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Hat Thoughts posted:U got a real optimistic world view if that's the worst in human life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole
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I don't see the problem. I don't know who Zendaya is, but couldn't she just dye her hair red if it's that important? Seems like a no brainer to me.
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Aug 19, 2016 17:14
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Detective No. 27 posted:I don't see the problem. I don't know who Zendaya is, but couldn't she just dye her hair red if it's that important? Seems like a no brainer to me. Its because the red hair thing isn't actually the problem. Its a way for people to complain about a non-white actress being cast without having to actually say it. Kirstin Dunst isn't a redhead either but nobody had any problem with her being cast because anyone can have red hair in a movie. There's a whole wig industry build around it.
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Aug 19, 2016 17:19
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I'm curious how much froth could be roused from angry nerd boys if Riri Williams steps up as the new Iron Man when RDJ says enough.
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Aug 19, 2016 17:31
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Noam Chomsky posted:When I saw Civil War in the theater, two preteens sitting behind me were aghast and appalled that a young petite nerdy dude was playing Peter Parker
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Aug 19, 2016 17:31
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Excelsiortothemax posted:I'm curious how much froth could be roused from angry nerd boys if Riri Williams steps up as the new Iron Man when RDJ says enough. They won't because she's comic book accurate! It's about canon in comic movies not race okay!
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Aug 19, 2016 17:34
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greatn posted:Super feminist? Wasn't she just a shallow party girl who agreed to date Parker on a lark, and in fact put up with lots of poo poo when she didn't know he was Spider-man? She was a second wave feminist for a good chunk of her early days, just, well, a second wave feminist as written by a bunch of dudes in the 70s. She was never all that shallow either, just had a very defiant gently caress You Got Mine kind of personality. This would of course come and go as things went on. She never really was just a pallet swap for Gwen, at least up to after Gwen's death.
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Aug 19, 2016 17:40
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Noam Chomsky posted:When I saw Civil War in the theater, two preteens sitting behind me were aghast and appalled that a young petite nerdy dude was playing Peter Parker Who do they think Peter Parker is?
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Aug 19, 2016 18:09
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I thought this may perhaps go here http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/19/batmans-original-1960s-cast-are-reuniting-for-a-new-batman-movie-6079335/ 'You might be familiar with the likes of Ben Affleck and Christian Bale as Batman – but for people of a certain age there was only one Caped Crusader, and that was Adam West. And now the veteran actor is returning to the role that made him famous in the 1960s Batman TV series – and he’s reuniting with his former co-stars Burt Ward and Julie Newmar in the process. Yup, the trio are returning to Gotham – in voice terms, at least – for new cartoon movie Batman: Return Of The Caped Crusaders. Can I get pic from new Batman cartoon pls Credit: DC Entertainment They’re looking a little different to their original TV incarnations (Picture: DC Entertainment) The film sees them reprising the voices of Batman, Robin and Catwoman – while the film’s trailer, released exclusively by Entertainment Weekly, suggests that the likes of the Joker and the Riddler will also be putting in appearances. It also hints that our heroic pair may have made a daring escape from a fiery fate – but we can’t tell you much more than that. We do know that Adam West’s quite excited about it all though: And we’re guessing it might look a little different from the 1966-68 TV series, where sights like this were all too familiar: It’s all a far cry from the Caped Crusader’s more recent adventures in Batman vs Superman: Dawn Of Justice: Batman: Return Of The Caped Crusaders is due for DVD release in the US on October 11 and Blu-Ray on November 1 – although there’s no word yet on when we’ll see it here.'
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Aug 19, 2016 18:21
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Detective No. 27 posted:I don't see the problem. I don't know who Zendaya is, but couldn't she just dye her hair red if it's that important? Seems like a no brainer to me. That wouldn't work because, you see, the people who complain are color blind.
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Aug 19, 2016 18:22
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If she does dye her hair, I'll have to keep an eye out for John Byrne calling her a hooker.
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Aug 19, 2016 18:25
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Here is the trailer thing for Return of the Caped Crusaders https://youtu.be/3jBbWoAtaWc No idea why there isn't an official WB link.
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Aug 19, 2016 18:28
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Who do they think Peter Parker is? I had a friend who despised the Andrew Garfield take on Spider-Man because he was too much of a normal, relatable teenager. According to him, the essence of Peter Parker is that he's a peerless child genius who can accomplish feats of engineering unlike anybody else. Anything about Peter being a New York wiseguy, or an awkward dorky teen who gets a major confidence boost along with his powers... that was all distraction from Peter's inherent nature as a Randian super-inventor Weird thoughts
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Aug 19, 2016 18:42
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Kurzon posted:Just name her Makayla Jane to please the fans. Let them think Mary Jane is in the setting somewhere, studying in Vancouver or something.
