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Rhesus Pieces posted:I'm just glad there are major stories in the news today worth talking about that have absolutely nothing to do with Donald Trump or the general election. bbbbut there's a pew poll where Clinton is only +4 nationwide!!! 
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Boon posted:It's frankly kind of amazing how little we talk about HRC and how little she is out there in the week-to-week news cycle. The Trump campaign is the true historic campaign. that's partially be design. they're letting trump do his thing and explode, while they do small local events in swing states that get tons of less-critical local press coverage.
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Teddybear posted:
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Boon posted:It's frankly kind of amazing how little we talk about HRC and how little she is out there in the week-to-week news cycle. The Trump campaign is the true historic campaign. She has been very successful in doing small retail-level politics. She will ramp up into doing bigger speeches/rallies as the election draws nearer, but for now it's very smart to let the story be "Trump campaign in dumpster fire mode."
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roymorrison posted:hmm yes luckily i have the law to help me decide whether or not releasing someone elses sex tape is a good idea *is a goon* Bless your heart. Legality and morality aren't the same thing. But hey since it's someone you don't like, I guess it's cool to suspend their constitutional rights because a rich person held a decade long grudge.
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Raerlynn posted:Bless your heart. gawker is a person, friend i do think gawker deserved to be punished for turning a profit off posting revenge porn
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Ron Jeremy posted:Looks like this has to do with "terrorist" twitter than the alt-right. There's a difference?
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emdash posted:bbbbut there's a pew poll where Clinton is only +4 nationwide!!! Weren't Pew and Gallop like the go-to polls for a long time? What happened to them exactly?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:that's partially be design. they're letting trump do his thing and explode, while they do small local events in swing states that get tons of less-critical local press coverage. WampaLord posted:She has been very successful in doing small retail-level politics. She will ramp up into doing bigger speeches/rallies as the election draws nearer, but for now it's very smart to let the story be "Trump campaign in dumpster fire mode." Yeah, I got ya, Im more marveling at the fact that the political space is so wide open that she can bassically pull a GE equivalent of woo'ing superdelegates before the fight starts.
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emdash posted:bbbbut there's a pew poll where Clinton is only +4 nationwide!!! Is this the Rasmussen poll? Or a different one?
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Boon posted:It's frankly kind of amazing how little we talk about HRC and how little she is out there in the week-to-week news cycle. The Trump campaign is the true historic campaign. This entire election cycle is a referendum on Trump
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Boon posted:Yeah, I got ya, Im more marveling at the fact that the political space is so wide open that she can bassically pull a GE equivalent of woo'ing superdelegates before the fight starts. yeah, and her campaign has been remarkably well run. which given her last campaign is, in and of itself, astonishing
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iospace posted:Weren't Pew and Gallop like the go-to polls for a long time? What happened to them exactly? Pew's a great poll.
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iospace posted:Weren't Pew and Gallop like the go-to polls for a long time? What happened to them exactly?
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CommieGIR posted:There's a difference? Yes, one is brown and has the whole of the state pointed against it.
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zoux posted:drat what happened in 1980 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1980
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zoux voted for carter so i am pretty sure that rhetorical
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roymorrison posted:lmao if you read gawker To all defending Gawker I assume your fine with the fappening?
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I don't understand how any of the polls tighten like this. Just because Trump didn't poo poo himself in the immediate moment, doesn't mean his infinite volume of previous terrible poo poo is somehow invalid or irrelevant. How does his support ever increase if you look at his cumulative poo poo (or even Clinton's support decrease with Trump as the alternative)? Do people really change their minds on a whim like that?
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Gawker was poo poo and I always hated and avoided it but what Theil did is bad for reasons that extend beyond the current case. Neither side has to be good in order for one outcome to be better than another.
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Crowsbeak posted:To all defending Gawker I assume your fine with the fappening? I am not sure what's so hard to understand here but: "it is possible to be appalled that a billionaire used his money, power and influence to silence a media outlet he had a grudge against; and to also think that media outlet flew a little too close to the tabloid sun for comfort."
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Crowsbeak posted:To all defending Gawker I assume your fine with the fappening? no.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:yeah, and her campaign has been remarkably well run. which given her last campaign is, in and of itself, astonishing She went to Obama and said "hey, uh, got some of that good campaignin' I can borrow?" Crowsbeak posted:To all defending Gawker I assume your fine with the fappening? In both cases the persons who leaked the footage (for the fappening, the weirdo hacker; for Hogan, his friend Bubba) is and should be liable. Media reporting on it are not. Hold your morals at the door when you're coming into the courthouse when it comes to public figures, because the law is a motherfucker.
