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pacmania90 posted:A sincerely held religious belief apparently doesn't have to be correct, or even consistent to be considered valid. Indeed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4f5ewIYYuQ
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol also how crazy is a conspiracy theory that the Clinton campaign invented BHO I'm digging the revisionist history.
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Never said it was, and that's why I'm worried about LGBTQ discrimination.
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Shbobdb posted:I'm digging the revisionist history. Clearly since you're the one who constantly spouts it.
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Wikkheiser posted:Looking more into it, they're part of a new attempt to kickstart a neo-Nazi movement with the main networking heft being done by a group called Identity Evropa. It's pretty interesting structurally. Youth-oriented and horizontally distributed with the focus on specific cities. During the fall semester they plan to do coordinated flyering and leaflets on campuses, that sort of thing. Baby steps. They did a big thing at UC Berkeley a few months ago. Here's a long-form article.
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/01/obama-hillary-w.html Lol
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QUACKTASTIC posted:I don't think the Bible really says all that. This isn't really a battle you're going to win: the Bible has plenty to say about gender roles and hierarchies, and it's really not a huge leap if you believe in strict gender hierarchies to believe that changing your gender is a violation of God's plan.
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Sounds like they're just mad that she defeated God Sounds like a great employee to me
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The arzying over today's Trump speech is ridiculous. Even with the assumption that Trump will magically stay on message now that Bannon's on board (he won't), the message itself that he's selling is the reason he's so far down in the polls. Trump is losing by large margins because he has alienated literally every demographic except old white men. Choosing Bannon is essentially a sign of defeat: he's completely given up on trying to get anyone outside his hardcore supporters to vote for him, and he's focusing on finding an out that makes him look like winner even if he loses. Rallying your base works if you have enough of them to win an election (or in his case, a small plurality against a divided field), but he doesn't. It's over.
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It's cute that politics began in 2008 for you
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Trabisnikof posted:It's cute that politics began in 2008 for you Nice deflection. Hillary did some shady poo poo v Obama in 2008. Really dark poo poo. People might even call it . . . Trumpist
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HorseRenoir posted:The arzying over today's Trump speech is ridiculous. Even with the assumption that Trump will magically stay on message now that Bannon's on board (he won't), the message itself that he's selling is the reason he's so far down in the polls. Trump is losing by large margins because he has alienated literally every demographic except old white men. Choosing Bannon is essentially a sign of defeat: he's completely given up on trying to get anyone outside his hardcore supporters to vote for him, and he's focusing on finding an out that makes him look like winner even if he loses. Rallying your base works if you have enough of them to win an election (or in his case, a small plurality against a divided field), but he doesn't. It's over. His handler is a Brietbart stooge for fucks sake. Everyone who doesn't have their head stuck up the right wing fart box knows Brietbart is full of poo poo. If that's the message Trump wants then that's the one he can have.
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Shbobdb posted:Nice deflection. Trump's current thing seems to be carrying stupid grudges over petty poo poo nobody gives a drat about.
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Nobody gives a flying fucj about Clinton 08 except a bunch of Paulite losers who neither party wants Way to virtue signal everybody into knowing they can just ignore your links you don't elaborate on. Maybe next you can post some YouTube videos carefully pasted in so that they don't embed lmao
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Shbobdb posted:Nice deflection. Proven by an Obama ad, got it.
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DemeaninDemon posted:His handler is a Brietbart stooge for fucks sake. Everyone who doesn't have their head stuck up the right wing fart box knows Brietbart is full of poo poo. If that's the message Trump wants then that's the one he can have. For Trump it's not really about a message, it's about having a yes-man in charge that will let Trump be Trump instead of trying to groom him for a general electorate. And look where Trump being Trump has gotten him on the national stage.
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ErIog posted:Never said it was, and that's why I'm worried about LGBTQ discrimination. That's fair, it was really more of a "the slog might be really loving long"
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Shbobdb posted:Nice deflection. No. I mean, if you're and idiot, then yeah. If you're not, maybe partly. But no. Boon fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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I'm sure Obama endorsed Hillary for president because he likes Trumpism that must be it.
