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Ragequit posted:http://amomentincrime.com/ A countdown to a countdown. This is so exciting... I hope when this one ends, they reveal another countdown!
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Game development costs have skyrocketed while game purchases seem to have increased fairly linearly so you end up in a situation where you need to make a bunch of money in order to continue supporting a game post-release, and the easiest way to do that is through cosmetics. I think gambling with loot boxes isn't a perfect situation but it's probably the best way to keep it going and generates more revenue for the company that just being able to buy the skins you want outright, and prevents blizzard from having to sell game-changing content rather than just skins and emotes. I also think the gambling aspect might help diversify player interest because I only really started playing reaper when I got the El Blanco skin for him and have been having a lot of fun, but would not have probably really picked up him if I didn't get that skin. well this is my thoughts thanks.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:14
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Take it up with Sombra, not Blizzard.. Not sure what a video game company really hgas to do with any of this.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:14
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I want support, servers, and actual game content. The question is how these are funded. 1. Monthly fee's ala WOW. 2. Gated DLC content that fractures the community ala Battlefront, Titanfall, Battlefield. 3. Content accessed only through money injected into the entire game. 4. Cosmetic items accessed largely through lottery ticket purchase. Of these options, I find option four to be vastly more preferable than the rest. Which is what Overwatch is actually doing.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:17
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:No. Sombra ARG kicks into high gear, matrix symbols flow across the screen, then out of nowhere Doomfist koolaids his way through a mei icewall and shouts "screw all this nerd crap, punch people break stuff yeeeaaaaaah!" He catches a hanjo arrow, lays genji out flat, punches open a loot crate revealing all legendaries, then he shatters Reinhardt's shield in one blow all while junkrat sets off explosions in the background and widowmaker and reaper swoon.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:19
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flashman posted:Yes definitely, release a game with an appropriate amount of content for the price point, then charge for the expansion of the game. This is a nice idea. Unfortunately they released an mp only game with a very limited map selection so there is a ways to go before they should start charging for packs. lol @ "mp only" as if it's an unheard of and horrendous thing
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Aug 24, 2016 21:20
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ihanjo Renart Wilson Marcy Genju Tracker Raper Jenkrut Widamegger dvda mao rodehug fairreh mickrey majordad lucious grana zealotta cosmicjim fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Aug 24, 2016 |
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Aug 24, 2016 21:25
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i would like to play the overwatch campaign mode and figure out what the hell is going on
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Aug 24, 2016 21:26
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net cafe scandal posted:Take it up with Sombra, not Blizzard.. Not sure what a video game company really hgas to do with any of this. Thank you.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:30
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MysteriousStranger posted:I want support, servers, and actual game content. The question is how these are funded. You forgot bundling the game with the software for running a server / editing maps and letting enthusiasts take care of it for you. It has pros and cons like all of the others, of course, I just suddenly got nostalgic for the 90s when I realized it wasn't even on people's radar.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:38
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MinibarMatchman posted:lol @ "mp only" as if it's an unheard of and horrendous thing Mp only is a good thing. Lack of single player content, however, increases the expectations for amount of multiplayer content
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Aug 24, 2016 21:39
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It's easy to say "oh, it's just cosmetic!" or "skins don't really matter!" Or "its just a silly game!" Then I look at a billion dollars spent on boxes and realize that whether or not you think it's important, a lot of people do seem to care a lot about which color Tracer's rear end is. Like, a billion dollars worth. This is an important issue that affects our times. 
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Aug 24, 2016 21:42
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Well, what rear end colors do you have in mind?
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Aug 24, 2016 21:43
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if the rear end is important to you then buy the box if the rear end is not that important to you then dont buy the box who gives a poo poo what other people spend their money on
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Aug 24, 2016 21:44
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But what if I don't get the right rear end out of my assbox? I don't want to buy Ms. New Booty and get Mr. New Booty. That's hosed up.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:45
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Snazzy Frocks posted:who gives a poo poo what other people spend their money on Activision-Blizzard.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:51
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I hope they update with the new map on QP before season 2 starts so i have a chance to learn it on just QP
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Aug 24, 2016 21:52
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Fuzz posted:Reinhardt better get a Frankenstein skin for Halloween. Also Ana should get a mummy skin and Hanzo should get a Robin Hood outfit. Roadhog could get a Jason style skin with a hockey mask, and 76 could get a Thriller style getup or something. Junkrat... uh... kinda already has a bunch of Halloween skins. Maybe he'd ironically get a normal outfit, or they'd do a Leto Joker or something? Roadhog could have the Leatherface tie and rubber apron combo with a pig mask, or just a poorly fitting pig mascot outfit. I still want a skin with Ned Kelly's armor, though. Junkrat has a few opportunities I could think of: Angus Young style schoolboy outfit, tatty Guy Fawkes outfit, a Mick Taylor style 'bogan' outfit, cardboard box
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Aug 24, 2016 21:53