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The scary part about the Gawker closure and Peter Thiel is the hypocrisy of it all. Yes, Gawker was a lovely media group and deserves to close. But then you look at Peter, an openly gay man who financially backs people like Ted Cruz, Donald Trump and the likes, and spoke at the GOP national convention. For someone who claims to be all about protecting people's private rights, he sure supports a group that does the exact opposite.
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So you don't like that they tortured that serial killer to death? So you're just fine with him murdering people?!
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Crowsbeak posted:To all defending Gawker I assume your fine with the fappening? You're a stupid moron who hasn't read the thread.
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Crows Turn Off posted:I don't understand how any of the polls tighten like this. Just because Trump didn't poo poo himself in the immediate moment, doesn't mean his infinite volume of previous terrible poo poo is somehow invalid or irrelevant. How does his support ever increase if you look at his cumulative poo poo (or even Clinton's support decrease with Trump as the alternative)? Do people really change their minds on a whim like that? Tracking polls are different from other polls. They poll the same group of people repeatedly over a period of time. If you're asking how polls could tighten, that's a different issue that Nate Silver's crew mulled over earlier in the week in their weekly talky thing.
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Teddybear posted:She went to Obama and said "hey, uh, got some of that good campaignin' I can borrow?"
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CommieGIR posted:The scary part about the Gawker closure and Peter Thiel is the hypocrisy of it all. Yes, Gawker was a lovely media group and deserves to close. gay people are allowed to be rear end in a top hat republicans, you know someone doesn't lose birthright over their sexuality just for having political opinions you dislike
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Crows Turn Off posted:I don't understand how any of the polls tighten like this. Just because Trump didn't poo poo himself in the immediate moment, doesn't mean his infinite volume of previous terrible poo poo is somehow invalid or irrelevant. How does his support ever increase if you look at his cumulative poo poo (or even Clinton's support decrease with Trump as the alternative)? Do people really change their minds on a whim like that? Keep in mind that there is some margin of error to each poll, so one poll moving say 1% either way doesn't actually "mean" anything. Taken as a whole he's doing the worst he ever has... right about now. PEC has Clinton's win % the highest ever at 88% today. http://election.princeton.edu/
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Meanwhile in Full Medical Communism Now, Epipen prices have risen from $100 to $600 for a 2-pack since 2009. The drug itself costs only a couple dollars to produce.. The company that makes them says they've changed the price to "better reflect important product features and the value the product provides."
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Popular Thug Drink posted:gay people are allowed to be rear end in a top hat republicans, you know  That isn't what I said or implied, holy poo poo.I was saying that he claims he went after Gawker for openly attacking him, and felt justified, while he backs people that openly want to oppress, even expel gays from public life. He can be gay, but we have every right to call him a hypocrite. Luigi Thirty posted:Meanwhile in Full Medical Communism Now, Epipen prices have risen from $100 to $600 for a 2-pack since 2009. The drug itself costs only a couple dollars to produce.. The company that makes them says they've changed the price to "better reflect important product features and the value the product provides." Yeah, most Ambulance companies and medical groups are actively going to using syringes again. Great job, guys.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Epipen prices have risen from $100 to $600 for a 2-pack since 2009. The drug itself costs only a couple dollars to produce.. The company that makes them says they've changed the price to "better reflect important product features and the value the product provides." 
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Crows Turn Off posted:I don't understand how any of the polls tighten like this. Just because Trump didn't poo poo himself in the immediate moment, doesn't mean his infinite volume of previous terrible poo poo is somehow invalid or irrelevant. How does his support ever increase if you look at his cumulative poo poo (or even Clinton's support decrease with Trump as the alternative)? Do people really change their minds on a whim like that? A +4 poll in a race where the aggregate is 7 or 8 is perfectly normal.
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As if we didn't have enough reality TV stars pretending to be important this election: TV's Dr. Drew Says He's Worried About Hillary's Health and Healthcare
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I am not sure what's so hard to understand here but: "it is possible to be appalled that a billionaire used his money, power and influence to silence a media outlet he had a grudge against; and to also think that media outlet flew a little too close to the tabloid sun for comfort." This. Nuance is a lost art it seems. I'm not defending Gawkers history as a tabloid, but the number of people overlooking out tacitly endorsing how this comeuppance came about is unsettling. How many of you would be okay if tomorrow Trump waged a similar campaign against CNN, NBC, or <insert other media outlet here>? Or if the Kochs did the same thing to a presidential candidate? I wouldn't be so quick to cheer that a billionaire decided to personally ruin an organization out of spite, and succeeded, just because you don't agree with that organization - the same tactic can be used tomorrow to demolish something that actually does some good in the world.
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Goddamn it Dr Drew. Adam Carolla already poisoned my memories of Loveline, don't you join in (yeah I know he did some shady stuff already but Hillary health bullshit??).
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