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Koalas March posted:This is very true. I've had the "Fast Girl" stereotype applied to me, but I've also gotten "You're not like other black girls.. you know they're loud". Also lots of comments about having "Good hair" Nah, if there's one thing that is universal among black people in America, its these stereotypes. But they change from generation to generation, with basically "who is the most fuckable black woman/man right now", but since Beyonce is caramel colored everyone is catching shade, both darkskin and lightskin people for the most asinine of reasons that basically boil down to "person of this color didn't like me/cheated on me so gently caress em all."
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gfsincere posted:Racism in dating will never not be hilarisad because of the justifications people attempt. "Darkskin men will cheat on you!" "Lightskin women are all hoes!" A very disappointing moment for me was when I was with a group of people I had high opinions of talking about what the best and worst types of people to be in relationships with was. I thought it was pretty hosed up but I thought maybe I'm just not seeing where they're coming from and then one person said, "I hate dating black men."
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speaking as a Real Science Person, humans reproduce really slowly and you're not going to get significant evolution in just a few generations. If you actually wanted to implement a eugenics program you'd pick your "best" few slaves and have them knock up as many women as possible. It's also kind of a self-own to advance the argument that black slaves were selectively bred, because presumably they would be selected for being more obedient and less intelligent along with strength and endurance etc
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Aug 22, 2016 22:57
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Trump's problem is that he was maximum rear end in a top hat at the exact time the US electorate started paying attention to the election, and his polls instantly cratered everywhere as a result, and stayed cratered long past the "convention bounce" for Clinton could have been a thing. Wishy washy fake moderation would have worked weeks ago, but I think it's way too late for that to change the fundamental state of the election being "Everyone that's not a huge rear end in a top hat hates Trump, a lot."
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Aug 22, 2016 22:58
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Dexo posted:Nah. It's the Lightskin dudes from NYC who are the real savages. Will steal your girl and smile in your face while saying "no disrepect son, no disrespect" Fixed that for ya brother man.
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Pellisworth posted:speaking as a Real Science Person, humans reproduce really slowly and you're not going to get significant evolution in just a few generations. If you actually wanted to implement a eugenics program you'd pick your "best" few slaves and have them knock up as many women as possible. to be fair he's saying that the selective breeding occurred unconsciously as part of some sort of capitalistic selection of the most fit workers which is still a really bad and flawed argument with a ton of holes, but, you know, being fair and all
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Aug 22, 2016 22:59
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gfsincere posted:Nah, if there's one thing that is universal among black people in America, its these stereotypes. But they change from generation to generation, with basically "who is the most fuckable black woman/man right now", but since Beyonce is caramel colored everyone is catching shade, both darkskin and lightskin people for the most asinine of reasons that basically boil down to "person of this color didn't like me/cheated on me so gently caress em all." It's almost never been a dark skinned woman(at least as long as I've been alive) always been some caramel woman who's the it Black girl.
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Koalas March posted:This is very true. I've had the "Fast Girl" stereotype applied to me, but I've also gotten "You're not like other black girls.. you know they're loud". Also lots of comments about having "Good hair" Same poo poo in DC/that mid-atantlic area. Light skinned pretty types are slutty as hell, but somehow at the same time dark skinned ugly people are trifling and will try to trap you into raising their kids. Also, some ~*unique island insight*~ huge stigma from older folks if you're dating an islander from a different island than you. They don't get it when I try to explain no one in America but them can tell a Trini apart from a Jamaican apart from a Barbadian.
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Pellisworth posted:speaking as a Real Science Person, humans reproduce really slowly and you're not going to get significant evolution in just a few generations. If you actually wanted to implement a eugenics program you'd pick your "best" few slaves and have them knock up as many women as possible. I never said they were good at it. I said they did attempt it actively (and were poo poo at it apparently according to studies).
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I have only dated one black girl but it was long enough that I brought her to Thanksgiving and my old racist aunt was super uncomfortable. The rest of my family loved her though so at least I know most of my family is cool 
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Jesus Detroit is super segregated. There way I'm treated in black circles and white circles is completely different. It's also interesting because at the moment I'm living in a middle class ($100,000 - $200,000 houses) neighborhood that is 85% black. Which is completely different from when I was 0-14 living in a upper-class white neighborhood, or 19-24 living in the hood. I've got a lot of weird experiences from living in different environments. I am also mixed (Italian on mother's side), so sometimes people think I'm latina and I get racism there too. I've also been asked if I was Asian once. I guess I'm "ethnically ambiguous" which has it's own privileges and troubles.