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Bushiz posted:Game development costs have skyrocketed while game purchases seem to have increased fairly linearly so you end up in a situation where you need to make a bunch of money in order to continue supporting a game post-release, and the easiest way to do that is through cosmetics. As someone who used to investigate/report (to the feds/authorities) fraud and money laundering for PayPal I am almost certain part of the whole "you're buying pulls at the slot machine and not specific items" decision is to prevent monetization of particular items by the end user as a fraud mitigation measure. Nobody's going to buy and open a bunch of randomized boxes to monetize stolen financials at a huge loss when they can just go hit up eve online or wow or whatever (not sure if gold sellers for wow even exist anymore) which means they aren't incurring the cost of monitoring an entire class of microtransactions. Preventing item trading doesn't do the trick since you'll just get people selling whole accounts as wrappers for single items inclusive of the cost of the game, and people will absolutely spend hundreds on a skin, E.g. CSGO. Randomizing and time/effort-gating the only source of loot means the bar for getting, say, the mercy Valkyrie skin is too high to quickly and effectively convert a stolen card into a sale since the card has to buy the game, then buy a bunch of loot boxes, then click each one and hope the skin comes up. By then it's highly likely that the central fraud monitoring rules have triggered either on blizzard's end or on the bank's end. Now you know part of why they shut down the RMAH in D3.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:55
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Alien Rope Burn posted:It's easy to say "oh, it's just cosmetic!" or "skins don't really matter!" Or "its just a silly game!" Then I look at a billion dollars spent on boxes and realize that whether or not you think it's important, a lot of people do seem to care a lot about which color Tracer's rear end is. I got Tracer's Olympic skin, but I use her punk legendary because that seems way more in line with how loving awful Tracer is.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:56
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:You forgot bundling the game with the software for running a server / editing maps and letting enthusiasts take care of it for you. I started in Doom 2 Deathmatch and Quake Deathmatch. I didn't forget it, it's just that business model is as dead as physical media now. I wish it wasn't the case but oh well.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:57
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Alien Rope Burn posted:It's easy to say "oh, it's just cosmetic!" or "skins don't really matter!" Or "its just a silly game!" Then I look at a billion dollars spent on boxes and realize that whether or not you think it's important, a lot of people do seem to care a lot about which color Tracer's rear end is. With a paltry 1.3 billion profit made on overwatch it's amazing they can afford to put out this new map only 3 months after release, thank you blizz!
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Aug 24, 2016 22:01
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Duck and Cover posted:Yeah this happened to Dota, every patch felt like a billion hats. Ah yes let's bring up the one game that actually does cosmetic stuff right and actually still does tons of balance changes and reworks to game mechanics and even map updates and point to it and say "DO WE REALLY WANT THIS??" e: though I will say that the over-the-top effects of some of the cosmetic stuff is a bit stupid and probably wrong, but "lol just hats" is stupid
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Aug 24, 2016 22:02
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cosmicjim posted:ihanjo good
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Aug 24, 2016 22:04
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Gonna need to start recording Science Wilson's rants as narrated by Smuglord.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:04
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My biggest gripe with the cosmetics, and it isn't really a big one, is why does Hanzo's have a different audio scheme. His ult looks different, his words are differnt, everything is different. Yet if I'm fireman Mei or Aztec Pharah everything is the same. They should really bring in new audio packages for the legendary skins.
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No Safe Word posted:Ah yes let's bring up the one game that actually does cosmetic stuff right and actually still does tons of balance changes and reworks to game mechanics and even map updates and point to it and say "DO WE REALLY WANT THIS??" They don't do it right, they do it tolerably. (which is a gently caress ton better than most) Path of Exiles is probably the only f2p game that I'm happy to give money to.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:07
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Duck and Cover posted:They don't do it right, they do it tolerably. Path of Exiles is probably the only f2p game that I'm happy to give money to. excuse me PoE is clearly a Pay To Win game because i bought a stack of Win Fireworks with real money. they're fireworks that make you win.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:08
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Won't someone think of the shareholders
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Kerrrrrrr posted:excuse me PoE is clearly a Pay To Win game because i bought a stack of Win Fireworks with real money. they're fireworks that make you win. Me too.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:20
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I don't see why people should even care if someone else buys a box if you don't think it's worth the money, don't buy it. it's cosmetic poo poo so you have no reason to worry about buying loot crates
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Aug 24, 2016 22:21
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Manatee Cannon posted:I don't see why people should even care if someone else buys a box Hey now. Don't say something you can't take back later, these cosmetic boxes are apparently serious loving business.
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Jastiger posted:My biggest gripe with the cosmetics, and it isn't really a big one, is why does Hanzo's have a different audio scheme. His ult looks different, his words are differnt, everything is different. Yet if I'm fireman Mei or Aztec Pharah everything is the same. They should really bring in new audio packages for the legendary skins. Widow also says something like "No one can hide from the huntress" if you use her Comtesse/Huntress skins (aka the best skins). But yes, there should be more of that. At least Junkrat should have a whole load of awful puns and jokes for his Jester and Fool skins. 
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Aug 24, 2016 22:40
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i think it is very weird for hanzo to say 'the wolf marks its prey' because if you think about it thats really gross
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Aug 24, 2016 22:41
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Snazzy Frocks posted:if you think about it thats really gross just like hanzo
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Aug 24, 2016 22:44
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The wolf pisses all over ur chances of winning the video game
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Aug 24, 2016 22:45
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Rheinhart should get a Michael Oher skin.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:58
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Panfilo posted:Rheinhart should get a Michael Oher skin. Excuse me, I think you mean Jonathan Ogden
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Aug 24, 2016 23:03
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Bacontotem posted:Gonna need to start recording Science Wilson's rants as narrated by Smuglord. I now regret asking Blizz to rename my Battlenet account away from 'Winstons', I could have had many rage-induced chats with people yelling at me to change away from the monkey, to which I could have replied - 'I Winstons'
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