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Since Breitbart is in charge of Trump, will we see a shocking undercover film soon that's been edited to gently caress and comes to illsupported conclusions? I'm really anxious to see BreitFeed's We Walked into a Liberal's Backyard And You Won't Guess What Happened Next videoblog post Dimebags Brain posted:have you heard that loving abominable kick drum sound on the new track? Can't wait to illegally pirate and burn copies of that album because I'm still salty about Napster.
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FilthyImp posted:Is it an evolution of Saint Anger's Drumming on Trash Cans ethos? I've always thought they were drumming on kickballs they stole from a school.
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A bunch of doughy fatbodies, truly the master race.
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol also how crazy is a conspiracy theory that the Clinton campaign invented BHO Butane Hash Oil? Now I'm definitely all in on Clinton
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Unkempt posted:Back row, 4th from the left... that's Garrison, isn't it? Why on earth would they pick a definitely not-a-nazi person like that? Its a wweird meme /pol/ does to hold Ben Garrison as there own voice and photoshop his cartoons to be a billion times more racist then they already are
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HorseRenoir posted:The arzying over today's Trump speech is ridiculous. Even with the assumption that Trump will magically stay on message now that Bannon's on board (he won't), the message itself that he's selling is the reason he's so far down in the polls. Trump is losing by large margins because he has alienated literally every demographic except old white men. Choosing Bannon is essentially a sign of defeat: he's completely given up on trying to get anyone outside his hardcore supporters to vote for him, and he's focusing on finding an out that makes him look like winner even if he loses. Rallying your base works if you have enough of them to win an election (or in his case, a small plurality against a divided field), but he doesn't. It's over. Well, the Trump headlines this morning are all variations of "Trump regrets comments" and I'm going to go out on a limb to say this wasn't the result they were looking for.
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A bit of an offshoot of the whole Ukrainian Party of Regions ledgers that had Manafort in them: allegedly they also paid Larry King $225,000 to interview then-PM Azarov. https://twitter.com/MaximEristavi/status/766555434966659072
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OddObserver posted:A bit of an offshoot of the whole Ukrainian Party of Regions ledgers that had Manafort in them: allegedly they also paid Larry King $225,000 to interview then-PM Azarov. That kids loving shirt.
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OddObserver posted:A bit of an offshoot of the whole Ukrainian Party of Regions ledgers that had Manafort in them: allegedly they also paid Larry King $225,000 to interview then-PM Azarov. I wonder if he paid tax on that. I'm presuming Manafort didn't pay tax on any of it.
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Iron Lung posted:Someone tweet this thread at the guy, he's arzying real hard! Few pages back, but this is what really worries me about Trump. He's not getting anywhere near the White House, but the wave of delusional Nazi-esque crowds that will be dumbfounded and angered after he fails is the real danger. The damage he's already done will take years to undo. Unkempt posted:Back row, 4th from the left... that's Garrison, isn't it? Why on earth would they pick a definitely not-a-nazi person like that? He's a massive racist, defender of MRA assholes, worshiper of Lord Trump-sama, and all around hyper-right wing cheerleader. He isn't quite up to their level, but he's still horrible enough to earn their respect.
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pacmania90 posted:A sincerely held religious belief apparently doesn't have to be correct, or even consistent to be considered valid. That was what was so maddening about the Hobby Lobby case. Their belief (hormonal BC works by causing abortions) was factually incorrect in a provable way.
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exploding mummy posted:The trend for pro wrestling is onsessed older people with a ton of disposable income. They actually had an article about the WWE making an anti-immigrant character the villain for a season and promoting Latino wrestlers because apparently, 40% of the WWE audience is Latino.
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Shifty Pony posted:That was what was so maddening about the Hobby Lobby case. Their belief (hormonal BC works by causing abortions) was factually incorrect in a provable way. I thought the Hobby Lobby case was essentially about morning after type pills that would prevent an already fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus? Is your objection that abortions are about embryos rather than zygotes? (Honest question, I haven't really thought about this too much so far.)