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Aug 22, 2016 23:00
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Pellisworth posted:It's also kind of a self-own to advance the argument that black slaves were selectively bred, because presumably they would be selected for being more obedient and less intelligent along with strength and endurance etc As Thug Drink said, gfsincere's been pretty clear that he doesn't think black slaves were selectively bred in the purposeful and planned sense that I think you're describing.
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Aug 22, 2016 23:00
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Dexo posted:It's almost never been a dark skinned woman(at least as long as I've been alive) always been some caramel woman who's the it Black girl. Yeah I cannot think of a dark skinned black woman who holds that position in our zeitgeist. And I doubt we'll have one for another generation at least.
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Aug 22, 2016 23:01
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nutranurse posted:Same poo poo in DC/that mid-atantlic area. Light skinned pretty types are slutty as hell, but somehow at the same time dark skinned ugly people are trifling and will try to trap you into raising their kids. Also, some ~*unique island insight*~ huge stigma from older folks if you're dating an islander from a different island than you. Yall with the island wars are comical. So many Trini women said they would NEVER date a Jamaican dude because: 1) they try to trap you 2) possessive as gently caress 3) they don't want darkskin babies Meanwhile the 3 lightest people I know are all Jamacians. Ah, Brooklyn.
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Aug 22, 2016 23:01
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nutranurse posted:Yeah I cannot think of a dark skinned black woman who holds that position in our zeitgeist. And I doubt we'll have one for another generation at least. Grace Jones?
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Aug 22, 2016 23:02
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sarmhan posted:On USPOL news: So he's going to go into September without anything planned? What is he doing?
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nutranurse posted:Yeah I cannot think of a dark skinned black woman who holds that position in our zeitgeist. And I doubt we'll have one for another generation at least. Does Kerry Washington count? Wait, does she count as darkskin? Everyone has different qualifiers for it. Some people think darkskin is crispy black, others (*cough AKAs cough*) think anyone darker than a cardboard box is darkskin.
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Aug 22, 2016 23:03
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gfsincere posted:Yall with the island wars are comical. So many Trini women said they would NEVER date a Jamaican dude because: Don't date Jamaican men for real tho. If we're fobs we can be pretty bad since Jamaican masculine culture is hilariously bad.
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Aug 22, 2016 23:03
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gfsincere posted:First off, none of the people that immigration would effect believe him, but his rabidly racist supporters will...maybe. I mean, whenever something terrible he has said is pointed out to them, they respond "well you guys are just hearing it wrong", so maybe they will twist this and say he doesnt actually mean it. But then that flies in the face of their "I support Trump because he's a straight shooter". They'll rationalize it as him "playing the media" or some such, most likely. Most people who really care about immigration probably won't buy it. Also uh, this thread man. I'm not sure I want to wade back into that shitstorm for the good bits. 
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So he's going to go into September without anything planned? What is he doing? People are saying that he's ill and can't keep up the pace necessary for a presidential campaign. I'm not saying it, but I have heard people talk about it. People are saying it.
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Aug 22, 2016 23:04
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:Lemme try another rephrase to see if I can get this right. Yes it does. Literally the only person to understand what I was trying to say. Or moreso, the only person not trying to be a blatant shithead and actually attempting a discussion.
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:Grace Jones? She was the 'weird' one much the same way Lady Gaga is the 'weird' one and definitely not the It Girl. gfsincere posted:Does Kerry Washington count? Personally I wouldn't call her dark skinned. She's a bright mocha.
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gfsincere posted:Does Kerry Washington count? Given that I googled her and my immediate thought was that she was an extremely tan white lady from California, I would say no. gfsincere posted:Yes it does. Literally the only person to understand what I was trying to say. Okay, gotcha. I think you're wrong, but I'm glad we were able to drill down and come to a point of actual contention instead of just pissing on each other. gfsincere posted:Or moreso, the only person not trying to be a blatant shithead and actually attempting a discussion. I gotta be frank with you, dude. My impression of the events was that you were being extremely combative from word go. I have put unusual effort in to resolving this dispute. To some extent you were a victim of social inertia, but you were definitely not helping to de-escalate the situation. You shouldn't blame all of this on the rest of the board; turn your gaze inward and consider how you can improve your ability to have conversations about taboo poo poo like eugenics without these poo poo-storms a-brewin'. RiotGearEpsilon fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:Grace Jones? She doesn't count she's some sort of glamorous amazon from beyond the stars. Edit: Janelle Monáe is the only one that really springs to mind. She's awesome but that's sad. Even then she's not super dark skinned. Push El Burrito fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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Popular Thug Drink posted:to be fair he's saying that the selective breeding occurred unconsciously as part of some sort of capitalistic selection of the most fit workers yeah evolution is not about who's toughest and strongest, it's about who reproduces more
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gfsincere posted:Yes it does. Literally the only person to understand what I was trying to say. plenty of people understand your argument. your argument is factually incorrect
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Hey I have a thing. A planned parenthood in Wisconsin (near where my mom is from) closed over safety concerns. http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/wisconsin/2016/08/22/fox-valley-abortion-clinic-closing/89099748/ Right wing peeps accused them of lying http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/22/this-is-how-far-planned-parenthood-will-go-for-a-talking-point/ Exact location was bombed in 2012 http://www.ibtimes.com/planned-parenthood-center-bombed-wisconsin-amid-abortion-legislation-debates-432912 Welp
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nutranurse posted:Don't date Jamaican men for real tho. If we're fobs we can be pretty bad since Jamaican masculine culture is hilariously bad. Yeah but that whole "let me paint all these dudes as terrible" is no bueno, because I've had it applied to me by a Nigerian girl that said black american men are lazy and don't take care of their kids and are poor, but I made a smooth 20k more than her a year while she still lived in her parents raised by a single mother who was ditched by a Nigerian man for a white woman. Black race politics is confusing as poo poo.
