Heavy neutrino posted:

First they came for the dangerous jackasses who normalize mockery, bullying and condescension towards disabled people.

PT6A posted:

I read the article and I still feel the same way. It may have been a correct ruling according to Quebec law, I'm not disputing that; what I'm saying is that the Quebec law is, then, a violation of fundamental human rights (not those rights guaranteed by law, but rather the rights that all human beings should have regardless of the law). You could argue that the law against insulting the monarchy in Thailand is not a violation of human rights because the right to criticize the monarchy is not a right provided by law in Thailand, but it would be foolish to say it's not a violation of people's inherent right to freely express themselves.

I don't want the government ruling on whether any speech is necessary or "contributes to social and political decision making, or is an expression of self-fulfillment" in order to have protection for it, thank you very much.

Like I said, I think the comedian is a sack of poo poo for what he said, and I don't approve of it at all, but I still believe that his right to say what he said must be protected. If no more comedy clubs want to book him because he's a piece of poo poo, that's okay; what's not okay is the government fining him five figures for making a joke in extremely poor taste.

P-Value Hack posted:

My point isn't that "It's the law, therefore it's moral", my point is that you retards haven't even bothered to read the logical conclusions and reasoning that the courts took in their analysis, and instead close your ears and yell "NUH UH FREEDOM OF SPEECH UNALIENABLE NUH UH".

Read the case and analysis, debate those conclusions and moral reasonings instead of just reading the title.

P-Value Hack posted:

My point isn't that "It's the law, therefore it's moral", my point is that you retards haven't even bothered to read the logical conclusions and reasoning that the courts took in their analysis, and instead close your ears and yell "NUH UH FREEDOM OF SPEECH UNALIENABLE NUH UH".

Read the case and analysis, debate those conclusions and moral reasonings instead of just reading the title.

Jordan7hm posted:

Even the beer store is nicer

Jordan7hm posted:

I'm in Reykjavik for the marathon this weekend and after going to buy beer in a store, I'm not sure I'm allowed to complain about Ontario any more.

There was a line and a bouncer for the ability to buy incredibly overpriced (like everything Reykjavik) beer in a sterile workmanlike environment. Even the beer store is nicer, to say nothing of the LCBO.

Brandon Proust posted:

Helsing posted:

This is switching gears back to something the thread was gnawing on a day ago but I think this article is a reasonably good summation of why the 'PM Selfie' label has stuck. Because anyone not enamored with Trudeau has at least intuitively picked up on the fact that his media strategy is probably the only genuinely innovative thing about our new Prime Minister.

I tend to think that Trudeau is better than Harper if only because he isn't on an intentional mission to sabotage the federal government, and because he's somewhat better on climate change, but politically speaking him and Harper are part of the same centrist blob which has absorbed all three major parties. But then I find myself reconsidering that because with Harper his political future always balanced on a knife's edge and the moment he got his majority and started implementing a more muscular conservative agenda he was already on track to lose. Now Trudeau is pursuing many similar policies (minus the war on the federal bureaucracy or the utter refusal to make token gestures toward environmentalists or natives or whomever else) but getting massive and enthusiastic support for them.

This is all familiar ground at this point and I don't think it's a revelation to anyone but perhaps it's helpful to state the argument as simply as possible. While Trudeau may not be as bad as Harper in every particular, there are some areas where he's actually worse, for instance:

Femtosecond posted:

Prohibition in Iceland lasted in some forms until 1989 and alcohol abstinence remains high. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31622038

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

Just so I'm clear, thread consensus is that language police in Quebec are bad but thought police in Quebec are good?

MonsieurChoc posted:

The language police isn't even real. It's pure propaganda bullshit.

MonsieurChoc posted:

The language police isn't even real. It's pure propaganda bullshit.

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

Uhh no I'm pretty sure the Office de la langue francaise is still in business.

Fwiw I actually support their mission to protect french culture in Quebec. *ducks tomatoes thrown from every other province*

Jordan7hm posted:

Their mission is fine and good. The way they've tried to enforce it has at times been anything but.

Booourns posted:

Wow who would have thought that the guy who loves to call women cunts would be supportive of an rear end in a top hat like mike ward

PT6A posted:

Two things wrong with this: I don't "love to call women cunts," I call people in general cunts, if I think they deserve it. I don't see it as any more gendered than calling someone a prick. Secondly, I don't support what Mike Ward said and I've been clear about this from the beginning. I think it's a horrible unfunny thing to say, and I think he's a piece of crap (in fact, to wit, I believe I called him a oval office in my first post on the subject). But I do believe he has the right to say any horrible thing he likes without the government fining him for it.

CLAM DOWN posted:

You're a prick.

terrorist ambulance posted:

What you need to understand about me, is... *talking continues into a drone, and then thereafter gradually into turns into slurping sounds as PT6A licks his own nuts, dick and rear end in a top hat which is really the sole motivation for every boring narcissistic overly detailed post he makes about his stupid pointless existence*

terrorist ambulance posted:

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PT6A posted:

Hopefully by Gord Downie's sacrifice, we can buy Rush another decade of health and touring.

zapplez posted:

Serious post, yall better be watching the hip concert tonight on cbc

Playstation 4 posted:

The Climatoligists' Curse has already taken hold, the life force and pep will surely be granted to Nickelback.

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

I have difficulty imagining things less appealing to watch.