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Shifty Pony posted:That was what was so maddening about the Hobby Lobby case. Their belief (hormonal BC works by causing abortions) was factually incorrect in a provable way. Yeah that was another case of pushing loathsome conservative values (punishing women for having the audacity to want sexual agency) and then working backwards into figuring out how to implement it legally and force it on people. The case against Hobby Lobby had to admit that yes there was an incredibly small chance that a fertilized egg could not attach to the uterine wall (even though that's not the purpose of the medicine) because their argument was based on reality and fact. So they took that and misrepresented the argument that since there was this tiny chance that their Sincerely Held Religious Beliefs were being violated by having to pay for women's "abortion pills." Of course they WEREN'T paying for them, the health plans were just allowing women to buy them at the bargained rate you get with insurance instead of the absurd at cost rate drug companies charge. Additionally the real hypocrisy is that they don't give a shot about making sure their employees never smoke,drink, or take Ibuprofen because there's the tiny change they can cause miscarriages and maybe a woman got pregnant and doesn't realize it yet? Anytime you hear someone objecting to something based on Sincerely Held Religious Beliefs it's almost always just assholes trying to push their social views on other people regarding things that doesn't affect them or is straight up bigotry. "Sincerely Held Religious Beliefs" is just a dog whistle for "conservative white culture" and has generally nothing to do with any religious teachings except when you scour the bible and find one out of context passage you can use. Remember racism and integration were the things that pissed off Evangelicals and got this sort of "you can't force me to race mix it's against the Bible" into politics. botany posted:I thought the Hobby Lobby case was essentially about morning after type pills that would prevent an already fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus? Is your objection that abortions are about embryos rather than zygotes? (Honest question, I haven't really thought about this too much so far.) That's not how it works!! The amount of misinformation the religious right has done concerning the morning after pill is so frustrating. The designed effect of the morning after pill is to stop fertilization of the egg just like the regular birth control pill. It's literally an extra large does of regular birth control. The reason it's called the morning after pill is because you need to take it very soon after sex in order for it to be effective. Unlike with popular media, when you have sex the sperm doesn't shoot into the egg immediately it hangs out in the body for some time and eventually fertilizes the egg. The morning after pill stops the egg from dropping and so the sperm doesn't do anything. If the woman is currently ovulation the morning after pill doesn't work. Yes there's a tiny chance it stops a federalized egg from attaching causing "an abortion" if you want to be incredibly, incredibly generous with that term but it's not the effect and the chance of that is small. Many other drugs can also cause this but the religious right doesn't give a poo poo about those because they aren't giving women sex "for free." Not trying to be rude since I'm sure you are asking this honestly but this frustrates me a huge deal because allowing these religious bigots their Sincerely Held Religious Beliefs results in mistruths being propagated to help their terrible ideals and hurt women. Listen to old men talk about how birth control should be "an aspirin between the legs" and you'll understand why they give a poo poo about any of this. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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Radish posted:Yeah that was another case of pushing loathsome conservative values (punishing women for having the audacity to want sexual agency) and then working backwards into figuring out how to implement it legally and force it on people. The case against Hobby Lobby had to admit that yes there was an incredibly small chance that a fertilized egg could not attach to the uterine wall because their argument was based on reality and fact. So they took that and misrepresented the argument that since there was this tiny chance that their Sincerely Held Religious Beliefs were being violated by having to pay for women's "abortion pills." Of course they WEREN'T paying for them, the health plans were just allowing women to buy them at the bargained rate you get with insurance instead of the absurd at cost rate drug companies charge. Additionally the real hypocrisy is that they don't give a shot about making sure their employees never smoke,drink, or take Ibuprofen because there's the tiny change they can cause miscarriages and maybe a woman got pregnant and doesn't realize it yet? Hobby Lobby wasn't decided based on either of the cases presented. All justices involved knew going in exactly how they were going to vote, and if necessary worked backwards from there.
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fool_of_sound posted:Hobby Lobby wasn't decided based on either of the cases presented. All justices involved knew going in exactly how they were going to vote, and if necessary worked backwards from there. Yeah exactly but we have to pretend that they rule on these sorts of cases based on reason and Constitutional law (also Scalia's Ouiji board).
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Radish posted:Yeah exactly but we have to pretend that they rule on these sorts of cases based on reason and Constitutional law (also Scalia's Ouiji board). A gay ghost told Scalia to gently caress gay people and he took it the entirely wrong way.
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Radish posted:Yes there's a tiny chance it stops a federalized egg from attaching causing "an abortion" if you want to be incredibly, incredibly generous with that term but it's not the effect and the chance of that is small. So eggs are like the reproductive equivalent to the National Guard?
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