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SedanChair posted:He did it! Incredible. He came up with a statement too vague and devoid of specifics to win anyone over, while also appearing wishy-washy enough to bother his bigot base.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:plenty of people understand your argument. your argument is factually incorrect nope, you still continue to misunderstand it even though I've clarified it a bunch of times. You can either drop it or continue to be a shithead about it, but I don't care either way at this juncture. Pellisworth posted:yeah evolution is not about who's toughest and strongest, it's about who reproduces more How does one reproduce whilst dead? *I know I'm just asking for some creepy as gently caress story right now*
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gfsincere posted:nope, you still continue to misunderstand it even though I've clarified it a bunch of times. You can either drop it or continue to be a shithead about it, but I don't care either way at this juncture. being mad at me doesn't make your argument factually or scientifically valid. there was not enough time, nor strong enough pressure, for slavery to alter the genetics of african-americans in any meaningful way. you might as well argue that 9/11 was an inside job accusing everyone who disagrees with you of racism or ignorance does not grow you as a person or allow you to learn from your mistakes
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nutranurse posted:Don't date Jamaican men for real tho. If we're fobs we can be pretty bad since Jamaican masculine culture is hilariously bad. lol my sister is engaged to a jamaican man, and my mom hates it and is constantly telling her stories about how they all have multiple wives and how he's just going to bury her with kids. there are also other reasons she's advising against it but jesus christ
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Every single one of you should have better things to do on a Monday afternoon. Literally 20 pages of this poo poo. smh
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nutranurse posted:She was the 'weird' one much the same way Lady Gaga is the 'weird' one and definitely not the It Girl. Yeah what's unfortunate is you have Zendaya, Tessa Thompson, Keirsey Clemons, and Candice Patton playing these iconic roles that happen to be love interests (which means the audience needs to like them/think they're fuckable) but we can't have anyone "too dark". I don't even know where to start with Viola Davis on HTGAWM. She owns her sexuality, runs a successful business, is bisexual and poo poo but she's not portrayed as desirable to the audience, which is both good and bad honestly. I think they are trying it with Michaela (Aja Naomi King) though. 
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Eifert Posting posted:Every single one of you should have better things to do on a Monday afternoon. Literally 20 pages of this poo poo. smh NOBODY loving CARES
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gfsincere posted:nope, you still continue to misunderstand it even though I've clarified it a bunch of times. You can either drop it or continue to be a shithead about it, but I don't care either way at this juncture. I like how you don't even offer the option of an honest conversation.
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Dexo posted:lol my sister is engaged jamaican man, and my mom hates it and is constantly telling her stories about how they all have multiple wives and how he's just going to bury her with kids. I mean, I've seen the rampant misogyny, but not in any way thats different from a regular rear end black dude. (not counting going to Jamaican clubs, because that poo poo in there *Obama forehead wipe*)
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I'd legitimately be interested in a thread about black complexion/nationality/decent/whatever politics, so long as eugenics aren't brought up.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:being mad at me doesn't make your argument factually or scientifically valid. there was not enough time, nor strong enough pressure, for slavery to alter the genetics of african-americans in any meaningful way. you might as well argue that 9/11 was an inside job What Thug said. Just wasn't enough time to matter. Dexo posted:NOBODY loving CARES
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Eifert Posting posted:Every single one of you should have better things to do on a Monday afternoon. Literally 20 pages of this poo poo. smh Yeah, for shame all of you!
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