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Aug 19, 2016 18:42
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Jenny Angel posted:I had a friend who despised the Andrew Garfield take on Spider-Man because he was too much of a normal, relatable teenager. According to him, the essence of Peter Parker is that he's a peerless child genius who can accomplish feats of engineering unlike anybody else. Anything about Peter being a New York wiseguy, or an awkward dorky teen who gets a major confidence boost along with his powers... that was all distraction from Peter's inherent nature as a Randian super-inventor  hwat the gently caress, did he hate Civil War Peter Parker too?
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Jenny Angel posted:I had a friend who despised the Andrew Garfield take on Spider-Man because he was too much of a normal, relatable teenager. According to him, the essence of Peter Parker is that he's a peerless child genius who can accomplish feats of engineering unlike anybody else. Anything about Peter being a New York wiseguy, or an awkward dorky teen who gets a major confidence boost along with his powers... that was all distraction from Peter's inherent nature as a Randian super-inventor I know a guy who is exactly the same, had a same talking point and everything. Wacky. I eventually softened him up to the point of agreeing that maybe it was ok if Peter's spider-instincts supplemented his hyper-intelligence and helped him invent a dissolving super-polymer with about a zillion industrial applications. But yeah, just like your friend this guy INSISTS that the core of Peter Parker is he's basically high-school Reed Richards, only nerdier. What's bizarre to me is that this characterization of Peter - as a friendless smart nerd - went out the window really early in the character's life.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:What's bizarre to me is that this characterization of Peter - as a friendless smart nerd - went out the window really early in the character's life. Even then, he was just a particularly smart kid who probably had a future in some sort of STEM career, not a super-genius on the level or Reed Richards right?
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Aug 19, 2016 19:07
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Basebf555 posted:Even then, he was just a particularly smart kid who probably had a future in some sort of STEM career, not a super-genius on the level or Reed Richards right? Peter Parker inventing web shooters is perfectly in-line with what "really smart people" can do in Comic Books of the 60s. Like, Doc Ock managed to create 4 mind-controlled flexible metal arms that contain no apparent power source and have a range of motion that even modern-day mechanical engineers are jealous of. In 1963.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:16
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Kurzon posted:Just name her Makayla Jane to please the fans. Let them think Mary Jane is in the setting somewhere, studying in Vancouver or something. The hilarious thing about this is that outside of Spider-Man I am aware of several more fictional and real black women named Mary Jane: http://www.bet.com/shows/being-mary-jane.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jane_Patterson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHPnUPFcxdE
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I haven't talked to the guy in years because he got into some really weird poo poo in college and started talking about the power of perception and positivity and how you can choose not to be raped
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Aug 19, 2016 19:21
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Jenny Angel posted:I haven't talked to the guy in years because he got into some really weird poo poo in college and started talking about the power of perception and positivity and how you can choose not to be raped Holy poo poo, you didn't go to Grinnell did you?
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Aug 19, 2016 19:22
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Like, Doc Ock managed to create 4 mind-controlled flexible metal arms that contain no apparent power source and have a range of motion that even modern-day mechanical engineers are jealous of. In 1963. I love the casualness – and I mean this sincerely – with which Doc Ock presents the brain-machine interface and mechanical arms in Spider-Man 2, like they're a reasonably clever invention, but not that big a deal.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:23
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Jenny Angel posted:I haven't talked to the guy in years because he got into some really weird poo poo in college and started talking about the power of perception and positivity and how you can choose not to be raped Can't imagine how you lost track of this treat of a human being As far as PETER PARKER SUPER GENIUS goes Yeah no, kid was just the regular kind of really smart nerd. Originally he didn't even invent the web fluid, it was just liquid cement because gently caress logic or reason. Thinking on it, I'm not sure when they actually changed that.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Holy poo poo, you didn't go to Grinnell did you? Hate to break it to you man, but there's more than one guy who starts thinking like that in college Didn't go to Grinnell nah
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Aug 19, 2016 19:24
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Sir Kodiak posted:I love the casualness – and I mean this sincerely – with which Doc Ock presents the brain-machine interface and mechanical arms in Spider-Man 2, like they're a reasonably clever invention, but not that big a deal. Aren't the Octo-Arms actually sentient? It's been a while, but I think he literally creates an actual artificial intelligence with the capability of forethought, emotions, and planning and it is so powerful he has to create an inhibitor chip. Once the inhibitor chip breaks the machine AI literally starts to control his brain. The engineering is so advanced that the arms have an unending power source and are able to react to split second timing decisions. All of this is presented as a minor thing in support of his master plan to... make a smaller nuclear reactor!
