicans, they're basically inaudible to the David Brooks guys. Plus most folks don't pay too much attention to politics, so they naturally don't hear about it anyways when some Congresscritter or whatever in another state says something crazy.

Plus for a long time, folks have been able to say "I'm a Republican but I'm not one of those Republicans" and it's accepted as an answer. And you can get away with that when it's not your candidate being a racist. But you can't really draw those kind of distinctions when it's your Presidential candidate who is like this.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Nucleic Acids posted:

So that's the Breitbart Management Team strategy: Pretend the past year and a half never actually happened.

What exactly is making them think they can get people to forget everything Trump and the GOP (their platform, their cowtowing to him) have done since this election season started?

Because everyone in the country spontaneously forgetting the last year of Trump is the only chance they have?

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Holy poo poo that clip is goddamn amazing. Bad press for Trump, too, which is also good.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
Trump losing is actually just a huge myth!

This article is funny, but I question it's honesty. I stopped reading at

quote:

Trump’s independent-friendly and likely centrist campaign [...] might even force Clinton to spend time and money defending her position in their mutual home state of New York, with its a whopping twenty-nine Electoral College votes. Bringing New York into contention would be a “yuge” game-changer, as the last Republican to win there was Reagan in 1984.

This is so far past delusional, there has to be a word for it. Trumpane?

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Air is lava! posted:

Trump losing is actually just a huge myth!

This article is funny, but I question it's honesty. I stopped reading at


This is so far past delusional, there has to be a word for it. Trumpane?

"billmitchell"

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