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Aug 19, 2016 19:33
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Aren't the Octo-Arms actually sentient? It's been a while, but I think he literally creates an actual artificial intelligence with the capability of forethought, emotions, and planning and it is so powerful he has to create an inhibitor chip. Once the inhibitor chip breaks the machine AI literally starts to control his brain. The engineering is so advanced that the arms have an unending power source and are able to react to split second timing decisions. Hah, yeah. And it's technically a fusion reactor, which would be pretty cool if it didn't require a fuel that was apparently massively rarer and more expensive than Uranium.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:35
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Noam Chomsky posted:When I saw Civil War in the theater, two preteens sitting behind me were aghast and appalled that a young petite nerdy dude was playing Peter Parker Maybe it hits too close to home for a real-life social competitor at their school or something.
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It's pretty funny that his investors look at what he did and decide that: - Creating an artificial intelligence with true capability to learn, plan, and feel emotions. - Revolutionizing engineering by creating a machine that is lightweight enough to be worn on his back, but strong enough to lift a train and contain a fusion reaction, while also maneuverable and tactile enough to manipulate objects like an additional set of hands. - Literally inventing a successful method of mind control. - Developing a neural network that allows human thoughts to control machinery. - Creating a source of energy to power all of these devices that does not need to be replaced or recharged for weeks and suffers no reduction in output. is not worth funding because the fusion reactor he developed is only partially stable.
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Aug 19, 2016 19:45
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Scratch all that - they decided a fusion reactor that needed some work was not worth funding.
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Oh we have an almost functioning fusion reactor? Ah throw it away
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Aug 19, 2016 20:00
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It's a comicbook standard. Oh you've invented a ray that uses almost no power and is completely portable and will instantly freeze any object of almost any size? Are you going to patent that and make a billion dollars in the transportation and refrigeration industries? No that's way too much effort so you're going to wear a silly costume and attempt to rob a jewellery store in an area that's patrolled by an incredibly violent costumed vigilante, awesome plan.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It's a comicbook standard. Oh you've invented a ray that uses almost no power and is completely portable and will instantly freeze any object of almost any size? Are you going to patent that and make a billion dollars in the transportation and refrigeration industries? No that's way too much effort so you're going to wear a silly costume and attempt to rob a jewellery store in an area that's patrolled by an incredibly violent costumed vigilante, awesome plan. These are not the same things though. And it doesn't make the movie bad, just funny
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Aug 19, 2016 20:08
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Yeah but in comic book movie worlds you have poo poo like Tony Stark building a pocket unlimited energy source in a cave from spare parts not to mention all the world ending weapons. Nobody is settling for some half-finished second rate fusion reactor. They're looking for the next portal to the negative zone or whatever.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:19
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Alfred Molina's so good in that role.
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Aug 19, 2016 20:19
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Guy A. Person posted:Yeah but in comic book movie worlds you have poo poo like Tony Stark building a pocket unlimited energy source in a cave from spare parts not to mention all the world ending weapons. Nobody is settling for some half-finished second rate fusion reactor. They're looking for the next portal to the negative zone or whatever. Excuse me sir, if you follow up with Iron Man 2 you'll see that Tony Stark did not invent an unlimited energy device in a cave from spare parts. The ARC reactor began to fail and he had to synthesize a new element to create an unlimited energy device in his basement. Please be realistic.
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Burkion posted:These are not the same things though. Yeah that's true, I guess maybe it's an inversion of that. "I invented all this stuff and industry isn't interested in it? gently caress it I'm gonna kidnap old ladies and throw cars through cafes."
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Just to bring it back, the comic book people have whatever "smarts" they need to create the technology that enables their thematic association, so Ock makes Octopus Arms and the Vulture makes fully functioning bird wings(!!!!) and Iceboy the Icey Terror makes a cold gun. So yeah, Peter Parker would be a Randian Super Genius in our world but in his he's just a very bright STEM dude.
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Toady posted:Note the contradiction: a vigilante fighting for the law. The resolution to the cognitive dissonance is to believe that Batman, a wealthy criminal obsessed with a childhood trauma less severe than that carried by the average poor person in Gotham, is above the people he assaults because he stops short of killing them. Yet he'll never succeed in "working against the corruption" because it feels good to terrify thugs and break their limbs, both for Batman and for fans enjoying a certain kind of power fantasy. Batman needs his world to exist, and he'll never solve Gotham's problems because that would end the fun. This is utter nonsense. Every superhero is a vigilante fighting for the law, Batman is not unique in that regard. Not to mention the no-killing thing applied across the entire DC Universe, not just Batman. Season 1 of Arrow made little sense when Oliver Queen was killing folks so they ended up backstepping and making him stop killing dudes. SolidSnakesBandana fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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Law and "an ethical code and goal, of some sort" aren't the same thing. For that matter even law and the state aren't quite the same thing, unless you're incredibly cynical. Batman works with the police but generally it's in an extra-legal manner. And when it isn't extra-legal, that's probably an indictment of the law, because beating people up to stop crimes is barbaric.
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